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Hopefully sooner rather than later. Really keen to get rid of the Nest cams as Google cannot be trusted to support things. And with them ditching the Nest Protects I’m down with their overpriced hardware.
 
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I’m invested in Nest, so I don’t see changing. Two of the latest thermostats, a doorbell and two outdoor cameras. For the most part, they work well.
I have a Nest, works fine. Now I'm gettin notices from Goggle that in a few months it will no longer work other than as a dumb stand alone thermostat. They want me to buy a new one. Any recommendations other than Nest? I won't give google another cent.
 
Maybe this will push Ring to support HOMEKIT (or Matter?) in the future. Eventually, the Nest thermostat did, although you did have to buy a new unit.
 
A lock / doorbell combination with facial recognition would be cool. I would prefer it if it didn't require wifi to work, but it probably will.

I don't think I'll ever put a security camera inside my house. IMO they're for exterior use only.
 
How much you wanna make a bet that Apple opens up 2K or even 4K resolution to HomeKit cameras… but only if these cameras carry the Apple logo.

Then they’ll justify it with some mumbo jumbo that makes zero sense.
 
I would definitely buy an Apple branded security camera. With all its privacy features and integration with other Apple products, I think this has a very good potential to be a successful product for Apple.
 
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Hmm, I hope this isn't the case. Adding a bunch of cameras constantly watching the interior of my house, even if they are "local only" seems like overkill to know where a person is. They have so many other ways to do this - IE my Apple watch is in a room, it should detect that using BLE from homepods in each room. Same with the phone. Then you know room occupancy without a massive privacy invasion of cameras everywhere.

Yes - it doesn't work if you don't have any devices with you, but at that point it can just go based on voice recognition.
 
This is one of those markets that makes very little to no profit on the devices themselves. The profit is made on the cloud subscriptions once the users have the cheap devices.

Apple doesn’t sell products like this. Their version would be priced significantly higher than any competitor which will result in low sales. Most likely, this will just be cancelled.
 
Logi Circle & Arlo were the worst of all the HomeKit cameras, i tried as many brands i could find to buy. I do hope its better. I got rid of all the HomeKit ones and went with Unifi cameras using home bridge so i get them in the home app.
And Level for locks are the absolute worst.
 
This is one of those markets that makes very little to no profit on the devices themselves. The profit is made on the cloud subscriptions once the users have the cheap devices.

Apple doesn’t sell products like this. Their version would be priced significantly higher than any competitor which will result in low sales. Most likely, this will just be cancelled.
They make tons. Don’t be fooled, your data captured IS the actual product.
 
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A nest style device could sell quite well with seamless Apple device integration. The problem with any Apple product that's not a phone or computer is the Apple tax. Consumers won't see the value in paying a large premium for devices that already work great with their phones.

Apple could literally crush and own some categories if they didn't need such massive margins.
 
My biggest problem with Ring is that they lock out a lot of the functionality behind the subscription. Some premium ones or extra cloud storage? Fine. But some of the very basic functions of a doorbell camera shouldn’t be for a $200 device.

At least I have faith that Apple won’t do that, although the price difference will probably be 2 years worth of a Ring subscription. Lol
I don’t know if you noticed but Apple is the current king of subscription, wether you need cloud, AppleCare, or access to any media functionality, on paper it’s a good deal but if you want to compartmentalization, it’s more pricey. Rings’ no different but even then still cheaper for the most part than other subs. I tried different security providers over the years and just like how ring does it better. Currently being active on a subscription gives you unlimited warranty on my plan. The amount of outdoor cameras and batteries I’ve replaced in the last two years is unheard of but worth it I guess.
 
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Battery door bells are dumb. Only the ones that connect to existing doorbell wiring are worth having.
Unless you live in a jurisdiction where you need 10 weeks full-time to qualify to legally install a low-voltage data cable inside the walls of your own house, on the pretext that you might somehow **** it up badly enough to put harmful noise onto the phone network (even when your only connection to external networks is fibre).
 
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I just bought security camera. If apple provides one with a battery I m immediately sold. In fact 2025 was my first big year of home automation, after the first foray with Philips Hue a couple of years ago, largely thanks to Matter over Thread. The more I buy the more I feel the benefits. I own Tado raridator thermostats and they are AMAZING, an EVE Aqua, an Aqara security cam. No extra software needed for any of them, they just work with myAppleTV and HomePod mini. If Apple enters this market I m more than happy to be a customer. I only hope home automations follow suit in apple home as, right now, there’s a lot to be desired…
 
Unless you live in a jurisdiction where you need 10 weeks full-time to qualify to legally install a low-voltage data cable inside the walls of your own house, on the pretext that you might somehow **** it up badly enough to put harmful noise onto the phone network (even when your only connection to external networks is fibre).

Your situation sound quite... sub-optimal. You have my sympathies.

That said: the doorbell wiring that GioGiusi mentioned have nothing to do with data per se; they supply only power, and they're already preinstalled in practically every modern house. So you wouldn't be rewiring anything -- only tapping into the existing power supply by replacing an existing doorbell button with a different button... that also happens to have a built-in camera system. Are you sure those local regulations still apply?

(Note of irony: I'm currently in the process of building a house. We chose not to have the builder install phone lines. At all. Those weird regulations seem distinctly out of date to me.)
 
I have a Nest, works fine. Now I'm gettin notices from Goggle that in a few months it will no longer work other than as a dumb stand alone thermostat. They want me to buy a new one. Any recommendations other than Nest? I won't give google another cent.
Not sure what I would want non-Nest. The latest thermostat works great for us. We have two. One upstairs, one downstairs. Agree that Google is not the best though.
 
That said: the doorbell wiring that GioGiusi mentioned have nothing to do with data per se; they supply only power, and they're already preinstalled in practically every modern house. So you wouldn't be rewiring anything -- only tapping into the existing power supply by replacing an existing doorbell button with a different button... that also happens to have a built-in camera system. Are you sure those local regulations still apply?
No, using existing wires for a different purpose, or using ethernet over powerline (or similar techniques) doesn't require licensing, just installing new cables or electronics into a wall, floor, or ceiling.
 
No, using existing wires for a different purpose, or using ethernet over powerline (or similar techniques) doesn't require licensing, just installing new cables or electronics into a wall, floor, or ceiling.
Thanks; that's what I would have assumed -- particularly since it's not even using those wires for a different purpose. Wired doorbell cameras that use the existing doorbell wiring are using it as a power source, just like conventional doorbells.
 
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