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I noticed the mining process running when I was doing a compress using Handbrake on my base iMac Pro. The crypto mining process took up 30% of my CPU, Handbrake 70%. I was not pleased. Killing the calendar program didn't stop it, I had to kill the mining process directly to stop it. New version works fine but still it leaves me with with a very poor opinion of the company making the software.
 
I think it might be more do to with it increasing the claim rate on warranties and Apple Care.

Basically the software house makes money at Apple's eventual expense.
How would this cause an increase warranty claims? I could see it causing an increase in calls to Apple about Mac slowdown.
I noticed the mining process running when I was doing a compress using Handbrake on my base iMac Pro. The crypto mining process took up 30% of my CPU, Handbrake 70%. I was not pleased. Killing the calendar program didn't stop it, I had to kill the mining process directly to stop it. New version works fine but still it leaves me with with a very poor opinion of the company making the software.
I'm surprised you kept the app. I would have deleted it permanently out of distrust.
 
Rule 2.4.2. “unnecessary strain on device resources” ?
By acknowledging such alternative payment after being made conscious of its strain, it seems the user OK’d it.
So who is Apple to determine what strain is necessary and what not ?
 
OMG I just figured out why Windoze has been so fsking slow and resource hogging all these years - they were just miles ahead of their time and mining bitcoin the whole time.
 
Rule 2.4.2. “unnecessary strain on device resources” ? Because ? Mining has a negative effect on throttling ?
By acknowledging such alternative payment when conscious on its strain, it seems the user OK’d it.
So who is Apple to determine what strain is necessary and what not ?
From what I read yesterday, this was occurring in the background, even when users did not approve.
 
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Apple doesnt want thei customers’ devices being used as mining devices or even the IDEA that it is OK. Shocked as you may be, this is peanuts for Apple. There are situations they ACTUALLY look out for their customers, even if it’s self serving in the end.

Why can't you pay with processing power? Nothing wrong with that business model if they are honest and transparent. Apple dont get their 30%? Thats why?

Devices running this crypto mining code are running harder, which will reduce their life time, which will mean more will be serviced under warranty, or in the UK and Australia under consumer rights laws. Batteries will last for shorter time, making customers unhappy with their purchases.

And I think accepting different financial advantages instead of in-app purchases does indeed go against the App Store rules. The first poster mentioned that in a cynical way (greedy Apple wanting their 30%), but that's the way it works.
 
Why can't you pay with processing power? Nothing wrong with that business model if they are honest and transparent. Apple dont get their 30%? Thats why?
 
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Apple was just jealous that they didn't think of this first.
Coming soon, free iPhones with built-in always on bit-mining iOS instead of an advertising iOS.
That's plain stupid.
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They should have banned the developer for this kind of crap.
Give them a special version of Xcode that creates bitcoin for Apple and compiles at 10% of the normal speed. And any app submissions will be checked for energy usage for a whole month, especially the next one that is submitted.
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Why can't you pay with processing power? Nothing wrong with that business model if they are honest and transparent. Apple dont get their 30%? Thats why?
They were neither honest nor transparent. There are at least three violations of the App Store rules: The app has excessive power usage. The app does things that it isn't supposed to do because it doesn't benefit the user. The app uses alternative ways for payment that avoid the App Store.
 
So it took 24hr for those smart guys in Apple to determine which clause in the guideline shall they cite to pull this app.

Time to simplify your instrument of laws, Apple.
 
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I know everyone is bashing on this company, but I could envision a non-profit asking people to support their cause a la folding@home by “mining for a cause!” or something.

RedCrossCoin, MSFCoin, March of eDimes, etc.
 
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From what I read yesterday, this was occurring in the background, even when users did not approve.

I thought I read yesterday that it only mined if you agreed to it and in doing so got access to pro features. It sounded like turning the pro features off turned the mining off.
 
I know everyone is bashing on this company, but I could envision a non-profit asking people to support their cause a la folding@home by “mining for a cause!” or something.

RedCrossCoin, MSFCoin, March of eDimes, etc.

Asking for donations in an app is against App Store guidelines. No matter how you do it.

And myself, I consider that whole crypto ******** to be highly unethical, because it is a massive destruction of natural resources, with the only purpose to re-distribute wealth. So a charity would very much be badly advised if you use crypto mining.
 
But but according to the last article Apple knew about it but was letting it stay (with zero evidence that Apple was actually aware of it).
 
I thought I read yesterday that it only mined if you agreed to it and in doing so got access to pro features. It sounded like turning the pro features off turned the mining off.
From the article yesterday:
Qbix founder Gregory Magarshak told Ars Technica that the currency miner's rollout had been complicated by bugs that prevented it from working as intended, with the miner running continuously even when not approved by the user.
 
I'm glad that Apple closed this loophole and I hope they close it permanently. This was a Pandora Box that was being opened.

Paying through mining is a concept that while reasonable on hypothesis is awful on a practical level even considering full disclosure.

Mining on common hardware, particularly on the underpowered hardware Apple typically sells, is extremely inefficient and the user ends paying a lifelong rent to the developer who just receives a constant stream of cash. Mining is not just something that slows down your computer and bothers you a little. It would in time considerably cost you on energy costs and that is without even considering the reduced hardware life.

If this would continue we would have in time a stream of "free" and probably mostly useless apps to profit from users ignorance.
 
I am in favour of this business model I just wanna be notified about its existence when I buy an app. Crypto and blockchain are the future so we gotta be prepared.
 
So it took 24hr for those smart guys in Apple to determine which clause in the guideline shall they cite to pull this app.

Time to simplify your instrument of laws, Apple.
Probably not.

They probably wanted to run every thing by the legal team before speaking to the public. Some people on here must not have worked at a corporation before...The standard procedure is to get the necessary approvals from the various departments before making a statements so the whole company is on the same page.
 
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I noticed the mining process running when I was doing a compress using Handbrake on my base iMac Pro. The crypto mining process took up 30% of my CPU, Handbrake 70%. I was not pleased. Killing the calendar program didn't stop it, I had to kill the mining process directly to stop it. New version works fine but still it leaves me with with a very poor opinion of the company making the software.
lol didn't you have to enable the mining and not pay the 17.99 for it to do this?
 
Who would have gained from the mining? The developer? If so, then that is a terrible, insidious way of abusing innocent, unknowing users of your software.
 
This is cancer. Is there a way to completely block an app from accessing the Internet? I can block an app from using cellular data, but I don't think there's a way to block an app from using WiFi data.

Radio Slience and Little Snitch are two of the more popular apps for blocking internet access for apps.
 
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I know everyone is bashing on this company, but I could envision a non-profit asking people to support their cause a la folding@home by “mining for a cause!” or something.

RedCrossCoin, MSFCoin, March of eDimes, etc.

That's all fine, but you just can't do it through the AppStore or MacApp Store with Apple.

Sometimes the walled garden has major disadvantages. At least (for now) Apple still lets you install and run Apps that are not from the AppStore on your Mac.
 
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