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Apple Disabling Support for Intel Atom Processor in Latest 10.6.2 Build?
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It's based on my experience as well as others personal experiences with Macs. From aesthetics to performance they handle themselves well. I'm not debating conking out in a physical sense, due to overuse or anything, because any computer will eventually do that. Microsoft's OS, the main thing they are known for, is a joke. Sorry but that's something that everyone knows. It's not like I'm making up some new theory that no one has heard of before. If Windows is beating out Mac as far as OS revenue it's solely because Mac is not going to bow and make their OS available for real PC use cause there isn't any pressure to. Why because Macs OS is better. Macs are quality all around. I don't hear any complaints from those who own macs . . I rarely hear anyone complain and give their Mac back.
Home users??? Are you serious? You actually think that Apple is leading the home user market? Hate you break the bubble for you, most people use PCs.
It has been noted that they are razor thin in some cases. Its tough to see how they can make money on a $350 netbook in the retail chain. Apple is used to 30%+ margins so 5% is not a business they want, I guess.
What's true about it?
Absolutely nothing. Should Apple go into the $400 or less netbook market? No, I don't think so, but I think that solely because Apple wouldn't have any where near the profit margin on each system sold, and so investors wouldn't be appreciative. If they did enter that market though, they would sell *a lot* more systems, and that means a larger user base, understand?
Could they do a $600 netbook? Probably, but once again, profit margins would still be low compared to what their making on the likes of the MB and MBPs. I think it would be beneficial for them to do it.
To be honest, the only ones I see opposing it are the Apple "elitists", the ones who you can occasionally see mocking even the likes of the MacBook since it's "only" $1000, since they want to believe that Apple is this high-priced status symbol.
But no matter what your reality distortion field may lead you to believe, the netbook market is huge, and in line for much greater growth than the standard laptop market, Apple's systems included. Fans can sing all the want about the increased number of systems sold by Apple, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the number of netbooks being sold each year.
That's honestly a problem of perception, made much much worse by Vista (even though Vista helped in lot of areas like usability and security).
You should give 7 a try.
Have you actually used Win 7? I have yet to run into an issue with it, the same cannot be said about SL, I've gone back to leopard while everyone completes the beta testing, maybe by 10.6.4
All you need to do is look in the forums here, you will see plenty of people complaining. Just go to the iMac forum, seems there is a number of issues effecting it.
No OS or system is perfect, for one 1st gen apple products tend to have issues, and frankly SL should be been tested more. The long beta release of win 7 worked for M$ this time.
Apple should focus on fixing 10.6.1's dog like performance before they put time and effort into Hacintoshes.
My iMac was perfect on 10.6.0 and like most Apple updates now it's a minefield.
For a company that has such a limited hardware lineup you'd think that updates would be a relatively easy thing not to mess up, but no.
My iMac was perfect on 10.6.0 and like most Apple updates now it's a minefield.
For a company that has such a limited hardware lineup you'd think that updates would be a relatively easy thing not to mess up, but no.
The way I read his post regarding Apple and Netbooks, made it sound like this:
"If Apple doesn't think the netbook market is worth going into, then netbooks must not matter."
Perhaps I'm mistaken (or maybe it's just because I don't drink the Apple coolaid - a little too sweet for my tastes
), but that's how it came across.
I wonder what it is on this little bugger.
Anyways, disabling Atom support is something rather drastic. It's Intel x86/64. It's not PowerPC or AMD. You have to narrow it down to a specific processor line from Intel. What's next? You're only allowed to use the processors that your Hardware ID shipped with?
Yes but I imagine that you are the exception to the rule in terms of the hackintosh scene - I just can't believe that the majority of them actually purchase a copy of OS X.
Good. Hackintosh is a blight. Everyone I know who has/uses it has a pirate copy. I wouldn't be so bothered if they weren't goddamn rubber-necking looky-loos who have no interest in supporting the platform in any manner and are just looking for a "free" toy to play with, and actually bought a copy. Oh, and then they ask me for a copy of iLife. ***** that. You buy a copy, fine, do whatever. But they're setting up an entire infrastructure/industry around stealing software, then undermining Apple's wishes that money not be stolen out of their pockets, and then complain that Apple should really just open it up to the whole PC-luvin' world. That eternal sense of unjustified entitlement.
It's like, you keep breaking into my house and stealing my stuff, so I put up an electric fence, guard dogs, etc, but you break through those, pretending all the while that it's okay if you do because of some imaginary rationalization you've bome up with, and all the while it's my fault because it wouldn't be a problem if I just left my door open so you could help yourself, because you know better about how I should handle my own stuff than I do.
What is Apple supposed to do? Say, oh, okay, it's alright if you use it because you claim that you bought a copy, but without any method of proving so, or any process to check these pirates, any way of separating the pirates from the people who claim not to be. Of course not. Apple knows that it belongs on their hardware.
It's like, you keep breaking into my house and stealing my stuff, so I put up an electric fence, guard dogs, etc, but you break through those, pretending all the while that it's okay if you do because of some imaginary rationalization you've bome up with, and all the while it's my fault because it wouldn't be a problem if I just left my door open so you could help yourself, because you know better about how I should handle my own stuff than I do.
What is Apple supposed to do? Say, oh, okay, it's alright if you use it because you claim that you bought a copy, but without any method of proving so, or any process to check these pirates, any way of separating the pirates from the people who claim not to be. Of course not. Apple knows that it belongs on their hardware.
"Most people" is a general term that it does not imply home users.
Most people use computers just to do the work they need to do on their jobs. If an enterprise requires its employees to use Windows software to access the Windows System on it... they will use Windows. And if they need to work from their homes, they will buy a Windows machine. It is not a home market, it is just what they need to work, and it is an extension of their works. Most people, after they finish their work, do not touch the computers anymore.
And, since Apple has sell a lot of computers, and it is reaching 10% market share, and it is obvious that Corporate America is still Windows world, pre press and publishing have not significantly work,where do you think Apple is selling? Individuals and home users.
In fact, in the 80's there was a slogan: Companies buy IBM [PC], people buy Apple [Mac].
Ethically wrong, I don't think so but I could be wrong in my thinking.
If you sell it I could see that being illegal. But for personal use, I see no issues. But I am sure others do.
It's funny, but I think in the long run Vista was a good thing - it helped Microsoft see a lot of areas where they made mistakes, and it also bought time for manufacturers and developers to write drivers and software that worked properly with it. Thus, by the time Windows 7 came out, you had a lot greater support than what otherwise would have been present.That's honestly a problem of perception, made much much worse by Vista (even though Vista helped in lot of areas like usability and security).
You should give 7 a try.
Neat isn't it? I have an Asus 1008ha on the way to play with. At these prices, anyone can afford a computer to surf/email/word process and those of us who can afford it can have a few toys. I personally like the netbook segment because I can buy a cheap portable and not *freak out* if it breaks. I can easily afford to upgrade it every year without having to worry too much about resale value.I wonder what it is on thislittle bugger.
Anyways, disabling Atom support is something rather drastic. It's Intel x86/64. It's not PowerPC or AMD. You have to narrow it down to a specific processor line from Intel. What's next? You're only allowed to use the processors that your Hardware ID shipped with?
That's honestly a problem of perception, made much much worse by Vista (even though Vista helped in lot of areas like usability and security).
You should give 7 a try.
True, haven't tried it. Maybe I will just to see what's going on but I am content with my Leopard.
Long time Linux/Unix user here... I tried OS7 on a performa back in mid 90's and hated it. I used windows at home from the early days and gave it up at XP and switched to Linux. I am also an IT person, I get really tired of dealing with windows issues at work, then to turn around and deal with them at home just sucked.
I decided to try OSX (Leopard) on my PC at home. I ran it 3 months and really liked the BSD underpinnings. So now I own a 08 MP, 2 MB's and 3 iPhones. My point is the Hackintosh community is what gave me an opportunity to really try OSX out and see if I liked it before buying. Would have NEVER bought a Mac otherwise... and would still be running a linux distro dual booting to some form of windows for games. Instead I liked it and bought Apple products to run the real thing hassle free for upgrades etc... Apple should not kill anything Hackintosh except Pystar, but then again the OSX86 community will find a way around it regardless.
I decided to try OSX (Leopard) on my PC at home. I ran it 3 months and really liked the BSD underpinnings. So now I own a 08 MP, 2 MB's and 3 iPhones. My point is the Hackintosh community is what gave me an opportunity to really try OSX out and see if I liked it before buying. Would have NEVER bought a Mac otherwise... and would still be running a linux distro dual booting to some form of windows for games. Instead I liked it and bought Apple products to run the real thing hassle free for upgrades etc... Apple should not kill anything Hackintosh except Pystar, but then again the OSX86 community will find a way around it regardless.
ION based nettops have caught my eye recently. The ION LE supposedly only supports DirectX 9 but you can hack the drivers to force DirectX 10 support and increase performance. $199 for a tiny, quiet HTPC with the ION LE for playback support is a good deal. Though Windows XP not so much.
I keep up with the Atom based hardware market but I don't have much of a need right now. Maybe if I try to replace my brother's iMac G4 with something cheap.
It has sold out several times already. It's quiet the popular item with ION LE at that price.
Apple would not even have to go that far to disable the hackintosh community. They could simply remove support for any DESKTOP-GRADE CPU. Everything in Apple's product line is either Mobile-grade or server-grade. I don't know about others, but desktop-grade parts and upgradeability is the primary reason I built a Hackintosh.
And if Apple can flip a switch to turn off Atom CPUs, I don't see any reason why they could not flip a switch for the subset of desktop CPUs. That's why this news is so earth-shattering for the OSX86 community.
-Clive
Wow, guess my friends and I share the lack of morals and share the same sense of entitlement, thank God....
Little nitpick, lest you be accused of revisionist history: PA Semi's primary product line prior to being absorbed into Apple was low-power PowerPC-derived embedded processors, not ARM.
This is by no means intended to suggest that Apple was or is seriously considering switching back to PPC any time soon. Of course, their primary interest was probably acquiring the talent pool of engineers experienced in low-power processor design in general, not in their recent track record of working with a specific architecture.
Apple makes software for the hardware they use, if they do not use Atom Processors (or rather no longer plan to) they don't NEED to support, it's that simple. Its not rather drastic, its just a waste for Apple to support something they aren't using.
If its a simple drop of support than a modified kernel will probably be required for hack's to work, if the new kernel is making calls for specific attributes that the Atom chip doesn't have, well.....just dont update.