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Apple Disabling Support for Intel Atom Processor in Latest 10.6.2 Build?

hashholly said:
Apple makes software for the hardware they use, if they do not use Atom Processors (or rather no longer plan to) they don't NEED to support, it's that simple. Its not rather drastic, its just a waste for Apple to support something they aren't using.

If its a simple drop of support than a modified kernel will probably be required for hack's to work, if the new kernel is making calls for specific attributes that the Atom chip doesn't have, well.....just dont update.
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The drastic part is actually going out of their way to disable its use in OSX. They don't currently support and have never supported Atom CPUs but they do currently work with OSX.
 
macduke said:
I'm getting so sick and tired of people saying that using software that you purchased is piracy. I can do what I want! Get off my back.
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You have a license to use it, but it is not yours. You have to use it within the rights of your license. Sure, you can be all pissed off and bent out of shape that you're not 'allowed' to use it in the way you like, but you don't get to ride the high horse on this one. Apple sells OS X to be used within the boundaries of its license agreement.

If you want to run it on a Netbook then just be prepared for the occasional surprise. As long as you're okay with that, the experience should be enjoyable. I like to jailbreak my phone, but I'm not going to rant here about how Apple is protecting its platform, thus causing me to spend more time keeping it jailbroken.
 
batchtaster said:
Good. Hackintosh is a blight. Everyone I know who has/uses it has a pirate copy. I wouldn't be so bothered if they weren't goddamn rubber-necking looky-loos who have no interest in supporting the platform in any manner and are just looking for a "free" toy to play with, and actually bought a copy. Oh, and then they ask me for a copy of iLife. ***** that. You buy a copy, fine, do whatever. But they're setting up an entire infrastructure/industry around stealing software, then undermining Apple's wishes that money not be stolen out of their pockets, and then complain that Apple should really just open it up to the whole PC-luvin' world. That eternal sense of unjustified entitlement.

It's like, you keep breaking into my house and stealing my stuff, so I put up an electric fence, guard dogs, etc, but you break through those, pretending all the while that it's okay if you do because of some imaginary rationalization you've bome up with, and all the while it's my fault because it wouldn't be a problem if I just left my door open so you could help yourself, because you know better about how I should handle my own stuff than I do.

What is Apple supposed to do? Say, oh, okay, it's alright if you use it because you claim that you bought a copy, but without any method of proving so, or any process to check these pirates, any way of separating the pirates from the people who claim not to be. Of course not. Apple knows that it belongs on their hardware.
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This. While Hackintoshing in itself is a grey area, the biggest problem is people do not buy OSX to hackintosh, they end up just downloading a torrent, and even if Apple opened up support to all PC's these same people would still illegal acquire OSX.
 
flopticalcube said:
Norway is not part of the EU. The EU does have its own currency and laws and a parliament to create them although it is a fairly weak and ineffectual establishment.
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No, Norway is not part of the Eropean Union (EU). But it is part of Europe. In fact, that's the point. Saying something is legal or illegal in Europe is very complicated.
 
batchtaster said:
Never mind CPU-typing, they could just go straight to switching on Intel's hardware DRM.
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flopticalcube said:
The drastic part is actually going out of their way to disable its use in OSX. They don't currently support and have never supported Atom CPUs but they do currently work with OSX.
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This is what I was hinting at. I'm surprised that no one else brought it up. That or realized it...

Bafflefish said:
The i5 and i7 used in the new 27" iMac is a "desktop-grade" processor ;)
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LGA 775, dead socket walking, and LGA 1156 this time around.
 
bruinsrme said:
Ethically wrong, I don't think so but I could be wrong in my thinking.

If you sell it I could see that being illegal. But for personal use, I see no issues. But I am sure others do.
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Again, sadly no. If you grow poppies in your backyard, just for for "home heroin consumption" is still illegal. No matter how hard you try to justify it.
 
batchtaster said:
Good. Hackintosh is a blight...
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I guess I can't speak for "most" hackintosh users, but all the prominent members of the community implore the rest of the community to purchase an authentic copy for every hackintosh they build.

The spirit behind the community is not to undermine Apple, but to offer alternatives to users who have different performance needs than the hardware that Apple offers.

A latent function of the project is to show how well OS X can actually run on third-party hardware. The results are stunning, and make a strong case for the licensing of OS X to third party manufacturers. Whether that model is a fit for Apple is for Apple to decide.

Last on the minds of most of the community is getting OS X for free.

Before you blanket us with blame, you should extend your hatred of pirates to Mac users who pirate iLife and OS X. They exist.

-Clive
 
Clive At Five said:
The spirit behind the community is not to undermine Apple, but to offer alternatives to users who have different performance needs than the hardware that Apple offers.
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Spirit or not, that is not your place, or your right.

I'm not entitled to come into your house and sell off some of your stuff just by cutting you in on it afterwards, and without your consent. It's not my crap to be doing anything with.

Neither is Mac OS X yours.
 
flopticalcube said:
No really. The EU is a legal entity, Europe is a geographic one. Its very simple really.
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I understand the differences. But please bear in mind I reply a comment that says EULAs were not binding in Europe. And that's not true, since Europe implies a continent with many different and complex laws.
 
DavidSan said:
Again, sadly no. If you grow poppies in your backyard, just for for "home heroin consumption" is still illegal. No matter how hard you try to justify it.
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So you are comparing illegal drugs to a piece of software?

I wonder if there are any stats on how many people have overdosed from running OSX on netbooks.
 
flopticalcube said:
The drastic part is actually going out of their way to disable its use in OSX. They don't currently support and have never supported Atom CPUs but they do currently work with OSX.
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It all comes down to if support for the chip has been disabled specifically or if the new kernel is trying to access specific features/attributes of the CPU that the Atom just doesn't have.
 
DavidSan said:
No, Norway is not part of the Eropean Union (EU). But it is part of Europe. In fact, that's the point. Saying something is legal or illegal in Europe is very complicated.
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You really really do not understand the concept the EU do you? Try not to confuse continents and countries. Think of Normay as Mexico of the North American continent ;)
 
Clive At Five said:
I guess I can't speak for "most" hackintosh users, but all the prominent members of the community implore the rest of the community to purchase an authentic copy for every hackintosh they build.

The spirit behind the community is not to undermine Apple, but to offer alternatives to users who have different performance needs than the hardware that Apple offers.

A latent function of the project is to show how well OS X can actually run on third-party hardware. The results are stunning, and make a strong case for the licensing of OS X to third party manufacturers. Whether that model is a fit for Apple is for Apple to decide.

Last on the minds of most of the community is getting OS X for free.

Before you blanket us with blame, you should extend your hatred of pirates to Mac users who pirate iLife and OS X. They exist.

-Clive
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While this may be the intentions of the "powers that be" of the OSX community, im pretty confident if you were to poll the OSX86 you would find most do not buy OSX but pirate it.
 
hashholly said:
It all comes down to if support for the chip has been disabled specifically or if the new kernel is trying to access specific features/attributes of the CPU that the Atom just doesn't have.
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I'd like to know the specifics about this as well.

Though we do have support going back to the Core Solo and GMA 950. Even further back to the Pentium 4/D and GMA 900 for the original kit. Atom does have quite the feature set over that older hardware.
 
This is going to sound really ignorant of me (because I neither own a PC nor have I ever installed OS X on a PC, ie. constuct a hackintosh)

Exactly how easy is this to do?

Does it require a 3rd party software tool?

Do you just insert the Snow Leopard/Leopard DVD and GO?

Is the process easy enough for a caveman to do it?

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I know it sounds dumb of me to ask this -- I want answers, not some link to a hackintosh 1-2-3 site. Thanks!
 
Eidorian said:
I'd like to know the specifics about this as well.

Though we do have support going back to the Core Solo and GMA 950. Even further back to the Pentium 4/D and GMA 900 for the original kit. Atom does have quite the feature set over that older hardware.
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I guess the first question i would pose is how do the Pentium 4/D, core Solo, Core Duo, and Atom differ?
 
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