fisherking
macrumors G5
i love my 12" macbook, really. but the air is only slightly bigger, and slightly heavier. i travelled everywhere with a 13" macbook pro; the air kills that in terms of weight & size. you'd be fine with an air.
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Apple Discontinues 12-Inch MacBook
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i love my 12" macbook, really. but the air is only slightly bigger, and slightly heavier. i travelled everywhere with a 13" macbook pro; the air kills that in terms of weight & size. you'd be fine with an air.
mrmister
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"i love my 12" macbook, really. but the air is only slightly bigger, and slightly heavier. i travelled everywhere with a 13" macbook pro; the air kills that in terms of weight & size. you'd be fine with an air."
Some of us who have used Apple products for decades use them because we're looking for exactly the right tool for what we need.
"You'd be fine" is ****** design. Frankly, if the bar is "you'd be fine", get a Windows laptop.
[doublepost=1562706885][/doublepost]Also, since it keeps coming up—it is fully 30% heavier. It is in no way slightly heavier.
Some of us who have used Apple products for decades use them because we're looking for exactly the right tool for what we need.
"You'd be fine" is ****** design. Frankly, if the bar is "you'd be fine", get a Windows laptop.
[doublepost=1562706885][/doublepost]Also, since it keeps coming up—it is fully 30% heavier. It is in no way slightly heavier.
It’s the weight. The MacBook Air weighs more than the 12” MacBook and iPad mini combined. With Sidecar, it’s possible to have a 2-display setup that weighs less in a laptop bag than Apple’s lightest notebook currently for sale.
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Almost 38% heavier. As I’ve pointed out, you can carry a 12” MacBook and an iPad mini and still be carrying around less weight than the MacBook Air.
petvas
macrumors 603
When Apple revived the MacBook Air series, many people couldn't find a place for it, mainly because of the overlapping with the MacBook and the MacBook Pro. Now, with the 12" MacBook gone, Apple's line up makes sense, even if some people here don't like it. The MacBook Air is portable enough and I guess Apple believes that if you want an even more portable device, you should probably be getting an iPad..I personally believe that anything smaller than 13" is too small for me.
12" model have done me well for portability & travel
My 2015 MacBook remains in daily use and great for working on a train or using at a meeting
I tried an iPad for a while but found my usage better suited to a laptop with a keyboard.
I still have my original mac, a 2002 12" Powerbook - which stillworks, unlike the 2007 MBA which replaced it - batteries swelled up and buckled the keyboard, so now an impressing sculpture. However, that served me very well too so I'm ok with 13" screens.
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Trusteft
macrumors 65816
I would like to see a future Macbook without fans and at least 3 ports.
Hieveryone
macrumors 603
Why Apple???
I just feel like they introduced it, then cut it.
They should give it a chance rather than just bailing. It's a great machine IMO.
There are people out there who want a light computer that is so thin and portable with great battery life.
I recently bought one as a gift and it was perfect for their needs!!!!!!!!!!
I just feel like they introduced it, then cut it.
They should give it a chance rather than just bailing. It's a great machine IMO.
There are people out there who want a light computer that is so thin and portable with great battery life.
I recently bought one as a gift and it was perfect for their needs!!!!!!!!!!
[doublepost=1562709751][/doublepost]Agree totally -- updated MB's would have been perfect for my wife and me. Disappointing news indeed.
People said the same thing about the original MacBook Air, which lacked the SuperDrive, extra ports, and FireWire that were available in the MacBook that weighed “only” 4 lbs.
fisherking
macrumors G5
and your source for this? because there are so many possible reasons for why apple (or any corporation) does what it does, but guessing is just... guessing.
i hate when apple abandons things i love (the 12" macbook, the iphone SE), but.. that's life. so the choice is to adapt, keep what you have... or move on. what else is there to do?
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I feel like this one is different. My reasons being that Mac Mini was outdated tech for the longest time and they never kill off the line, but for some reason they did it to the MacBook out of no where. Maybe they really don't think they need the MacBook line.
Saturn007
macrumors 68000
"Is there that language difference between US & UK English?"
Yes. Collective nouns, such as organizations, typically take the plural in U.K. English whereas U.S. uses the singular.
Hence, those in the U.S. would say
whereas those in the U.K. or former colonies would say
Those in the former colonies would tell others,
whereas elsewhere they'd say,
Here's one source that explains how the usage varies in U.K. English, although they assert that both plural and singular are used.
"Collective nouns
https://learningenglish.voanews.com...ween-britsh-and-american-english/3063743.html
Here's another example. Someone in Cupertino would say,
"Apple is a great company."
Whereas everywhere else, people would say
There are lots of other differences, too. Thanks to Noah Webster, who wanted an American English, spellings differ across the pond, that is, in the U.S. (honor vs. honour, e.g.).
For vocabulary differences, see
https://www.boredpanda.com/british-american-english-differences-language/
Yes. Collective nouns, such as organizations, typically take the plural in U.K. English whereas U.S. uses the singular.
Hence, those in the U.S. would say
"The gaggle of geese is on the pond"
whereas those in the U.K. or former colonies would say
"The gaggle of geese are on the pond".
Those in the former colonies would tell others,
"Manchester United is doing well"
whereas elsewhere they'd say,
"Manchester United are doing well".
For more on this, see https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=877
Here's one source that explains how the usage varies in U.K. English, although they assert that both plural and singular are used.
"Collective nouns
There are a few grammatical differences between the two varieties of English. Let’s start with collective nouns. We use collective nouns to refer to a group of individuals.
In American English, collective nouns are singular. For example, staff refers to a group of employees; band refers to a group of musicians; team refers to a group of athletes. Americans would say, “The band is good.”
But in British English, collective nouns can be singular or plural. You might hear someone from Britain say, “The team are playing tonight” or “The team is playing tonight.”"
In American English, collective nouns are singular. For example, staff refers to a group of employees; band refers to a group of musicians; team refers to a group of athletes. Americans would say, “The band is good.”
But in British English, collective nouns can be singular or plural. You might hear someone from Britain say, “The team are playing tonight” or “The team is playing tonight.”"
https://learningenglish.voanews.com...ween-britsh-and-american-english/3063743.html
Here's another example. Someone in Cupertino would say,
"Apple is a great company."
"Apple used to be a great company." (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
There are lots of other differences, too. Thanks to Noah Webster, who wanted an American English, spellings differ across the pond, that is, in the U.S. (honor vs. honour, e.g.).
For vocabulary differences, see
https://www.boredpanda.com/british-american-english-differences-language/
Clix Pix
macrumors Core
I am sad about this news..... I love my maxed-out 2017 12” MacBook, which is a perfect traveling companion, especially when paired with an iPad Mini, and for me there is just something so elegant about this little lightweight machine which does all I ask of her beautifully and uncomplainingly......
I think 1 reason, bad management from Apple leaders! Of course low sale if they don't update it! People was waiting new version of it! They should drop MacBook Air" not MacBook 12". Now Apple don't have ultra light laptop, only MacBook Air 13" and MacBook Pro 13".
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Butterfly keyboard was developed because MB12 is so thin. I suppose Apple's return to bigger scissor keyboard may preclude Apple from using it in MB12. But of cause bigger issue is Intel's inability to make suitable gen 9 processor for MB12. I hope Apple will return to this size in a year or two.
Because they are idiots! They don't anymore know and care what customers want! All what they do is maximize their profits and own bonus!
Hieveryone
macrumors 603
I feel like they’re doing TOO much.
Like let the market take its time.
I think discontinuing the 12” is premature.
They did some updates I think it could be a winner and a staple of their lineup.
bambooshots
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It appears they also disagree with those that say the best phone form factor is a 4” iPhone 5/SE.
That kind of logic cuts both ways.
LizKat
macrumors 604
Yah I was maybe a year down the road from similar plan of action, being fond of the MB spec in general for me at this point in my life. I like to have two machines on hand that can handle an OS upgrade but I wasn't going to buy two 2017 MBs off the refurb shelf now since I have a 2009 MB and a mid-2012 MBP still hanging in there.
I had figured wait on the MB refresh if possible and then when those landed in refurb I would get 2 of them, maybe one with less storage. So now I really am rather disappointed.
Maybe I'll get one 2017 MB refurb to replace my spare the 2009 machine (still on El Cap), so my spare will at least have a newer OS, and keep an eye on the MBA line for when the mid-2012 tank finally gives it up. It's more what I'm used to anyway, having the spare be a somewhat older machine. Easier on the budget than springing for twins --even refurbs-- every five or six years.
Well it's probably a good move for Apple but I have to work now not to take the demise of the MB personally.... I was fond of the SE iPhone too! 😀
tegranjeet
macrumors regular
Such a bummer. I scored a deal on a maxed out 2017. It is plenty powerful for many many tasks. Xcode, web development, screen sharing my iMac Pro, and of course all the other necessary tasks, mail, music, browsing, etc. Haven't seen a hiccup yet, and I am running Catalina.
Instead of discontinuing it, they could have offered a 2019 model with the same specs, just with the latest generation butterfly keyboard. Another article published today says the new Airs and Pros are getting the latest keyboards. This MacBook was the product that introduced the damn keyboard. It's a shame it doesn't get to see the latest and greatest before it's demise.
Either way, I love the portability and silence of this machine. 2 pounds!? So light and small I can hardly tell it's there. Sorry, but the MacBook Air weighs 38% more, that is not at all insignificant. I do wish it had two Thunderbolt ports like the new Airs. That is my only gripe about the device. Hoping for a future comeback.
Instead of discontinuing it, they could have offered a 2019 model with the same specs, just with the latest generation butterfly keyboard. Another article published today says the new Airs and Pros are getting the latest keyboards. This MacBook was the product that introduced the damn keyboard. It's a shame it doesn't get to see the latest and greatest before it's demise.
Either way, I love the portability and silence of this machine. 2 pounds!? So light and small I can hardly tell it's there. Sorry, but the MacBook Air weighs 38% more, that is not at all insignificant. I do wish it had two Thunderbolt ports like the new Airs. That is my only gripe about the device. Hoping for a future comeback.
Hieveryone
macrumors 603
I recenelty got a MacBook at a great price as a gift and it's great for us. No regrets. I think I paid around 880 with tax and shipping (I got it expedited)
It's a nice machine.
The 12" 2017 MacBook is my favorite apple product along with the 11" iPad Pro. This makes me sad. I hope they change their mind about this later on...