Apple Donating Money to Preserve Amazon Rainforests Following Devastating Fires

[G4DPII]

It consumes carbon dioxide. It does not consume 20% of the world's oxygen.
Sadly the ocean is becoming so polluted that it's very worrying that 80% of our oxygen comes from the sea especially with Fukushima still leaking its radioactivity into the beautiful ocean.
People need to stop being so greedy and start appreciate this beautiful planet.

Thinking that plants only consume CO2 is wrong. They also comsume O2. As a tree gets older is consumes less and less CO2, until at some point - this varies depending on species - they start to consume more O2 than they produce. A Very mature woodland does not produce much in terms of net O2.

 

[theapplehead]

It's a million more than nothing.

And 5 million is 4 million more than 1 million.

 

[C DM]

And 5 million is 4 million more than 1 million.

Sure is.

 

[Gasu E.]

Proof? Show us the proof. Unless you're pro-logging?

He's actually correct. Through photosynthesis, the Amazon products oxygen in an amount equal to a significant portion of atmospheric oxygen. But, as with any steady-state biosystem, that same amount of oxygen is then consumed during respiration processes that take place within the Amazon itself. If it weren't, the forest would actually be getting larger, as biomass accumulates to account for the unconsumed glucose that would accompany the unconsumed oxygen created during photosynthesis.

Plants themselves actually consume a good chunk of the glucose and oxygen they themselves produce, in order to effect plant growth, and flower and seed creation. But the largest consumer of oxygen via respiration within the forest would be decomposition processes, which are mainly caused by microbes. Insects would be a large consumer of oxygen, as well as larger fauna.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...nt-deplete-the-earths-oxygen-supply-heres-why

 

[simonmet]

Whatever Apple donates won’t achieve anything in the scheme of things without political change. Most countries are destroying their environments in one form or another. Habitat loss, species and genetic diversity loss, plastic and carbon pollution and an ever growing population have been issues for decades but few seem to want to do anything about it.

 

[Gasu E.]

By spreading more misinformation? Forbes is a well known anti-environmental neo-con publication.

They quote this guy, Dr. Daniel Nepstad of the Earth Innovation Insitute https://earthinnovation.org/about/staff/daniel-nepstad/ He really is one of the world's top experts on Amazon deforestation. You can check him out for yourself.

 

[Rainshadow]

Macrumours has turned into an alt-right haven. I’m out.

I’ve actually found this thread to one of the more informative conversations recently on this site. The fact you run and hide from one of only a handful of “right-leaning” posts instead of reading from the multiple cited sources the “alt-right” folks have presented is the most disappointing thing about this whole thread... and the burning topic puts that bar high.

The sources some folks used were Forbes, nasa, .org sites etc... not downwithgreenies.com SMH

“Alt-Right” to you must just be someone who doesn’t agree with you.

 

[Shirasaki]

Pocketing trees is harder than pocketing money. Apple is feeding off greedy government who cares nothing about sustainability and humanity.

if you don't plan to tell people how much you donate... then why even post it then??

is getting recognition online more important than the act itself?

Yes, this will show Apple caring about these types of stuff, not a company purely chasing after the biggest chunk of gold. PR is the key, not the act.

Amazon, of all companies, should be donating to this cause! I'm sure they are.

There needs to be a massive, global resistance to deforestation! Managing logging and forests are sustainable, but these companies are coming in, raping the land, and then leaving. It's pure criminal. Don't they realize that those forests are a home to countless species? They just don't care. It's all about the mighty dollar.

Every year is bringing something new, and this year brought a lot! Ice bergs melting. Vital forests disappearing. There really is no turning back unless WE turn it around! We can't wait for governments and companies to step up. WE need to step up, at our homes, in our lives. We need to stop buying products with wasteful packaging. If we do buy something, send a friendly measure to the manufacturer and ask them to switch to sustainable packages. Planning ahead for our shopping to avoid plastic bags, and find the time to commute by foot or bike more, instead of by car and truck. Consumers can't ignore their role in this.

All things are good, until you apply them to humans, and especially, corporations and countries. Ten years ago, I might still have hope that corporations and countries might act together to save this beautiful and more than likely, only planet human lives in. Now, I don’t have that hope anymore.

Since these fires are largely normal and hyped by the media for "climate change" issues, don't believe the media hype, its All #Fakenews, with an occasional article pointing out some actual facts, but you have to look hard to find it.

There are always #fakenews because we don’t always have enough information to digest and analyse before giving a formal opinion on a matter. Or, people intentionally choose to believe information from one source and one source only. Insufficient information generates insufficient opinions or decisions. Such is the core of fake news and hate speech.

Whatever Apple donates won’t achieve anything in the scheme of things without political change. Most countries are destroying their environments in one form or another. Habitat loss, species and genetic diversity loss, plastic and carbon pollution and an ever growing population have been issues for decades but few seem to want to do anything about it.

I’d say nobody. That’s why we cannot have nice things.

 

[itsamacthing]

These fires are concerning, however these fires are healthy for the environment and the forest will grow back stronger

 

[incoherent_1]

Great! Protecting our planet’s precious nature & biodiversity are all things I know every person can support oh wait I’m on the MR Forums

 

[jerwin]

Virtue signalling. For most people it IS more important.

Classical signaling theory is based on the observation that "talk is cheap".

"Signalling theory explains such apparent waste as cooperation’s efficiency (Sosis 2003; Bulbulia 2004a).1 Signalling theorists observe that expressions of religious piety are associated with moral commitments and are also hard to fake. This means that pious expressions provide a medium in which partners may express and evaluate genuine moral commitments. Importantly then, costly signalling holds that both the conservation of religion and its apparent irrationality can be accounted for by a single model, one that combines moral policing with virtue signalling.

Because classical signalling theory thus solves the recognition problem with the cost problem, the theory is elegant. Classical signalling theory is also backed by evidence. Indeed a growing number emprical studies reveal that cooperative partners attune to expressions of piety, and that greater productions of religious costs are found as the need for assurance for cooperative interaction action rises (Chen 2007; Soler 2008).

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=thAzhaIbiHMC&oi=fnd&pg=PA35#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Wanted797]

Apple is investing heavily in Amazon...

According to Google....

 

[Winni]

How about taking off Brazil beef from the menu instead of donating?

How about taking it to the level where it should be: Become a vegetarian.
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It’s all fake just shows what celebs do now days make up stories and people believe it all the photos are fake and the story is fake https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#545bbc815bde

Well. I'm afraid the BBC slightly disagrees with Forbes, which is after all a BUSINESS(!) magazine and slightly of its league on this topic. Alone the Amazon's role as a global(!) "carbon sink" shouldn't be underestimated or undervalued.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130226-amazon-lungs-of-the-planet

And, of course, the WWF also has something to say about it:

http://wwf.panda.org/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/amazon/about_the_amazon/why_amazon_important/

 

[Tech198]

Apple is investing heavily in Amazon...

They'd have to...That's allot of trees.

if you don't plan to tell people how much you donate... then why even post it then??

is getting recognition online more important than the act itself?

Probably more like, "by not telling.. if keeps us guessing how *little* they would" Unless the pubic knows, why should we just take their word for it ?

 

[PJivan]

Climate change is junk science

and earth is flat...sorry but don't be surprised when the stereotype of american is ignorant.
It's not acceptable to be so clueless in a western free country.

You don't get to decide what science is, you never put enough effort in your life so just accept this, focus in what you are good at and don't play the part of the guy who knows it all.

p.s. climate change is not a science, is just a phenomena that different science fields are observing, a science is not a political believe, is a method to exclude personal believes and interest from researches.

 

[-DMN-]

Since these fires are largely normal and hyped by the media for "climate change" issues, don't believe the media hype, its All #Fakenews, with an occasional article pointing out some actual facts, but you have to look hard to find it.

FAKE NEWS

 

[Rojaaemon]

Only $1 million? That’s like one week of pay for Tim Apple.

But Tim is not giving his money, he is giving Apple stock owners' money.

 

[Wowzera]

Proof? Show us the proof. Unless you're pro-logging?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#2be7045e5bde

 

[Marekul]

"The fires are of growing concern as the rainforest in the area generates approximately 20 percent of the world's oxygen, and it is also known for housing 10 percent of the world's known biodiversity."

The forest produces 20% of the world's oxygen but it also consumes 20% of the world's oxygen.
The world's lungs are the oceans, not a rainforest.

Other fun fact: All the co2 plants absorb get released into atmosphere when they die and rot.
Funniest fact ever: H2O vapor (yes water vapor) has a 300x stronger “greenhouse effect” than CO2.

 

[Bin Cook]

iPhone price increase confirmed.

Further, the Western developed nations spent the past 200 years devastating the Earth to become rich and provide us the sort of living standards we have at the moment. Put aside the fact that we will all die as a result of the deforestation, but really, who are we to dictate to Brazil that they cannot plunder the planet's resources to do the same, just because there are a few more days each year where it's too hot to take the dog for a walk, or that beachfront property might become an undersea property?

 

[flygbuss]

Unfortunately people want to believe what comforts them.
So as long as burning hell isn't it in front of their doorsteps nothing will change.
What I can’t see, can’t be there.. all ‘junk science’.

 

[chfilm]

poisonous carbon monoxide cloud over south america from August 8-22nd according to nasa scans: congratulations!

 

[theapplehead]

But Tim is not giving his money, he is giving Apple stock owners' money.

True. How thoughtful of him to make the decision for them to donate.

 

[iReality85]

What a farce.

There are many worth-while causes you can donate to. But Amazonian fires? Good grief.

The Amazon has fires every year. Some more, some less; the vast majority are caused by ranchers over farmable land, not inside the forested area. In case anyone has forgotten the obvious: fires need dry land/material and arid air to propagate. IT'S A RAINFOREST- i.e. it's usually humid and wet, and not conducive to fires. This time of year is when the air is less humid, and that's when farmers prepare their land (burn it) for next year's crops. It's actually a form of pest control, and is a good thing.

No, the Amazon isn't going anywhere. In fact, tree canopy coverage has increased in recent years, and deforestation of the Amazon is actually WAY down from the 90s and earlier decades.

Don't give your money to this scam.

https://reason.com/2019/08/23/dont-panic-amazon-burning-is-mostly-farms-not-forests/

 

[flygbuss]

IT'S A RAINFOREST- i.e. it's usually humid and wet, and not conducive to fires.

I seriously hope you are kidding..