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Apple Donating to Notre Dame Rebuilding Efforts in Paris After Historic Cathedral Damaged in Fire
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I'll bite as well: could you give us any specifics on how visiting this building could prolong someone's life?
It's your loss, if you really don't understand. I don't see much point in debating with someone who is willfully blind and wishes to remain so.
So I'll just point out that the average life expectancy in France is longer than in the USA. It's not literally that there is a magic aura about the building that prolongs life. But their are more people in France who "get it" than there are in the US. And the people who "get it" both live longer and get a lot more out of visiting Notre Dame than you are capable of.
You made a pretty bold, unsupported claim and if I'm being willfully blind about your claim, it should be pretty easy to back it up. As it stands, I subscribe to the adage that that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
OK, but you clearly implied that there was something about the building that was prolonging lives, and that's the problem with this whole thread--people are ascribing momentous feats to a building and not considering that lots of us recognize the significance of the art/architecture/history but roll our eyes at anything beyond that.
See, I'd possibly agree with you that living in France could contribute to a longer lifetime, but you said it was the building, which was kind of the whole point...and now you're talking vaguely in code about 'it' like you have some kind of special powers that I'm incapable of.
I've been there. Cool building, hope they get it figured out, but it's hilarious to think that I'll live longer because I was there.[/quote]
The rich comes first...
Why doesn't Apple do what they always do in crisis moment.. "donate part payment of iTunes?App purchased go to ..."
Trust champagne houses will bring in the most ..
Why doesn't Apple do what they always do in crisis moment.. "donate part payment of iTunes?App purchased go to ..."
Trust champagne houses will bring in the most ..
My visit there was a few decades ago, as a young man touring Europe with alone a backpack in a quiet November. I’m not religious. I was marvelling at Paris already, but when I entered the building I was awestruck by the beauty of the place, and the thought of hundreds of generations of the millions of people who had visited it before me. A few elderly faithful were there, lighting candles and praying. That visit long ago inspired me to carry on to do the best I could in my own life. The memory stuck with me. Notre Dame might belong to the Republic and the Catholic Church, but it has meaning for all people. The craftsmanship signalled to me all that humans can do to build good, lasting things that transcend human foibles. The rebuilding is a very important symbol.
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Apple needs the PR even less than the million dollars. They donate to causes they believe in: sometimes to disasters that affect their customers and employees; sometimes to causes like the $100 million for the ConnectED program to fund technology upgrades and other services for underserved schools; $50 million to improving diversity in tech; 1,000 Apple Watches to an eating disorder study; scholarships for kids to attend WWDC; their employee donation matching program and so on.
If the glass completely empty cynics wish to characterize their efforts as self-serving, Apple’s ok with that.
I never said that the smoke was yellow. I said lead, including it's fumes, is toxic.
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/lead/
No doubt Apple will make its thinnest donation ever.
Respect to all the French firms pledging such amazing figures.
The Church gets insurance for some of the objects inside.
The French state is self-insured since 1889 because they own many things.
The historic significance alone makes the 800 year old structure worth rebuilding. I doubt if there are any old growth oaks left in the world from witch new beams can be fabricated to hold up the roof.
Referring to Notre Dame de Paris (or any of the European gothic cathedrals) as a ‘church’ is equivalent to saying the Grand Canyon is an irrigation ditch.
It took 100+ years to build it. They should take the time to make sure the restoration is done correctly.
Even if oak has been donated (which would likely not suffice), it would not make much sense to build the roof the same way, as cathedrals evolve over centuries and the old wood is gone.
It is also likely that the remaining structure would no longer be able to support an identical roof.
The fundraising for the Louisiana churches "skyrocketed".
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If you added up all their money and all their assets in all the different ways they store and hide it, then they are by and far the richest organisation in the world and like you say, richer than many many countries.
The cost of rebuilding the cathedral from scratch could be paid for and not even noticed by them, they would earn more in interest during the build time then how much the build would cost.
When you consider that Apple’s views and ethics are not shared by the Catholic Church (or by any mainstream religion), and they have in the past asked for Apple customers to donate towards the cost natural disasters and other causes, it’s bad to think that Apple themselves see this as more worthy of receiving funds.
I feel that this is part of Tim’s plan to make Apple a super friendly company, instead he and Apple should have just not even acknowledged the incident and spent their money elsewhere.
I do think though that this might be paid out of money that is trapped in the EU due to tax purposes though.
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That has nothing to do with Notre Dame or religion though.
The French generally live a healthier life style than Americans. There is nowhere near as much processed rubbish in their food and drinks. The South of France in particular has access to the Mediterranean, where there is plenty of fresh food to pick from. Sports such as football (soccer), Rugby, and cycling etc are hugely popular France, and not just played by high school kids and adults once year.
The healthcare system is free to use and classed as one of the worlds best, providing excellent healthcare to all of France’s citizens.
Saying it’s down to a church or people’s religious views is wholly inaccurate (especially when France is actually a secular country).