Apple Donating to Relief Efforts Following Tornadoes in Several U.S. States

[4jasontv]

No it isn't, imo. You give, you are entitled to put out a press release about. It's good for the public at large to understand who is doing what.

It's selfish and gross. It's leaving a price tag on a present unsettling. If someone thinks their donation makes them entitled then they really need to spend the money on themselves because that's clearly what they want to do.

Not in my opinion.

Again, not in my opinion. In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and it will spur more donations.

Humans are not altruistic and won't do things unless they see some benefit for themselves. It's more likely that Apple claiming they made a donation will increase the number of people who also claim to make one. But it won't increase the number of donations, and it likely will result in fewer.

While I'm sure there are people who think like that, I'm sure there are people who don't. IMO, the people who wouldn't give "because Apple gave", wouldn't' have given anyway. So there's that. But I guess it's glass half-empty or full,, depending on whether one has a cynical view of life...or not.

This opinion of yours would require a fundamental change in all biological life. This isn't about optimism and pessimism. It's about manner and realism.

One could also say the glass is half empty or full if you are delusional or not. I won't say that because I am not trying to make this a personal attack. I am just saying to go, donate and keep it to yourself.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

Whilst this is a good generous thing to do. I still fail to understand why people choose to live in these places, tornados happen every year at particular times in certain places like tornado alley right? But people still choose to live there? Anyone on here from tornado alley? Can you explain why you live there and face this danger every year? I genuinely don't get why you would.

I live in Illinois along with 13 million other people. The only explanation is that we must all be idiots. Or... that perhaps the odds of a tornado hitting your specific neighborhood are practically zero, so it doesn't really factor.

 

[citysnaps]

It's always a once-in-a-lifetime disaster, isn't it? It's never good enough to just contribute to those in need and not make a big deal every time the checkbook comes out. Why is it some people need everyone to know their parents bought the wine?

Seeking recognition is why people call this a publicity stunt.

I have nothing against Apple helping. They should help. It's on them to not be gross. Just like it's on you and I not to share where, when, and how much we donate.

Eye roll to Apple and Tim Cook for bragging about stepping up.

"It's always a once-in-a-lifetime disaster, isn't it?"

Yes, when it is, as it certainly is in this case. Needing huge amounts of help where large companies can make a huge difference that might otherwise not be met without their help. I don't expect Apple or other companies to make a statement regarding, say, a more typical disaster that is normally expected, and dealt with locally.

If Ford, Samsung, General Electric, Google, Tesla, etc. want to wish people well in a disaster and say they are stepping up to help, that certainly won't trigger me.

"It's on them to not be gross." "Seeking recognition is why people call this a publicity stunt."

It's only gross and viewed as a stunt by you, likely driven by cynicism. Try not to let what others do upset you so much, and try and be happy for their support. I certainly am. And as I said, it doesn't trigger me in the slightest. Why would it?

 

[I7guy]

It's selfish and gross. It's leaving a price tag on a present unsettling. If someone thinks their donation makes them entitled then they really need to spend the money on themselves because that's clearly what they want to do.

Humans are not altruistic and won't do things unless they see some benefit for themselves. It's more likely that Apple claiming they made a donation will increase the number of people who also claim to make one. But it won't increase the number of donations, and it likely will result in fewer.

This opinion of yours would require a fundamental change in all biological life. This isn't about optimism and pessimism. It's about manner and realism.

One could also say the glass is half empty or full if you are delusional or not. I won't say that because I am not trying to make this a personal attack. I am just saying to go, donate and keep it to yourself.

Okay. I disagree with the entirety of the premise of the post. As I said before, ymmv. One thing for sure I applaud Apple and others giving to needed causes. Their giving has no bearing on my donations, and I wouldn’t be able to give them kudos if they didn’t “crow” about it.

 

[4jasontv]

"It's always a once-in-a-lifetime disaster, isn't it?"

Yes, when it is, as it certainly is in this case.

No, it's not. We have had many tornados disasters comfortably within a human lifespan. Many of them had far more deaths than this one. It's not a once in a life time disaster. It's just a disaster.

Needing huge amounts of help where large companies can make a huge difference that might otherwise not be met without their help. I don't expect Apple or other companies to make a statement regarding, say, a more typical disaster that is normally expected, and dealt with locally.

If Ford, Samsung, General Electric, Google, Tesla, etc. want to wish people well in a disaster and say they are stepping up to help, that certainly won't trigger me.

I love it when people start using the word "trigger." It's shorthand for I don't really have a good stance so I am going to try and make something out of nothing by claiming the other person is having an unreasonable emotional response.

"It's on them to not be gross." "Seeking recognition is why people call this a publicity stunt."

It's only gross and viewed as a stunt by you, likely driven by cynicism. Try not to let what others do upset you so much, and try and be happy for their support. I certainly am. And as I said, it doesn't trigger me in the slightest. Why would it?

It's more than me though, isn't it. Many people on this forum have said similar things. Again, try not to use personal insults and direct attacks to defend yourself. It's not a personal thing. It's just a comment that it's tacky to tell people about your charitable contributions. If it helps, think of it as that icky feeling you get when you see someone boast about being a career politician. LOOK AT ME TURN A CIVIL SERVICE INTO A PROFIT.

Okay. I disagree with the entirety of the premise of the post. As I said before, ymmv. One thing for sure I applaud Apple and others giving to needed causes. Their giving has no bearing on my donations, and I wouldn’t be able to give them kudos if they didn’t “crow” about it.

The whole point is they should be proud of helping without needing your kudos. Just donate the money and wait until financial reports to declare it. If they really care about helping people they won't report it as a deduction and not only contribute via donations but also via taxes.

 

[newuser2121]

Lol, who is going to pay for this? us. More expensive iphones coming next year.

 

[Pezimak]

I live in Illinois along with 13 million other people. The only explanation is that we must all be idiots. Or... that perhaps the odds of a tornado hitting your specific neighborhood are practically zero, so it doesn't really factor.

Please note you are the one calling yourself an idiot. I never mentioned such a thing once, but your the second person to refer to themselves as such in reply to my comment. An odd way to reply by insulting yourself and millions of others?

 

[baypharm]

Just a thought here but if anyone has a large trailerable smoker/grill or food truck they can spare for a few months or so and are willing to drive to the affected towns and provide free meals to these needy people, I will be more than willing and able to provide financial assistance toward this.

 

[skitidetdu]

Unreal to see the destruction on TV.

 

[SilverWalker]

Nevada -- and some parts of the surrounding states -- is pretty much disaster-free. The obvious problem is, of course, that it's a desert and a largely undesirable place to be.

So if bought up lots of land, terraformed it, you would make a fortune when everyone would want to move there.

 

[coolfactor]

Whilst this is a good generous thing to do. I still fail to understand why people choose to live in these places, tornados happen every year at particular times in certain places like tornado alley right? But people still choose to live there? Anyone on here from tornado alley? Can you explain why you live there and face this danger every year? I genuinely don't get why you would.

I fail to understand why they don't build for tornadoes, knowing that they will come. We build for earthquakes along the Ring of Fire, by law. All buildings in Tornado Alley should be built to withstand tornadoes, at least partially.

 

[Someirishguy]

Why did you disagree with my post? It was a genuine question, which you then went and answered, we don’t all live in the US so only see tornados in the news and documentary’s, I wanted to know why people lived in the area. But you have said you have never seen a tornado in all your years in a tornado prone area, so that helps set expectations and highlights people live in tornado alley because it’s rare you’ll ever see one. I didn’t know that so thank you.

I was wondering the same thing. But presumably a lot of people are either born there and move there for work too. Regarding probabilities, I presume insurance companies have worked it out. Do people have insurance against tornados? If so, presumably the stats are in the insurance companies favour. Also, I wonder how many people die in car crashes over the same area in the same time (but don’t consider stopping driving).

 

[mondayriot]

You know what would be more awesome? If Apple donated without broadcasting it to everyone.

 

[44267547]

You know what would be more awesome? If Apple donated without broadcasting it to everyone.

Your post requires significant clarification.

I also assume, you didn’t even read what Tim Cook said and just interjected a snide comment, which Apple (As a company) offered condolences first for the victims of the natural disaster zones, then he said after the fact; ‘we are donating…….’

You See, that’s what respectable companies do, they pay their respects by acknowledging the situation first and then offer how they would like to contribute. That’s called mutual respect, not ‘broadcasting to everyone’, as you’re making it sound like grandstanding.

There, this should clarify what really occurred.

 

[ericwn]

Lol, who is going to pay for this? us. More expensive iphones coming next year.

Spot on, corporations get their money from selling stuff to their customers. Wether or not they’ll just pay from their savings remains to be seen. You can rest assured though that in a mature market like the mobile device market prices for iPhones will not go down anyway.

 

[jlc1978]

I fail to understand why they don't build for tornadoes, knowing that they will come. We build for earthquakes along the Ring of Fire, by law. All buildings in Tornado Alley should be built to withstand tornadoes, at least partially.

Earthquakes present a different challenge vs tornadoes. For tornadoes, you need to design a structure to withstand 300+MPH winds that can toss a car around or hurl a heavy boulder against it. Then there is the pressure differential to deal with as well, you don't want it to rip away a wall from that. You'd need a foot or more of reinforced concrete and steel doors and windows; the cost alone would make it unaffordable.

 

[ericwn]

You know what would be more awesome? If Apple donated without broadcasting it to everyone.

Then folks would wonder: what is a big company like Apple doing to help? “Apple declined to comment “ certainly does not go down well by any stretch of the imagination. This is the time to create awareness and gather momentum with others who might then be more inclined to donate as well.

 

[I7guy]

[…].

The whole point is they should be proud of helping without needing your kudos. Just donate the money and wait until financial reports to declare it. If they really care about helping people they won't report it as a deduction and not only contribute via donations but also via taxes.

Who said apple “needed” my kudos? Where did you get that from?

Good for apple (and other companies) that let the public at large know of their philanthropy and don’t listen to MacRumors internet posters.

 

[iOS Geek]

Earthquakes present a different challenge vs tornadoes. For tornadoes, you need to design a structure to withstand 300+MPH winds that can toss a car around or hurl a heavy boulder against it. Then there is the pressure differential to deal with as well, you don't want it to rip away a wall from that. You'd need a foot or more of reinforced concrete and steel doors and windows; the cost alone would make it unaffordable.

Heck, if I’m not mistaken (don’t remember if it was Joplin, El Reno, or Moore) but supposedly there was a “tornado-proof dome house” that was partially ripped apart and rendered uninhabitable after one of those tornadoes. Living in the Midwest…that’s a terrifying thought if true. Nature almost always wins.

As much as I would love to see a tornado over an open field with no civilization around it to destroy…I’m perfectly happy having never seen one in my life so far. Absolutely fascinating weather phenomenon. But downright terrifying.

 

[MauiPa]

Now that is something that Samsung SHOULD copy

 

[MauiPa]

Nothing but a PR stunt here.

So I take it your donation is $0? How could absolutely anyone be cynical towards supporting anyone in need at a traumatic time? Time for a little self-reflection, I have to go

 

[4jasontv]

Who said apple “needed” my kudos? Where did you get that from?

Good for apple (and other companies) that let the public at large know of their philanthropy and don’t listen to MacRumors internet posters.

Lol, you seem to think they want it because you keep singing their praises for being narcissistic.

 

[4jasontv]

Your post requires significant clarification.

I also assume, you didn’t even read what Tim Cook said and just interjected a snide comment, which Apple (As a company) offered condolences first for the victims of the natural disaster zones, then he said after the fact; ‘we are donating…….’

You See, that’s what respectable companies do, they pay their respects by acknowledging the situation first and then offer how they would like to contribute. That’s called mutual respect, not ‘broadcasting to everyone’, as you’re making it sound like grandstanding.

There, this should clarify what really occurred.

They undermined their sympathy by making the whole thing about them. The order of information is irrelevant.

 

[E.Lizardo]

Whilst this is a good generous thing to do. I still fail to understand why people choose to live in these places, tornados happen every year at particular times in certain places like tornado alley right? But people still choose to live there? Anyone on here from tornado alley? Can you explain why you live there and face this danger every year? I genuinely don't get why you would.

I live in tornado alley. In my lifetime(I'm 64)exactly ONE tornado has come anywhere close to me and that was 40 miles away. In fact that was the only one in the last hundred years. Additionally the warning systems in place are phenomenally effective. Are you proposing we evacuate the entire west coast (earthquakes, wildfires,volcanoes,tsunamis),and another 20% or more of the continental U.S due to tornadoes? It's easy to lose sight of how big and sparsely populated the US is(the UK is only 2.5 times the size of just Tennessee,and Tennessee has only 6.8 million people) and how microscopic the actual area damaged by tornadoes is. Average deaths per year is 70. Traffic deaths? 38,000. So it's really not as bad as it seems.

 

[PC_tech]

Asinine statement. Please explain what you consider "tornado alley". Maybe we should just abandon the heart of the country, you know, the part that feeds the world. Add that most of the area affected is not in any way"tornado alley". While we are at it, lets abandon the east and gulf coasts due to hurricanes, the west coast for earthquakes/fires/drought, and southwest for being desert.

This is tornado alley…..

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