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Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.
Agreed. A Dell XPS running MacOS would be a great machine.
 
Still showing $200 in the US store, but if it was a pricing error, it might not yet be updated on our side of The Pond.

That poster is looking at the wrong MacBook Pro. The price increase is worldwide.
 
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Yes, they gave transition time,
So, the lesson here is to not years and years on deserted islands for an extended time... and even if you don’t, check your email. Because, not only has iCloud changed, many other services would have made impacting changes, too. Heck, you could come back and see that you don’t have Netflix access anymore!
 
So a machine that would already be overpriced at its base price by at least $100 if it came with 16GB stock is now extraordinarily overpriced for what it is if you want a decent amount of RAM for a "Pro" machine. Awesome.
 
"suggesting an unexpected increase in Apple's costs being passed along to consumers."

That is complete nonsense.

RAM prices have not moved, they want to maximize profit and adjusted due to price elasticity which they were able to evaluate after the first sales statistics.

Agreed... and Apple was already charging a premium anyway.

If anything:
- Apple buys stuff in bulk using US dollars from overseas while every other currency is down, so they are saving when buying their RAM from China. Their pipelines would be all about minimising their purchase price + tax. Whereas, common customers don't have such pipelines.
- Postage from China hasn't changed. It's still cheap as chips.
- Apple charges customers way more than what they pay (3-4x minimum) so they are expanding their buffer.
- Looking outside the US of A (a hilarious name given how divided their states are on COVID-19 but whatevz I guess), this increase won't be a 'doubling', it will be more due to exchange rates compounding it (in tandum with Apple's price rises).

It's a ripoff and Apple aren't exactly poor! DO NOT buy memory from Apple...
 
LOL Apple, why don’t they just remove the 8th gen MBP 13. If you want more power from your Air, get a 10th gen MBP 13. With 16GB RAM.

If you look at benchmarks, 8th gen processors are pretty close to the 10th gens. But Apple has rigged their product stack so consumers are encouraged to buy the $1,800 MacBook Pro.

MacBook Air = fanless heatsink to limit Turbo performance
MacBook Pro 13" (two ports) = 16GB RAM for $200
 
Apple buys stuff in bulk using US dollars from overseas while every other currency is down, so they are saving when buying their RAM from China.

They are not. Of the three major DRAM vendors, two are Korean (Samsung, SK Hynix), and one is US (Micron). In fact, one of Samsung's major DRAM lines is in the US (Austin).

It's overly simplistic to think costs are tied into exchange rates. Last year, Japan got into a dispute with South Korea, refused to export photoresist to them, causing prices to shoot up in anticipation of a shortage.
 
LOL Apple, why don’t they just remove the 8th gen MBP 13. If you want more power from your Air, get a 10th gen MBP 13. With 16GB RAM.

Pity the price jump to 10th gen is so huge!

agreed!
I think that Apple had done that before and I’m pissed Apple is segregating the model range in the 13” which is already left out of the “Pro” without a dedicated GPU.
 
Screw this company, lol.
Is Apple offering a 16GB upgrade by adding an extra 8GB RAM on top of the stock 8GB RAM, or do they now discard the original 8GB RAM part and insert a 16GB RAM, leaving the secondary slot available? That might change pricing.
There’s nothing to inset in a MacBook. It’s soldered in.
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Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.
Of course, it’s possible.
 
Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.
If you don’t want or need MacOS, you can usually save money buying a PC. It’s been that way for decades.
 
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In Australia the same upgrade is $300AUD... Not sure what it was before?

Sure I could buy a cheaper Windows Laptop, but would it last me as long? I'm typing this on my late 2013 13" rMBP. I've had the battery replaced but this machine is still perfectly fine. If i'd bought a similarly equipped Windows laptop at the sametime, would it still be running now? Somehow I doubt it.

Of course will the current model Macbook Pro still be running in 7 years time (assuming we're all still alive in 7 years time?)

Time will tell...
 
RAM is soldered to the systemboard so Apple makes two types of system boards - one with 8GB installed and one with 16GB installed.



Frankly, if this price hike remains only for this model, then I don't see this as just "Apple being Apple" and jacking up the price because they can. They have effectively now invalidated offering the older 8th generation models at $1299 and $1499 with anything other than 8GB of RAM because adding $200 brings you so close to the $1799 model with 16GB which also has a 10th Gen CPU and two more TB3 ports.

So the supply shortage might not be in RAM, but in 16GB system boards for the 2 TB port model and Apple is using the price hike to discourage people from purchasing this configuration and either go 8GB or upgrade to the $1799 model (which offers far better value for the $100-200 over a 16GB 2 port model at the new pricing).

This sounds like the most correct theory.

Price Anchoring. Like you said they probably have limited boards, sell the 8GBs for the people who don’t care but push the rest towards the high end (better) option.
 
I am not sure why Tim Apple insists on milking the iSheep instead of making more money by growing their market share. MacOS has only like 12% market share so there is about 88% area for growth. Increase prices will just push away people to decrease MacOS users ultimately killing MacOS slowly.

Less Sales=Less upgrades=less users=less 3rd party support--->Less Sales

"The contract prices of DDR4 8 Gigabit (Gb) DRAMs, which are used for personal computers (PCs), averaged US$3.29 as of the end of April, up 11.9 percent from US$2.94 in March, according to market research firm DRAMeXchange on May 4."

When things go up by 10%, Apple reads that as 100%.
are you saying apple is selling $3.29 RAM for $200?

Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.

and better hardware options like ports!
 
In Australia the same upgrade is $300AUD... Not sure what it was before?

Sure I could buy a cheaper Windows Laptop, but would it last me as long? I'm typing this on my late 2013 13" rMBP. I've had the battery replaced but this machine is still perfectly fine. If i'd bought a similarly equipped Windows laptop at the sametime, would it still be running now? Somehow I doubt it.

Of course will the current model Macbook Pro still be running in 7 years time (assuming we're all still alive in 7 years time?)

Time will tell...
There are quality laptops out there running Windows. I’d rather buy a quality ThinkPad over a MBP and i’d save money. I still have a ThinkPad T60 which I purchased in 2006 that is running the most current build of Windows 10 with 3GB of ram and it runs great. The only thing i’ve replaced is the battery and ThinkPad‘s still have some of the best keyboards.
I’ve been eyeing on Amazon a ThinkPad with 8GB of ram, 256GB SSD, Windows 10 Pro and AMD 3500 CPU for $639.
 
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