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Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.
Yep. Still on the fence with iPhones though.
 
Stuff like this makes me even happier with my decision to NOT replace my 2013 15" MBP with another MBP last November. At the time I made the decision mainly due to the butterfly keyboard (my wife has a MBP with it and I hate that keyboard). I bought a Lenovo X1 Extreme with a far better keyboard and I was actually able to upgrade my own RAM and add a second SSD myself. My current machine runs Windows 10, PopOS, Ubuntu, and Elementary OS and I am very happy. Linux is so good today that if a few more software companies would start making software for the OS both Mac OS and Windows would have some serious competition. If I didn't use Ableton Live I would completely remove Windows and be quite happy. Anyway, Apple's prices for memory upgrades were ridiculous before this price increase. I did play with the 16" MacBook Pro today at Costco, and honestly I was surprised because MacOS takes forever to launch applications. It seriously seemed slow.
 
1. Price is of secondary concern when it comes to buying Apple. Apple is not a "tech" company or a "computer" company or a "watch" company: it's a fashion company, so all this talk about pricing is quite irrelevant if one is arguing price based on anything other than what people are willing to pay for fashion accessories.

2. A MacBook Air is more than adequate for 90% of folks who require a laptop computer and who choose to go with Apple.

3. Those that require the MacBook Pro are "high end users." They know what they need and they are able to afford the price increase, which at $100 is trivial in the big scheme of things.

4. It's an interesting discussion, but I agree with the individual who suggested the headline was clickbait: "doubling the price" seems a lot more troublesome than simply saying the increase was $100 and brings the price in line with all other models. In fact from the point of view, there is no story here except to say the price of memory upgrade for the 13-inch MacBook Pro is now in line with the rest of the models.
 
Come on guys we are in a Global Pandemic, the worst since 1918 over 100 years ago, the whole World was shut down for 2 months! What did you expect?
For one of the biggest company in tech with by far the highest profit margin and the self-imposed claim to be a company with a special social conscience (I know, I know...), in this particular situation maybe not to milk its customers even more? In the end it's all about the money, so indeed nothing we should be really surprised by, but still...
 
Yep. Still on the fence with iPhones though.
Yeah, in my opinion iPhone still blows away Android. I have no hesitation about that. Also, the iPad Pro is a great device as well. Macs, however, seem to have been on pause for the last five or six years, probably because Apple has neglected the platform mostly since the era of Steve Jobs ended (unless you really think the touch bar was innovative, I guess).
 
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That’s my beef. I used to buy the Mac that I needed today and then upgrade RAM and storage as needs changed. I got YEARS out of old hardware that way. Now, you either buy what you need today (in the hope that it will be enough over the life of the machine) or buy more than you need, which feels sucky because of what they charge for these upgrades at the factory and the fact that you don’t need it. Either that or upgrade the entire machine more often that you need to.
I got my 2010 13" mac book pro running once the pandemic started, put a new SSD, upgraded the ram to 16gb, and man it's fast and I can fix it if it breaks again. I can't even replace the battery on my 2018 mac book pro, its just better to buy a new mac. The "adhesive" BS is stupid
 
are you saying apple is selling $3.29 RAM for $200?

Just to clarify, the quoted price is for an 8 Gigabit chip. You would need 8 of them to make a 8Gigabyte module. They may also use higher-density chips in the Macbook, which may be more pricey.
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I got my 2010 13" mac book pro running once the pandemic started, put a new SSD, upgraded the ram to 16gb, and man it's fast and I can fix it if it breaks again. I can't even replace the battery on my 2018 mac book pro, its just better to buy a new mac. The "adhesive" BS is stupid

I am in the same boat. But I think Apple as a corporation does not like this. They feel that people rocking their computer for 10+ years are hurting new sales. What they don't get is, I would have already bought a new iMac, if I could upgrade the SSD or graphics card easily. So I hold on to my old machine and start looking for alternatives...
 
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But lets not pretend Apple is the only one soldering on RAM in thin and light laptops

My XPS 13 9360 from late 2016 I got a maybe 2 years ago now is soldered on too.
Oh sure. I know it's not just Apple - it's just an industry-wide trend that I take issue with. I'm grumbling here because it's an Apple forum discussing Apple hardware.
 
- Postage from China hasn't changed. It's still cheap as chips.
100% false. Shipping from China to US has sky rocketed. Not only that, shipments can be held up in customs for weeks now. Shipping via sea is still reasonable, but there are minimum weights (which shouldn’t be a problem for Apple).

I talked to multiple factories for my product over the last couple weeks and was given similar shipping rates from all of them, so it wasn’t 1 place just trying to take advantage of the current situation. And for air they were all 2-3x what they were a few months ago.
 
In Australia the same upgrade is $300AUD... Not sure what it was before?

Sure I could buy a cheaper Windows Laptop, but would it last me as long? I'm typing this on my late 2013 13" rMBP. I've had the battery replaced but this machine is still perfectly fine. If i'd bought a similarly equipped Windows laptop at the sametime, would it still be running now? Somehow I doubt it.

Of course will the current model Macbook Pro still be running in 7 years time (assuming we're all still alive in 7 years time?)

Time will tell...

If Apple‘s products are so robust, well designed and built to a higher standard, why don’t they offer them as standard with a warranty beyond a year. Many PC’s come with 2 & 3 year warranties. If they're so reliable, why does it cost you 20% of the original purchase price to extend the warranty? Seems Apple has less confidence in their products than their consumers.
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100% false. Shipping from China to US has sky rocketed. Not only that, shipments can be held up in customs for weeks now. Shipping via sea is still reasonable, but there are minimum weights (which shouldn’t be a problem for Apple).

I talked to multiple factories for my product over the last couple weeks and was given similar shipping rates from all of them, so it wasn’t 1 place just trying to take advantage of the current situation. And for air they were all 2-3x what they were a few months ago.

all that is true...but clearly shipping costs are not the issue as that would have increased the price of everything, not the cost of a single component on a single product. I’m pretty sure that the new 16GB module doesn’t double the size and weight of the laptop?
 
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17 years here. It's not that I even care about the price, but I just don't want to feel like being ripped off.
You’re leaving Apple because of $100? I mean yeah, the “doubled” clickbait article sounds scary but it’s really not that bad in the long run. If you’re getting a computer to last years, you won’t be getting a baseline computer anyways. Get the $1799 model.
 
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What I want to know is why a "Pro" machine is even starting with 8GB of RAM in 2020? My old 15" MacBook Pro from 2011 had 16GB of RAM nine years ago!
 
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I just remind myself that there's no such thing as free lunch, and that despite that fact, Apple does not charge us these days (as it used to, if some people are too young to remember), for either our MacOS upgrades or for bundled software. So maybe the RAM upgrade price hike is about, uh... lunch money.

That said, I hope some of the increase goes towards Apple developers taking more rough edges off Catalina and reading those feedback notes about enhancements...
 
Stuff like this is why after twelve years of using Macs I’m moving Away from Macs to Windows as I can’t justify the prices Apple charge anymore. If I could buy a third-party laptop like Lenovo or HP and install MacOS on it, I’d do it in a heartbeat But alas it’s not possible.
But you'll still be here 12 years from now complaining about Apple.
 
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Yeah, in my opinion iPhone still blows away Android. I have no hesitation about that. Also, the iPad Pro is a great device as well. Macs, however, seem to have been on pause for the last five or six years, probably because Apple has neglected the platform mostly since the era of Steve Jobs ended (unless you really think the touch bar was innovative, I guess).
Macs are definitely going down the crapper and with talks of them being full ARM soon I don't want anything to do with them. Hard to get rid of the iPhone right now until dual-SIM for Android isn't garbage.
 
"suggesting an unexpected increase in Apple's costs being passed along to consumers."

That is complete nonsense.

RAM prices have not moved, they want to maximize profit and adjusted due to price elasticity which they were able to evaluate after the first sales statistics.

Perhaps they were seeing slower sales of the Ice Lake model, and this will make the upsell easier. $1699 for an 8th-gen with 16/512 is a lot harder sale now compared to $1799 for a 10-gen 16/512 model that has a faster processor, better graphics, 2 additional TB3 ports, and somewhat better speakers.
 
If Apple‘s products are so robust, well designed and built to a higher standard, why don’t they offer them as standard with a warranty beyond a year. Many PC’s come with 2 & 3 year warranties. If they're so reliable, why does it cost you 20% of the original purchase price to extend the warranty? Seems Apple has less confidence in their products than their consumers.
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Because Apple regards AppleCare as a profit center. It's pretty much the only thing Apple Store associates have ever had to try to push. Why 20%? Depends on the model, of course. Laptop warranties are always more expensive because (1) people drop them, fling them off tables, and get a lot more than ht keyboard wet when they spill coffee on them; and (2) the parts that are most often replaced (the display and the main logic board) are expensive, and time-consuming to replace.
 
Macs are definitely going down the crapper and with talks of them being full ARM soon I don't want anything to do with them. Hard to get rid of the iPhone right now until dual-SIM for Android isn't garbage.

I dunno, I'm having a whole lot of fun tonight (well this morning in the wee hours) with my new MacBook Air. It's a sweet machine. Of course I'm coming from a pretty beat-up mid-2012 MBP running Mojave off a rotational drive, so that could have something (!) to do with my being a far happier camper now. All I know is it's a pleasure not to have time to do my nails while waiting for the thing to boot or find a place to stash a new file. Anyway I'm still a fan even if I have a laundry list of to-dos for Apple. But they're not about the money for the hardware. And yeah, the iPhones are not only great but the new SE is a steal for the price. Heh, maybe we're paying more for RAM to even things out...
 
I wonder if they are increasing the cost of RAM so they can have a RAM upgrade sale next month? "

RAM Upgrade, 50% off this month only!"
 
Very disappointing. Maybe they're doing this to deflect custom built orders due to constraints at the moment whilst still earning more. Weird.
This makes sense. It's actually a common business strategy to design your pricing to nudge your customers into making certain choices.

Nothing wrong with it. And it's not that the price is hidden, it's written there. The fast food industry is the master of this technique.
 
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