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Well don't forget that OSx86 was around before Apple officially made the transition to Intel and therefore made OS X officially capable of running on anything but PowerPC, so it's not impossible.

Yes... but Apple wrote all the drivers and re-wrote the base code to get it to work on x86, for the x86 community to put back that PPC code, drivers, etc would take a long, long, long, long time.

You'd be better waiting off for an unlimited army of monkeys on typewriters to write Shakespeare... :p
 
Yes... but Apple wrote all the drivers and re-wrote the base code to get it to work on x86, for the x86 community to put back that PPC code, drivers, etc would take a long, long, long, long time.

You'd be better waiting off for an unlimited army of monkeys on typewriters to write Shakespeare... :p

Seriously though, who decides that the most fun they can have with an army of monkeys at their disposal is to play with typewriters?
 
Who's to say it's a hardware limitation? If the trackpad can recognize two fingers, surely Apple could find a way to integrate four fingers. Of course they won't.
you are an idiot, go google about this and you will see many people who are technically more intelligent will say that it is the hardware limitation.

Since I'm feeling generous, I will tell you what I can recall, according to those who tried to hack the gestures, they found out that the 2 finger multitouch trackpad hardware wise is not the same as the 3 finger multitouch trackpad (remember this is before the 4 fingers), so they basically rule out that they can't exactly replicate the 3 finger multitouch on a 2 finger multitouch trackpad.
Now when the 4 finger trackpad was released, those guys open up and found out that the 3 finger trackpad has the same hardware as the 4 finger trackpad, which gives the option that it is likely one a driver problem. Many people emailed Apple asking them to release driver to allow 3 finger trackpad to be able to recognize 4 fingers but Apple kept silent till people just thought that Apple will nvr do it cause they want people to upgrade. But guess what, who knew that in Snow Leopard Apple added this feature, and its a small price to pay for all the other stuffs we get.

Alright, now that's done. Tell me, how the heck is Apple going to create a driver for 2 finger trackpad user when the trackpad hardware is not even the same.
 
Yes... but Apple wrote all the drivers and re-wrote the base code to get it to work on x86, for the x86 community to put back that PPC code, drivers, etc would take a long, long, long, long time.

You'd be better waiting off for an unlimited army of monkeys on typewriters to write Shakespeare... :p

Well we all know that's how Windows Vista was written...
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Except the Microsoft monkeys would have had Apple ads to copy ideas from.
 
Snow Leopard is a minor upgrade to Leopard, and is Intel only. It supports only the video cards and hardware that can function on Intel processors. You have made a non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated. The trackpad gestures are for all MacBook models, and OpenCL should work on any video card on an Intel Mac.

Then i think its appalling they are pawing more money from us. If its just minor update, IT SHOULD BE FREE. It's a rip off. I'll be on linux when my copy of OS X becomes too dated, because despite liking them at first, I honestly think apple are just as bad as Micro$oft. :mad:
 
Then i think its appalling they are pawing more money from us. If its just minor update, IT SHOULD BE FREE. It's a rip off. I'll be on linux when my copy of OS X becomes too dated, because despite liking them at first, I honestly think apple are just as bad as Micro$oft. :mad:

It's minor in terms of user features, major in terms of under-the-hood changes. That's why it's only a MINOR cost. $30 as opposed to the usual $130. What would you expect for $30?
 
Snow Leopard is a minor upgrade to Leopard, and is Intel only. It supports only the video cards and hardware that can function on Intel processors. You have made a non sequitur, your facts are uncoordinated. The trackpad gestures are for all MacBook models, and OpenCL should work on any video card on an Intel Mac.

Actually that's not true. Trackpad gestures will only work on multi-touch trackpads, not my mid-2007 MacBook's. And two-finger scrolling doesn't make it a multi-touch trackpad. As for OpenCL, Apple itself has published a list of supported video cards, and many of the ones they've sold in Intel Macs are not on it. I'm not attacking them, I'm just pointing out that what you said isn't correct.

I don't have a multi-touch trackpad, and my graphics card is GMA 950, so I won't be getting multi-touch gestures OR OpenCL. But that's just how it goes. You've gotta have the hardware.
 
Who's screwing you over? Apple are advertising a product for sale that works on certain hardware. If you have that hardware and want what SL provides, then you buy it. If you don't have that hardware, then don't buy it. Simple. No one is forcing you to buy it. Your computer works now with the applications you have now.

My point is - core features that we are to see in Snow Leopard cannot be recognized unless your computer is less than 1.5 years in age. I find that a little disheartening.
 
Well I guess I won't be recieving any OpenCL love. I have a iMac C2D, 2.16 GHz with an ATI Radeon X1600 graphics card.

Oh well.
 
Well I guess I won't be recieving any OpenCL love. I have a iMac C2D, 2.16 GHz with an ATI Radeon X1600 graphics card.

Oh well.

I am in the same boat. And which sucks even more is I got it a week before they updated the iMac line to the silver from the white (this was before I was introduced to MR) which I think had the possibility to have been updated to a graphics card that is in the SL/OpenCL compatible ones
 
I am in the same boat. And which sucks even more is I got it a week before they updated the iMac line to the silver from the white (this was before I was introduced to MR) which I think had the possibility to have been updated to a graphics card that is in the SL/OpenCL compatible ones

Well the thing is our computers are totally respectable, it's not like they're out of date or something, but I guess the graphics card is just not powerful enough because they don't mention why they don't support those other cards.
 
Hey, I just bought my iMac 2.8 24" this spring with the ATI 2600, and I'm not supported? That is stupid on Apple's part!
 
Who's screwing you over? Apple are advertising a product for sale that works on certain hardware. If you have that hardware and want what SL provides, then you buy it. If you don't have that hardware, then don't buy it. Simple. No one is forcing you to buy it. Your computer works now with the applications you have now.

Except for those of us who are using Tiger and want to upgrade to be able to use time machine. They have taken Leopard off the market, so I am now forced to pay for iLife 09 (which I don't use) and iWork 09 (which I purchased a few months ago), in order to be able to use the time machine backup.

Also, all the advertising indicated SL would be an advantage on multicore Intel chipped machines (I have a iMac C2Duo chip - late 2006). But according to this review http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1275 I wont have the hardware to to take advantage of most of SL's under the hood improvements.

I'm a bit grumpy at the moment :(
 
Anybody know if this will enable USB 2.0 on my G3 PowerBook? Or at least enable 802.11n? And what is hardware limitation mean? I'm still mad GPS doesn't work on my 2G iPhone!
 
Anybody know if this will enable USB 2.0 on my G3 PowerBook? Or at least enable 802.11n? And what is hardware limitation mean? I'm still mad GPS doesn't work on my 2G iPhone!

I love your avatar, but your not applying any with this question.

G3s are a subset of non-Intel machines. If only Intel machines will work yours will not.

Snow Leopard → Intel
~Intel
Therefore: ~Snow Leopard
 
I love your avatar, but your not applying any with this question.

G3s are a subset of non-Intel machines. If only Intel machines will work yours will not.

Snow Leopard → Intel
~Intel
Therefore: ~Snow Leopard

I'm assuming his post was meant to be taken in a sarcastic tone.
 
Anybody know if this will enable USB 2.0 on my G3 PowerBook? Or at least enable 802.11n? And what is hardware limitation mean? I'm still mad GPS doesn't work on my 2G iPhone!

Yes, it will do all that. Of course, you are correct to expect software updates to retroactively fix/update/reinstall/transmorgrophy your hardware.

Now that you have posted this, I'm sure Apple will get right on doing the same thing to all the older Macs as well, so every one else will be able to feel better and calm down.

Y'know, it's funny... people seem to want software to magically upgrade their hardware, so they don't have to buy anything. If that were the case, we'd all still have :apple:IIe's. With color screens, quad-cores, BluRay, running SnowLeopard.

The point Mr. Spock made (subtly and well) is that software not only does not upgrade hardware, it also does not render your current hardware suddenly obsolete.

Now if you will excuse me, I just discovered that diamonds are nothing more than carbon. I'm going to go open a bag of charcoal and curse Kingsford for not shipping diamonds instead. They should give me the upgrade...
 
The point Mr. Spock made (subtly and well) is that software not only does not upgrade hardware, it also does not render your current hardware suddenly obsolete.

Heh, heh... You're joking right? We all know that you have to sell whatever computer you have right before Apple does any events, because as soon as anyone gets on stage it will rewrite its own EFI to burn out the chips, right?

Right? :eek:;)
 
Heh, heh... You're joking right? We all know that you have to sell whatever computer you have right before Apple does any events, because as soon as anyone gets on stage it will rewrite its own EFI to burn out the chips, right?

Right? :eek:;)

Yes, TS. That is exactly correct. Oh, here, this round is on me...
 

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This thread is funny. To the OP, before you start complaining, you should understand how the underlying hardware works.

You should do some research on CUDA and the AMD Stream engine stuff. Then you will understand why openCL only works on certian cards.

Multitouch is also a hardware issue.
 
I see, but that still does not include all intel macs

the original intel macs had intel graphics chips integraged. they are crap and found on the cheapest of the cheap windows PC's.

OpenCL needs a good graphics card which means ATI/AMD or Nvidia which have their own software to get the most from their products. Intel just writes a basic driver.
 
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