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No sign at all of family sharing, which is what I really want.

Soooo is the sharing data option live yet? or no?
Is it only available for people on iOS 11?? or what?
I'm curious as well if anyone has tried the 200GB option to see if it is already set up to share across family members even with iOS 10. I'll be consolidating four Apple IDs each paying $.99 down to a single 200GB plan, which will save $.97/month. Eventually upgrading to the top tier of data storage is much easier to stomach when it can be shared across the family group.
 
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This simply isnt true. Google doesn't sell your data. They use your data to offer personalized ads, for instance (you can turn this off too), but that is something different. Your data is kept private and not shared with anyone without your explicit approval,

Not happy with Google using your data to serve up ads? That's fine. But don't repeat the baloney lie that they sell your data to other companies. It simply isn't true.

https://privacy.google.com/how-ads-work.html

I stand corrected, but if Google is reading your data, doesn’t that mean that it’s not private?
 
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It's worth pointing out I think, that when you sign into google photos it signs you into everything!
Meaning everything you've ever signed up to google for is then live and recording what you do.
Also, they take copyright over anything you post to their site. They say they would never use anything without your permission but even so, they legally have the right to do what they decide to do with it, and that includes giving it to unspecified third parties.

It's a bit of a shock the first time you realise you've been signed in everywhere for a couple of days because you haven't noticed. Plus, you might want to leave google photos on to automatically back up. But it won't let you only be signed into photos.
Plus, google are a marketing led company not a hardware led company.
If you just stop and think for a minute about the picture they can build about you: they have your location wherever you are, every search you do, photos of your family- with facial recognition and the right to use them- all your contacts both personal and work with all their addresses, emails and numbers, your credit card number if you've ever used it on google play and everything you've ever sent by email if you have gmail. I've probably forgotten something.
OK, maybe it doesn't matter but it still makes me feel very uncomfortable.
I've gone down the route of having my own server and storing and sharing everything there. It's a bigger investment but it'll work out cheaper in a couple of years and it's all locked up and belongs to just me and mine, password protected, encrypted....

Same story with Android. Every single app requires every single permission on your device regardless. It's pathetic.
 
Completely disagree with that.. maybe they should have a shared folder.. but if I decide to upload my entire desktop or documents to it.. I don't want my little sister to be able to go in and change and see everything that I have. Nor anyone else on my account.

You're not getting this.

You decide on which folders are shared/collaborated on. Like Dropbox. Or One Drive.
You decide which 'Albums' act as a shared folder that anyone can contribute to.
Nobody will be able to see the folders you don't share. Any user, or family member can decide which folders they share. Or Don't.

It's fairly easy.
 
No, I mean extra storage for bigger phones could be _included_ in the price, not added.

That's two sides of the same coin. They could lower their margins by including it, but have little incentive to. There isn't a mass market of people screaming for cheaper backups. There aren't competitors that have a better offering. There aren't many people clamoring for it.
 
That .99 tier is so stupid. I can't begin to tell you the number of people I know who have the "not enough storage" error on their iPhone/iPad. I tell them to either pay up or use Google Photos (it's almost always photos eating up the backup space). They don't want to do either, so they just don't let it back up. Then I try again on Google Photos. The ones who take me up on the offer end up loving it and can actually back up their phone again. And if they take 1,453,643 photos and videos, they are all backed up for free, forever.

So then, when their phone gets run over, they lose everything. I mean, it's their fault, but 99 cents for 50gig Apple? Please. Should have storage to match the device for free. 256 iPad? 256 free. 32gig iPhone? 32 gig free.

Nobody likes being nickled and dimed. Apple is outdated in this arena and just thinks it's customers will pay yet another recurring monthly fee. Nope.

I get the not enough storage constantly on my wifes phone and I cannot sort it out. Nothing is set to backup, everything is turned off which means there are defaults that are trying to backup. My phones settings are the same as hers yet her's takes up a ton more space than mine. I'm thinking its text messages and it is trying to backup images within text messages (which is stupid). But even clearing those out doesn't free it all up so I have given up on trying. We use google photos to backup our photos which is all we care about because apple supplies such small amount of space. But now that apple is offering 2TB for the same price as googles 1TB I'm tempted, but what to do with all the images already backed up on one service but not on the phones anymore. Its an issue. I'll probably pull all google photos down to a laptop and then push them up to icloud.
 
This is is not helpful. I'm very slowly pushing up against my 200GB limit as my photo library grows, but have no need for 1TB, much less 2TB. Would it kill them to offer a 500GB tier at $5/month?
 
I was wondering that as well. During the presentation they put up a screen showing all the new additional features and "Family iCloud sharing" was on there. Hmmmm

All their "family" stuff sucks. Honestly, the only thing they got right was the sharing of apps. Don't get even get me started on their "family" photo sharing.

As always, buy them for the hardware, not their services. Far better and cheaper services out there.
 
I'm also always telling people that you can download photos off your iPhone to a computer like any other digital camera and I get stupefied looks. I hate when people blast iPhones because of that error. It's not Apple's fault that you bought the lowest storage phone and then took 200 pictures a day and never deleted any. I'll be interested to see how their new file compression for photos helps things.
The problem really isn't uploading photos to the computer, it's sorting the photos and downloading the ones you want to see onto your phone. It's Why oh why can't I tag a photo with a keyword on my iPhone?!?!?!?!?

But regardless, I might bite on the new $10 plan.$120/year is going to be a tough sell to the Finance Minister, but getting access to ALL our photos anytime/anywhere may just do the trick.
 
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Cool. They look fantastic and indiscernible from the originals to me. All good for my specific use case. You clearly have much more important requirements, so Apple is standing by to help you out. Everyone's happy with choices!
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Ominous!!1

Don't care. I'm a super duper risk taker. Tough guy, some say.

I've been hearing these internet warnings for over a decade. Still waiting on what I'm deserving of. Exciting and can't wait for the day to come!
Ok, so you don't care if your images are manipulated, good for you, you're definitely not the user Apple cares about. I want my images exactly like how they were shot, I am happily paying 0.99$ a month for that, super cheap.
 
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I personally think that the 50 GB for $.99 is more of a principle kind of thing.

Essentially, they're saying we're not going to offer a free large file store service where we subsidize it by ads and snooping on you.

I'm sure they must realize that charging $.99 is borderline ridiculous, but it's about the principles!

The $0.99 tier introduces people to the concept of paying Apple a recurring free. Once you get used to it, it's a not such a big leap to pay more for the next tier, because you've been enjoying Apple's 'Services' value-prop for a while.
 
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So has this gone live yet?
I'm not seeing the Family Sharing deal.
Or is this just available to Beta users?
 
That .99 tier is so stupid. I can't begin to tell you the number of people I know who have the "not enough storage" error on their iPhone/iPad. I tell them to either pay up or use Google Photos (it's almost always photos eating up the backup space). They don't want to do either, so they just don't let it back up. Then I try again on Google Photos. The ones who take me up on the offer end up loving it and can actually back up their phone again. And if they take 1,453,643 photos and videos, they are all backed up for free, forever.

So then, when their phone gets run over, they lose everything. I mean, it's their fault, but 99 cents for 50gig Apple? Please. Should have storage to match the device for free. 256 iPad? 256 free. 32gig iPhone? 32 gig free.

Nobody likes being nickled and dimed. Apple is outdated in this arena and just thinks it's customers will pay yet another recurring monthly fee. Nope.

The .99 plan is awesome. Its for people who would not otherwise utilize iCloud. I have it for both my parents, as a no-brainer backup for their iPads. Its more than enough for what they use it for.

I even ended up getting it for myself, even though I used to prefer backing up locally with iTunes. Once I did get it, I ended up using it quite a bit. When the family plan comes around, I might switch to the $2.99 200GB plan and combine all our storage.
 
I also do the $.99 option. And now have it for wife and kids.

It's the "I don't really need much space, but need more than 5gb" and "don't really want to pay but this would make life easier" option. Cause backing up to the Mac is a pain in the arse. No doubt they didn't make that a priority.

Sad thing is now it makes this 2 TB family sharing option look like a bargain lol. And I'll probably move up to that if I can move everything to it seamlessly. And then I'll put our Mac photo libraries on it as well.
 
That .99 tier is so stupid. I can't begin to tell you the number of people I know who have the "not enough storage" error on their iPhone/iPad. I tell them to either pay up or use Google Photos (it's almost always photos eating up the backup space). They don't want to do either, so they just don't let it back up. Then I try again on Google Photos. The ones who take me up on the offer end up loving it and can actually back up their phone again. And if they take 1,453,643 photos and videos, they are all backed up for free, forever.

So then, when their phone gets run over, they lose everything. I mean, it's their fault, but 99 cents for 50gig Apple? Please. Should have storage to match the device for free. 256 iPad? 256 free. 32gig iPhone? 32 gig free.

Nobody likes being nickled and dimed. Apple is outdated in this arena and just thinks it's customers will pay yet another recurring monthly fee. Nope.
Google charges $2/month for 100 with no lower tier. Apple $.99 for 50 or $3/month for 200. Seems pretty good and files are retained at full size. For an average user who doesn't want Google optimizing their files and seeing all their stuff (i.e. free photo storage), $3 or $36/year is pretty reasonable.
 
If you want to trust Google with your files/data, no one is stopping you.

Although I agree Apple really should provide more value for money on the lower tiers, including the free tier. Offering a measly 5 GB free after someone spends hundreds or even thousands on Apple hardware is pathetic.

Yep!

Unlike Google, Dropbox, Box, OneDrive, etcetera etcetera, Apple had made TONS of money off of selling hardware. And now they want to charge us ridiculous amounts for storing OUR OWN PHOTOS and now MESSAGES???

Insulting. My only hope is that they're doing this because they are paying Google and AWS for their iCloud. I wish they'd just come out and say:

"We have to charge you now, but soon you will be able to save 5Tb in the cloud forever FOR FREE if you've bought any Apple hardware."

I've got over 2 TB of photos after two decades of children growing up. Not only is Apple failing to support me materially with their skimpy plans, but in Tim Cook's promise of keeping photos forever.

Also note that every time Apple drops the price it's on the heels of a storage requirements increase.

Last time they dropped prices, they introduced Live Photos. So probably they actually probably doubled the storage requirements.

Now they're putting Messages on iCloud on ios11. Did they mention whether they were free or not? Maybe not doubling but more stuff in the cloud.

Also "Files". Terabytes and Terabytes more to store, miniscule drop in the gouging prices...

So in yesterday's keynote, Apple went after HoloLens, Paypal, Snapcash, Square, Sonos, Alexa, Google Home...

Yet they don't take on Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, One Drive? I'm starting to think it's an anti-monopoly issue...

C'mon Apple. FREE FIVE TERABYTES! When is it coming???

Thanks!
 
Has there actually been any verification that iCloud storage will be allowed to be shared among family members? I still haven't seen anything from them about this
 
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