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Apple Drops Price of Mac Mini Internationally

The natural balance is reestablished :)
It always was $ = € (as 1€ is already $1.25), then they rised the prices of all products by 17€. The Mini is even 8€ cheaper now.

Bad for us who bought the Mini in June… :rolleyes: As the resell value dropped by 100€ as well, I rather buy an iMac next time to prevent this.

KnightWRX said:
Why would the i3 sell for more ? It would have much worse performance because of the GPU. I'd sell the i3 model for less if anything. nVidia GPU trumps Intel GPU all day long.
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Exactly. Apple likely won't ship it without discrete 330M graphics, and that raises the price.
 
0815 said:
Apple ... entry-level product ??? Get real ...

If you want to buy cheap entry level garbage with stripped down features and/or cheap components, you have to go somewhere else.
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But that's what the original Mac Mini was. Here in Sweden I bought the most expensive Mini for around 4200 SEK (I can't remember the exact figure, but it was definitely less that 5000). It was my first ever Mac and I bought it as a toy to try it out. An expensive toy, but it was on the threshold of what I would accept.

The cheapest Mac Mini in Sweden right now is 6995 SEK. That's an increase of at least 50% on the price of the original Mini.
 
KnightWRX said:
Why would the i3 sell for more ? It would have much worse performance because of the GPU. I'd sell the i3 model for less if anything. nVidia GPU trumps Intel GPU all day long.
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Most laptops with i3s tend to have a separate gpu with the exception of cheap models. I guess Apple would want to make room for a separate gpu in any upgrade to the mini. I don't know if they would have to do that I'm just reflecting back on some threads from earlier this year as to why the i3 hadn't appeared in the macbook, mini etc. I would love to see the mini tho at a slightly lower price. Plus I would like to see it a bit more visible in stores which purport to sell the apple range
 
KnightWRX said:
It's funny how "PC Pro" doesn't offer any comparison to other SFF PCs out there, the Dell Studio Hybrid being more expensive than a similarly configuered mini.

There just isn't a lot of competition in the market.
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Well, considering they've dropped the price - even with limited competition they weren't selling as many as they wanted to. That must say something about the price point.

ETA: PC Pro gave the Dell Hybrid 2/6 for value and 3/6 overall - the verdict was not powerful enough and too expensive.
 
iStudentUK said:
That is an EU directive not a regulation so it is not directly effective. This is a common misconception, an EU directive is basically an instruction to the member states to enact legislation that gives the effect intended.

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Did you bother to read the link I quoted? It pretty well said exactly what you've just said.
 
Pricing hasn't changed in Australia which sucks since the Aust dollar is on par with the US dollar, why should we have to pay more.
 
RandomJunk said:
Well, considering they've dropped the price - even with limited competition they weren't selling as many as they wanted to. That must say something about the price point.
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They didn't drop the price in the US/Canada/Australia. What this says to me is that the price was too high compared to the currency conversions more than because of competition.

Mal67 said:
Most laptops with i3s tend to have a separate gpu with the exception of cheap models. I guess Apple would want to make room for a separate gpu in any upgrade to the mini.
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Those laptops are huge by comparison, though you might have a point with the Sony Vaio Z. Of course, the entry price on one of those is 1799$ for a 13"...
 
KnightWRX said:
It's funny how "PC Pro" doesn't offer any comparison to other SFF PCs out there, the Dell Studio Hybrid being more expensive than a similarly configuered mini.

There just isn't a lot of competition in the market.

PC Magazines are trash, even the "most respected" ones.
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PC Pro are pretty fair when it comes to Apple. They usually include Apple products in group tests where applicable. They've been known to (pettily) whinge about things like no HDD activity lights, but that is just a minor thing in the scheme of things.

The Dell Studio Hybrid got a kicking when they reviewed it for many of the same reasons as the Mac mini - http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/desktops/220890/dell-studio-hybrid
 
firestarter said:
Did you bother to read the link I quoted? It pretty well said exactly what you've just said.
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Yes, and I have seen that article before.

Did you read what you said? You said- EU law says otherwise. Not true. UK law says otherwise, and has said so since 1979, well before the 1999 directive.

Plus, other posters have been mentioning the EU warranty issue. I'm not deliberately picking on you. Just want people to realise they shouldn't go around quoting directives as if they are direct law.
 
WiiDSmoker said:
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They really need to drop the price in the U.S.
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Exactly...they RAISE the price?...what other reason than "we're Apple"...the specs are borderline ok...and since Apple only refreshes once every 300+ days, it's not worth it today for $699.

I was in the market for a new Mini (my Sep 2007 Mini is still great) but it's just not worth $700 for a keyboard-less, mouse-less, lcd-less machine with a weak 5400RPM drive. Glad Apple can convince some (obviously not many if they are dropping prices) to overspend...but not me.
 
logistics and taxes

Hey guys,
escpecially GroundLoop and G77:

The logistic is not the reason for the price. According to studies on google, the percentage of the costs are around 5%.
I just read in my newspaper the costs for the shipping, which are in the cents region (<10).
Additionally the most important markets in Europe (Germany, France, England) do have extremely centered regions, where the routes and companies are more than prepared for some computers to be delivered.
I really don't get, why people on the other side of the Atlantic still think we're Developping Countries...

Back to the price: It increased from 499€ (first NVidea 9400M), to 549€ (9400M, 2GB Ram) to 799€ or even 809€ (Germany)for the Unibody.
Based on 1,40$ per 1€ that's more than 400$ or nearly 40% in a year!
They had to decrease the price.

And like you all know, you can't get along with the minimun specs. So if you buy the cheapest, with a 500GB storage and for the people who don't want to change RAM on their on with 4 GB Ram its still 889 € (nearly 1250$).
Don't tell me about taxes.
That's simply too much for the little improvements on design and interiour. BTW for me the new one is flat but long...
If they don't move back to the old prices, I will change the RAM in the meanwhile and put a SSD inside and have to wait for the next Dollar Crash. The first HedgeFonds are already betting against it...

P.S.: Sorry, had to tip it twice, hope I didn't forget anything...
 
mdgm said:
I rated the story negative. With the current Aussie dollar one would think a price around $799 AUD would be appropriate.
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You rated negative? Ha, that's a first for a new registered member. :rolleyes:
 
The Mac Mini is still too expensive and hence a niche product.
The base model upgraded to 4GB costs £680 whereas the 13in Macbook Pro costs £999 (not to mention you can get in off amazon for £900), and an iMac also costs £999 (£950 amazon), both of which are much better products than the mini.
 
Bout goddamn time. Still way overpriced for C2D hardware, but a welcome price reduction.
 
Aphorism said:
Hey guys,
escpecially GroundLoop and G77:

The logistic is not the reason for the price. According to studies on google, the percentage of the costs are around 5%.
I just read in my newspaper the costs for the shipping, which are in the cents region (<10).
Additionally the most important markets in Europe (Germany, France, England) do have extremely centered regions, where the routes and companies are more than prepared for some computers to be delivered.
I really don't get, why people on the other side of the Atlantic still think we're Developping Countries...
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Logistics are just one small part of doing business outside your home country. As stated before, there needs to be a team dedicated to running the business in each of those countries (understanding the laws/regulations/directives). There are teams that need to work intellectual property issues. There are the costs of sales (additional online store, establishment of retails stores, retail employees, etc).

All of these and more vary from country to country. I agree with you that logistics is a very small portion of the delta, but that, combined with the above and other items not mentioned, can easily add up to 10-15% of the sales price of an item. It is very dependent on sales volume. The more you sell in a country, the lower the sales price needs to be.

GL
 
One last push for Core 2 Duo

in US, we might see a price drop on thanks giving sale (one day sale) ...

i think this year thanksgiving sale there will be few items on sales to clear out the core 2 duo mac mini, 13" macbook, 13" MBP

eventually all these replace with SSD in march refresh (and hence margin drops)
 
GroundLoop said:
If the country has a smaller sales base, then the infrastructure costs per unit are higher than in a country with a larger market. This results in a higher unit cost in smaller markets.
GL
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Then please explain why other IT tech manufacturers (computers / cameras / TVs / cellphones) don't add that much of a price premium internationally.
In times of global marketing + sales / streamlining of EU laws, the unit costs can't be 15-20% higher in Europe, or else Apple would be an extremely inefficient global company. I really doubt that this is the case.

Truth is, Apple is much more of a mainstream manufacturer in the US, and more high-end in other regions. And we all know you can charge more for high-end because a lot of people buying high-end don't care about price.
 
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