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That was a straw man: there's a direct USB-C to Ethernet dongle that costs less than the TB2-to-3 adapter alone.
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Actually, that is one piece of genuine good news: remember, the 27" iMac got Skylake chips last year, and AFAIK there's no suitable Kaby Lake chip for it yet, so it's not a bad purchase, especially if you're not ready to convert your life to USB-C...
Is the direct USB-C to ethernet Apples dongle or a third party dongle?
 
Is the direct USB-C to ethernet Apples dongle or a third party dongle?

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HJKF2ZM/A/belkin-usb-c-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter?fnode=58

Its Belkin - but its in the Apple Store so maybe you can have some confidence that it is compatible.

Startech also do one:

https://www.startech.com/Networking-IO/usb-network-adapters/usb-c-gigabit-adapter~US1GC30B

Or you can have one with an extra USB-A port thrown in:

https://www.startech.com/Networking-IO/usb-network-adapters/usb-c-gigabit-network-adapter~US1GC301AU

More likely, though, since most ethernet users will need it on the desktop & can live with WiFi on the road, people will go for a dock to give them single-wire hookup:

http://www.caldigit.com/usb-3-1-usb-c-dock/

...just need to give it a few weeks to confirm MacBook Pro capability (e.g. does it have the grunt to charge one) & whether the MBPs with their beefier GPUs will support MST & multiple displays over USB-C (as opposed to Thunderbolt 3).
 
Is there actually a major difference between the most recent Xeon CPUs and what is in the Mac Pro currently? Is it possible they think that recent improvements have simply not been major enough to warrant a new release? Honest question, I have no idea what the Xeon roadmap is like.

Most Mac Pro users need a GPU upgrade. Also, most of us hate the new form factor and are hoping Apple goes back to a tower style Mac Pro. The current trash can design is so horrible and lacks the ability to expand. It's essentially a screenless iMac, which is really dumb.
 
Thanks for the crumbs Apple... I can buy a 36 core E5v4 Dell for less than a 12 core E5v2 MacPro. But hey, now I can upgrade my drive to 512MB for a couple hundred less... oooh ahhh. Your flagship model has become a complete joke to the industry. Its actually embarrassing to have to talk about them when PC guys come in to the office laughing.

Either Update them or kill them. This is badly hurting Apple's name and reputation. This is the most inept, disgusting management I've seen at Apple in 32 years... I can't believe they are forcing us loyal pros to switch. I'm actually devastated that this is happening.

I'm hanging on until the end of November as per a UK rumour site saying their reliable sources indicate MacPro's will be released before then. Not holding on to much hope at this point because every other rumour site says the opposite.
Macworld UK is a joke! Dont believe them! They have been updating the same article since two years with rumors never happened! That website is not reliable!
 
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My buddy has a hot-rodded MacPro Tower (a real Mac, not a Hackintosh) that smokes my 2013 trashcan MacPro. We ran all the test benchmarks and did some major renders in After Effects. It's about twice as fast. His machine was $1600. (which included buying the tower). Thinking of doing one myself. The 2013 MacPro is cool and all, but so is power which Apple apparently has given up on. :(
 
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check out their refurbished store and check out reseller listings. however, it's literally getting harder every day to purchase actually usable Apple hardware (with decent specs) for a fair price. - refurb store is typically updated Sundays and Wednesdays. if you are looking for high-end laptops be prepared to wait for a few weeks to see an appropriate offer.

the apple store offers $100 discounts on $3000 at their best, then you have to add taxes. sorry no way !
 
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i dont know how they can even still ship them? Intel has certainly discontinued them by now???
I work in HPC, and they are available, but a tad hard to source, and they are more expansive than the v3 or v4's. I'm sure they cut a deal with Intel, but still..
 
Now I can finally afford one! Thanks Apple, I'm going to place my order immediately! :rolleyes:
 
New iMacs are in the pipeline, its overdue a redesign too

I think TC has that pipe clogged. He keeps talking about the pipeline, so far the only thing coming out has been crap. Well, in relative to older Apple products.

I wonder if they are going to make it as think as the Surface Studio?
Based off of Apple Lately, the new iMac will look just like the Surface Studio, and Apple will call it innovation.

I hope I am wrong.
 
Out of curiosity I looked up the price that I payed in 2014 for a 2.8 GHz, 16 GByte RAM, 512 GByte SSD, 13' rMB on our University Apple Store and compared it to a similar 'all ports included' model currently on the store.

Jikes, the current 2.7 GHz model costs me about 115 Euro MORE than what I payed two years ago and the 2.9 GHz model would add another 106 Euro. It runs a slightly more modern processor and the RAM speed is a tad higher. Probably nothing what I would notice in daily use.
I would hate to be in the market for a new laptop computer...
Exactly. While everyone else is dropping SSD prices, Apple is throwing on a proprietary interface that is marginally faster and using it as an excuse to increase prices. What really blew my mind were the benchmarks that have been coming out over the last few days. The base model non Touch Bar MBP clocks around what the base model 2014 or 2013 MBP pulled down. That's ridiculous. Yes there were a little thicker, but you can pick an older MBP up for under a grand fully spec' on eBay right now, some still with the original packaging.
 
I just put together a hack for just under $1500 that's on par with the 3.5GHz Mac Pro (it actually scores better in single-core benchmarks and same in multi-core). Similar specs on the Mac Pro bring the cost to $5799, mostly due to the exorbitant cost of storage and memory.
 
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I just put together a hack for just under $1500 that's on par with the 3.5GHz Mac Pro (it actually scores better in single-core benchmarks and same in multi-core). Similar specs on the Mac Pro bring the cost to $5799, mostly due to the exorbitant cost of storage and memory.
That's very telling. Just shows the obscene profit margin Apple is getting for its hardware.
 
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RIP Mac Pro. When it was announced they made a major announcement of having it assembled in the US, and I am curious of the current state/future plans of that factory/assembly line.
 
You know, with Steve you got arrogance and great products to back it up, now that he's gone you just get arrogance, old tech, with new explanations. Forget making my Laptop thin make it useful. For the kicks of it put a 15inch MacBook Pro in a Apple cart and chose all the upgrade options and ended up with a $4299 Laptop. I mean really ? WTF is wrong with Apple they have really taken the Rich get Richer and the Dumb get Dumber approach lately. and sadly some dummy somewhere right now is hitting that buy button. I can't, and if Microsoft keeps innovating with products like Surface Studio, Xbox Scorpio, Windows 10 etc. Apple can kiss where the sun don't shine. They clearly don't care.
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That's very telling. Just shows the obscene profit margin Apple is getting for its hardware.

Folks really need to wake up and stop buying this crap.
 
Moving the 21.5" iMac from regular 1TB drive to 512GB SSD adds $360 or about %25 to the cost of the machine. Cost online for 512 SSD is about $170..Their cost a good bit less.
That new facility they are building in California is being funded by re-packaging someone else's products and selling at an exorbitant rate.
 
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