Thanks for your opinion, it was great. If you have a device, they already come with warnings about magnets and radios. And Samsungs also have radios, EMF and you can’t bring them close either, sorry but facts are facts
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Apple Elaborates on Potential for iPhone 12 and MagSafe Accessories to Interfere With Implantable Medical Devices
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Right, but MagSafe is different. If your phone really has the power to completely stop your pacemaker, I think that deserves a big, hard-to-miss warning either on the box or within the paperwork inside the box. Just to be sure anyone who might be at risk is fully aware.
Source?
Anyway, the whole point of MagSafe is that the connector at the bottom of the phone is irrelevant. So your wild assumption about Apple's motivation wouldn't quite make sense even if it were true.
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Since the launch of iPhone 12 models in October, Apple has acknowledged that the devices may cause electromagnetic interference with medical devices like pacemakers and defibrillators, but the company has now shared additional information.
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Apple added the following paragraph to a related support document today:While the support document already mentioned "MagSafe accessories" in the title, Apple has further emphasized that accessories like the MagSafe Charger and MagSafe Duo Charger may also interfere with medical devices:Apple continues to state that while all iPhone 12 models contain more magnets than prior iPhone models, they are "not expected to pose a greater risk of magnetic interference to medical devices than prior iPhone models."
Earlier this month, an article in the Heart Rhythm Journal indicated that iPhone 12 models can "potentially inhibit lifesaving therapy in a patient" due to magnetic interference with implantable medical devices. Three doctors in Michigan tested this interaction by holding an iPhone 12 near a patient's implantable cardioverter defibrillator, which immediately went into a "suspended" state for the duration of the test, according to the article.
"We hereby bring an important public health issue concerning the newer generation iPhone 12 which can potentially inhibit lifesaving therapy in a patient particularly while carrying the phone in upper pockets," the doctors wrote. "Medical device manufacturers and implanting physicians should remain vigilant in making patients aware of this significant interaction of the iPhone 12 and other smart wearables with their cardiac implantable electronic devices."
The article in the Heart Rhythm Journal was first surfaced by Brazilian website MacMagazine.
Apple provides more information in the "Important safety information for iPhone" section of the iPhone User Guide.
Article Link: Apple Elaborates on Potential for iPhone 12 and MagSafe Accessories to Interfere With Implantable Medical Devices
Someone close to me has a pacemaker. She was warned to use her mobile phone in the opposite ear to the side her pacemaker is. But many people who have a pacemaker are also of an age where remembering such issues is not easy.
To exacerbate that problem with magsafe is an issue for some people who will not read this website or hear from elsewhere. A benefit for many does not out-weight a cause of death for a few. i hope there is some way to detect the presence of a pacemaker or other potential issue, and provide a warning.
To exacerbate that problem with magsafe is an issue for some people who will not read this website or hear from elsewhere. A benefit for many does not out-weight a cause of death for a few. i hope there is some way to detect the presence of a pacemaker or other potential issue, and provide a warning.
I’m very surprised by this information. This is a big concern that Apple should have fully considered before implementing in one of their most popular devices. MagSafe makes more sense with their MacBook line. Most I know who have the iPhone 12 hate MagSafe as it makes it more difficult to remove their iPhone from the charger - myself included with my 12 Pro. I understand that not placing the phone precisely on some wireless chargers may not charge the device but that’s just a matter of owners being more aware. The specific charging coiling system integrated with the magnetic connector creates a stronger signal and pattern that has been proven to interfere with medical implants and owners with pacemakers never had a problem with iPhones held to their head until the 12. Now they have to either use a wired or bluetooth headphones or hold the phone on their right side as pacemakers generally are implanted via the left side of the chest. Keeping in mind, the distance has been proven to impact devices as far as 12-16" and only the iPhone 12 has this issue.
Regulatory bodies should have caught this during development. Personally, I would rather MagSafe be left out of the next iPhone line.
Regulatory bodies should have caught this during development. Personally, I would rather MagSafe be left out of the next iPhone line.
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Apples and oranges. The magnet's are very strong. Read the medical research on this matter or simply scan the AMA's official release. I don't know if USB-C was a factor, that doesn't matter, what does matter is the specific charging coiling system integrated with the magnetic connector creates a stronger signal and pattern that has been proven to interfere with medical implants. As pacemakers aren't too far from holding a phone to ones head this wasn't a problem that anyone created, it was found by users who experienced the disruption.
Let's not get carried away and please be respectful of others. I know we are all tense these days, "Ben".
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Wow I hadn’t even considered the implications of people throwing the 12 series phones in their pockets!
Devices that May Interfere with ICDs and Pacemakers
Several types of devices and machinery may interfere with implantable cardioverter.
Something curious about the iPhone in the article image. The case with MagSafe and the new-style plastic rim around the camera opening implies it’s of the iPhone 12 generation, the three cameras say it’s a Pro, the microphone hole is in the right place for a 12 Pro, but there’s no sign of the LiDAR sensor. Did someone jam one of the case manufacturer dummies in a production case?
Excellent point. This also interferes with other medical implants. My mum has a spinal cord stimulator implant in her lower back and she cannot use her 12 in her pockets and has to be careful if it's in her purse as it shuts down the implant that regulates the threads. She has spinal stenosis and years of being active she has little cartilage in her vertebrae. She was unaware of this until recently. She noticed she had to increase the strength and didn't know why until her specialist saw her iPhone 12 and informed us.
I think you need to do more research. That is not it at all
Pump the hate brakes. You've been all over people and the disrespect you're showing is uncalled for if not against forum TOS. If someone is misinformed, then kindly inform them. The articles referenced and from others in the comments section have explained the situation including the AMA and other regulatory bodies. If you have information to the contrary then please inform us and Apple as I'm sure we would all benefit greatly and do so with the same respect you would show a stranger on the street. I realize we're all tense during these trying days, don't take it out on others online.
As stated in both the main article and the video I linked,
medical devices that enter a "suspended" state which are required for lifesaving therapy sounds pretty bad to me. but sure.
Yeah, the reintroduction of MagSafe seems half baked, almost as if they contrived the products to complement the trademark rather than market a product consumers will be satisfied with.
They sell lightning to magnetic USB connectors on Amazon for a few bucks. I was skeptical at first and then I tried one. It works just like MagSafe should
It’s not that serious. These patients are generally well educated. Is there any risk? Yes. Is the risk high enough that Apple has any obligation to do something about it aside from perhaps education more obvious than the fine print? Not in my opinion. These people are at risk from many common/household encounters, not just Apple products. Provide adequate education and that's that.
Edit:ed the second half of my comment but the sentiment is identical. And you can dislike this all you want, but it's just reality. And if any of you had knowledge about pacemakers/defibrillators or even the thought to research something for yourself, you'd learn that a magnet doesn't simply shut off a pacemaker. There's a lot more to it. Including but not limited to you generally have to leave the magnet there for a period of time, and the device either resumes normal functioning or simply resets to a generally safe "default" setting that may not be specific/fine-tuned to the patients exact needs. You guys are commenting like you just go into cardiac arrest and die if the magnet rests directly on their chest for a brief period of time. Couple an alignment of the planets up with extensive patient education and you have a very low risk situation.
Edit:ed the second half of my comment but the sentiment is identical. And you can dislike this all you want, but it's just reality. And if any of you had knowledge about pacemakers/defibrillators or even the thought to research something for yourself, you'd learn that a magnet doesn't simply shut off a pacemaker. There's a lot more to it. Including but not limited to you generally have to leave the magnet there for a period of time, and the device either resumes normal functioning or simply resets to a generally safe "default" setting that may not be specific/fine-tuned to the patients exact needs. You guys are commenting like you just go into cardiac arrest and die if the magnet rests directly on their chest for a brief period of time. Couple an alignment of the planets up with extensive patient education and you have a very low risk situation.
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You get a very through education in your device, before and after it’s implanted. Mine is due for a replacement. There’s nothing new here.