Whilst I feel there may be more vectors, there’s less information shared in a single place.
The problem with having all of the information in the same place is obvious.
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Apple Eliminates Separate Binary Requirement for Dutch Dating Apps Accepting Alternative Payments
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The problem with having all of the information in the same place is obvious.
I really hoped they would pull the plug on that and **** Netherlands all together. 😕
Pulling out of one EU country isn't going to magically solve Apple's issues on that continent -- or worldwide
That's not a solution
Someone on a previous article comment suggested something… upon launch offer the user the option to either continue launching iOS or make it so that the phone is wiped out and open to install any third party operating system the user sees fit.
Sounds perfect on paper, after accepting that the responsibility is 100% on the user and third parties can do absolutely whatever they want: all sort of app stores, face/touch id enhancements (i.e don’t wait for apple to go around masks and Face ID), custom GPU/Bluetooth/etc drivers, and everything in between if you will.
Heck, third parties could also offer any sort of tooling that they see fit.
If the talk is about “I want to do with my phone whatever I want”, then I don’t see how maximum freedom and customizability would be met with disdain.
@Tomhauber can you explain why you disagree with my comment stating that apps should run in a sandbox?
I disagree. Plus if you’re paying for a dating app in the first play you’re getting scammed.
Luckily I haven’t been there!
Out of interest, why do you think it’s not a step in a right direction in the spirit of the law?
Won’t be long until we have other app stores and payment systems here.
I personally don’t agree with a lot of the EU proposal, from what I understand this dating app thing isn’t apart of that, however, and correct me if I’m wrong but the Netherlands is a part of the EU right. I think this sets a president that apple should and will make these changes the EU wants. I think a lot of these changes aren’t good for the everyday iPhone consumer. I think changes like this make things more difficult for the consumer, sacrifice privacy, and make for an overall bad experience. I can elaborate more but I figured I’d keep it simple.
I understand that. Yes the Netherlands is a member state. I would feel that this sets precedence as you said and is likely to become EU-wide especially given the harmonization of the digital market.
Spotify recently complained they didn’t have the money to pay artist any more and then bought naming rights to a stadium for $310 million
I’d rather trust one company with my data and have it leak. Than trust 40 companies and have them all leak it.
I actually don’t know what’s better, on one hand, Apple can leak so much information about you (purchases, devices etc) on the other hand a payment processor doesn’t get nearly as much information about the transaction.
I was trying to reply to someone about PCI stuff, a lot of websites are e-commerce, and already have established patterns of meeting a lower SAQ.
I’d argue this weakens your argument.
Here is a clip from that article, at least the verge one;
“Apple and Meta handed over user data to hackers who faked emergency data request orders typically sent by law enforcement, according to a report by Bloomberg. The slip-up happened in mid-2021, with both companies falling for the phony requests and providing information about users’ IP addresses, phone numbers, and home addresses.”
There shouldn’t be a reason for anyone to get this data even law enforcement. But because law enforcement can get this data no questions asked someone can easily do this.
Sorry, I’m missing you… how does it weaken my argument?
I agree that this shouldn’t be a thing though.
Personally I’m in the camp of not really caring if some purchase data is shared. I like a bit more personal ad experience. If I gotta see an ad I’d rather see something I like rather than a political ad or something annoying. Also apple says they don’t share that kind of data and until I see it happening I’ll trust it. And still I’m sure there is some data they release. You gotta give some privacy up to get some services.
Maybe it doesn’t weaken your argument but I don’t think that particular case was that bad. If it wasn’t the law that information needs to be given to law enforcement I don’t think this mistake would have been made. It’s not like apple knew they were giving it to the bad guy.
Side note: I feel like maybe I didn’t do much better explaining my point but let me know.
Apple please come home and let them innovate their own platforms.
Leon (watching Apple critics make fools of themselves since 1979)
Leon (watching Apple critics make fools of themselves since 1979)
This notion that the App Store provides “marketing” for apps is delusional for the overwhelming majority of apps. A new app that doesn’t already have an established customer base (think a longtime local bank publishing an app for the first time) and doesn’t pay for its own advertising is almost assured to go nowhere fast, unless it’s such an incredible app that Apple chooses to feature it from early on.
In either case, these are expenses that developers wishing to use alternative payment systems would likely be happy to take on themselves. Especially hosting, which is dirt cheap by now.
