Apple Employees Asked to Return to Offices for Three Days a Week Starting in September

[9927036]

Lol comparing working at Apple to a field where decisions could cost lives. I guess demanding is all relative.

Not sure why you...lol?

 

[9927036]

that sounds like a poor personal decision if one is driving 1.5 hrs to the office. 🤷‍♂️

Have you experienced the traffic in the Bay Area?

 

[noles1983]

AMC needs to keep doing its thing, soon enough I can tell my boss "fck off im not coming in, I retire"

 

[Act3]

You call being made to drive 1.5 hours to the office freedom? You have a perverted idea of freedom. Most professionals who work in offices are able to work from home with more productivity. If you can't, then drag your arse to the office.

One that chooses to live 1.5 hrs from the office is freedom.

 

[Act3]

Have you experienced the traffic in the Bay Area?

Nope. But those working there knew what they signed up for.

 

[sirozha]

We got a keyboard warrior. They issue dog tags for your keyboard heroism?

Who they?

 

[sirozha]

You sound pretty fragile. One that chooses to live 1.5 hrs from the office is freedom.

I guess you haven't lived in a major metro area in the US.

 

[sirozha]

Have you experienced the traffic in the Bay Area?

Of course, he hasn't. Not only in the Bay Area. In the top 10 major metro areas in the US, a 1.5 hour one-way commute was nothing extraordinary before the pandemic. Those who want to drag their employees back into offices are retrograde dumbasses. The only way to change it is to let them retire early.

 

[urnotl33t]

It really depends on the engineering job. As someone said earlier, a systems engineer in aerospace cannot in most cases. It's hard to take a Saturn 5B rocket home to work on the systems problem. 🤣

Ooooh yeah! You’d have the COOLEST kid in the neighborhood if you did that. “Think of your children!” 😆

 

[Act3]

I guess you haven't lived in a major metro area in the US.

i live 90 minutes from Tampa and Orlando. I work 20 minutes from my house. Freedom

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Here’s your incentive. You want a job? Go to work. Seems like a good incentive.

If Apple don't offer those kind of incentives there are other companies that will at similar salaries/options. If they're smart they will make the hybrid approach permanent to retain talent.

 

[sirozha]

i live 90 minutes from Tampa and Orlando. I work 20 minutes from my house. Freedom

What if you get laid off? Are you going to move for a job? Yeah, that's freaking freedom. Then again, moving to another apartment complex to get a job in another Starbucks may not be such a terrible thing after all.

 

[DesignTime]

Here’s your incentive. You want a job? Go to work. Seems like a good incentive.

You’re assuming that every job requires the “old school” thought that everyone must be in the same building or they aren’t working. Not every job and/or employee requires that old mindset. Imagine you’re completely self sufficient and have a job that requires/has very limited interaction with others to complete successfully. Why on earth would you want to waste your time driving to an office to sit in front of a computer when you can do everything remote? So your manager can see your smiling face? That sounds more like a manager trying to justify their job rather than an issue with working remote.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

You mean like the buses and other transportation that Apple and countless other Silicon Valley companies have offered the past 20 years or so?

Companies aren't going to start paying for peoples cars and gas plus time commuting. When it comes down to it, you want the top paying jobs, you're going to have to do what the employer wants.

Companies, especially ones like Apple, provide these benefits so employees perform better and are more satisfied with working there. If working from home some of the time makes an employee perform better and more efficient there is no reason not to. Talent at top companies generally have pretty good options in where they want to work. It's up to the company to retain them.

 

[DesignTime]

Nice try bro…I’m a millennial…but whatever helps you justify your expectation that you think you are more “productive “ at home chief

Why would you assume people are less productive at home? That sounds more like a personal issue with being productive and less of an issue with remote workers.

 

[Act3]

What if you get laid off? Are you going to move for a job? Yeah, that's freaking freedom. Then again, moving to another apartment complex to get a job in another Starbucks may not be such a terrible thing after all.

lol. no I’ll sell my paid off house , and move on. But I got 23 years union seniority where I work. Not too worried about being laid off and if I did , it’s two weeks pay for each year of service. I’ll survive. Things aren’t as pricey over here in Florida. And we have a Bay Area too.

 

[9927036]

that is politics causing that

I don't care why. I care that the teachers are not teaching.

 

[donguevas]

If I am a competing company, I am taking note and will offer more time working from home, even up to permanently. Once a lot of talent leaves Apple because of this reason, only then will they then be forced to change their policy.

I work for Apple, and I am not gonna reveal any thing secret. We brought all our staff home and paid them their wage to work from home, and then when they wanted to stay, they could stay.

 

[koruki]

They spent billions on that new campus in Cupertino and didn't really get to use it before the pandemic struck. Letting engineers work from home is not an option for Apple. However, it's pretty stupid that people will be dragged to the office in the Silicon Valley traffic three times per week simply to justify the existence of that office space. Selling it is not an option either. Who in their right mind in the Silicon Valley would want to buy a multi-billion dollar office space, whereas everyone has learned that working from home is much more productive?

more productive... not always... speaking as someone who has been working from home with gigabit fibre connection too

 

[sirozha]

lol. no I’ll sell my paid off house , and move on. But I got 23 years union seniority where I work. Not too worried about being laid off and if I did , it’s two weeks pay for each year of service. I’ll survive. Things aren’t as pricey over here in Florida. And we have a Bay Area too.

You are going to sell your house and move every time you change your job? What about your spouse? She must change her job too? Retire already.

 

[9927036]

Of course, he hasn't. Not only in the Bay Area. In the top 10 major metro areas in the US, a 1.5 hour one-way commute was nothing extraordinary before the pandemic. Those who want to drag their employees back into offices are retrograde dumbasses. The only way to change it is to let them retire early.

Agree about the 1.5 hour commutes. Horrible.

 

[9927036]

Ooooh yeah! You’d have the COOLEST kid in the neighborhood if you did that. “Think of your children!” 😆

LOL. Think of the neighborhood when you started the countdown to launch.

 

[9927036]

i live 90 minutes from Tampa and Orlando. I work 20 minutes from my house. Freedom

Right. You are not commuting in Tampa or Miami or Silicon Valley.

 

[dba415]

Lol 2 weeks work from anywhere? Isn’t google offering 4 weeks of the same thing? And Facebook is allowing full remote.

apple is lagging behind.

 

[TehFalcon]

Depends on the team and the manager.

Yeah, the underground parking, meditation room, cafeteria, gym, literal park, killer benefits, there's not a damn team that could make that a bad place to work. Hell 99% of the workforce in the US would take Tim Cook personally screaming at at them everyday and still work there over where we all work currently.