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This is great news. Please humbly come back to the billion-dollar campus.

Why would you not want to come back and work in the spaceship?

It is our money that has helped build this campus. Please don't let it just sit there.

It is just beautiful.

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Sarcasm I hope.

Remember the haters who thought that apple employees were acting spoiled?

Oh the haters were so wrong..

We are the future who can be productive at home and work at the office once or twice a week.
 
The dumb part of this plan is fixed days for everyone. Just let people choose the 2 days they work front home.

This also means less people in the open office floors and more opportunities to be more focused.
 
I think the vast majority of software engineers could work remotely, especially sales, hr, purchasing and accounting. But if you need to do hardware prototyping in any form, you better haul your you know what up to Cupertino. Personally, I don’t think Tim needs to be at the physical office everyday either, in fact, none of the executives need to be. It’s just the reality.
 
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Sarcasm I hope.

Remember the haters who thought that apple employees were acting spoiled?

Oh the haters were so wrong..

We are the future who can be productive at home and work at the office once or twice a week.
Seems like the “haters” were correct - wfh 100% is not the most proactively and best solution post-pandemic. (whatever mythical universe of people those were)
 
Good! In my work from home life during COVID I saw coworkers do "just enough" to keep their jobs while golfing, fishing and skateboarding "on the clock". Work got done, but the QUALITY of work suffered. Not everyone and every position is a good candidate for work from home. Apple has LOTS of work from home positions available. If one wants one, apply and get one. Those that have office positions either transfer to a work from home position or go to the office. Just because its POSSIBLE to do the work from home, doesnt mean its the most productive or the best option for the company.
 
Good! In my work from home life during COVID I saw coworkers do "just enough" to keep their jobs while golfing, fishing and skateboarding "on the clock". Work got done, but the QUALITY of work suffered. Not everyone and every position is a good candidate for work from home. Apple has LOTS of work from home positions available. If one wants one, apply and get one. Those that have office positions either transfer to a work from home position or go to the office. Just because its POSSIBLE to do the work from home, doesnt mean its the most productive or the best option for the company.
Isn't this what most managers have been doing for 100 years?
 
Everyone will find a way forward - company leaders and employees will dig in their heels to various degrees as the “negotiation” continues. We should welcome the back and forth, even if the conflict is painful at the moment. Apple wants it’s employees together, and right now they are trying to figure out what together really means in the 21st century.

I still maintain that the biggest challenges will be cultural: preserving what they have, shaping the future, and integrating newcomers along the way. If Apple loses its soul, then what makes it different from any other corporation out there?
 
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I find it ironic when I am forced to come in the office all day, then go home and do an overnight maintenance activity, then have to come back the next day, on hardware and software that is Remote anyway.

The pandemic showed tech companies what they already should have known before they spent too much money renovating/building office space:

People can be just as productive from home and revenues and workload resolution were not impacted by remote work in many scenarios.

Office space is somewhat obsolete for said scenarios; it's more cost-effective to offload the cost of rental space and infrastructure (monitors, cables, Internet access, power, water, etc.) to the employee where it makes sense.

My company renovated our entire building RIGHT BEFORE the pandemic hit, and the building still sits mostly empty as people are working from home for at least five of the seven days in a week.

That's two years of costs down the drain unnecessarily.
 
> Does that means we'll be getting better, more stable, and less buggy OS updates* starting in February?

Not if Apple loses its development team to more progressive companies that don't make people schlep for two hours across the bay area each day.
Employees in corporate are paid enough they can afford the $5000/month rent of a condo or a $1.5M house. Not much commute for them
 
Does that means we'll be getting better, more stable, and less buggy OS updates* starting in February?

* based on comments here from people who blamed the work-at-home Apple employees
Nope chances it will get worse. Reason being is a fair number of employees are going to quit and get new jobs over it. Your best employees do not have to give a flying f what Apple says as they can just make a phone call and get a new job. My employer is treading carefully on this issue. They flat out know if they push to hard big time in the tech area can just quit and find a new job for the same or better pay with little effort and still be fully remote.

The haters do not seem to get how much tech employers already struggle to hold onto their employees and how often people switch jobs. This is just going to push a fair number over the edge.
 
Nope chances it will get worse. Reason being is a fair number of employees are going to quit and get new jobs over it. Your best employees do not have to give a flying f what Apple says as they can just make a phone call and get a new job. My employer is treading carefully on this issue. They flat out know if they push to hard big time in the tech area can just quit and find a new job for the same or better pay with little effort and still be fully remote.

The haters do not seem to get how much tech employers already struggle to hold onto their employees and how often people switch jobs. This is just going to push a fair number over the edge.
Yup, experienced developers can quit today and start a new fully remote gig next week while getting a raise in the process.
 
Demonstrably after almost 2 years, forcing people back to offices like this is not necessary. I'm seeing it in my workplace too - we're losing staff to recruiters who sell "100% remote" as a benefit... A ping-pong table in the office with a depersonalized workspace isn't enough anymore - what are we asking people to come back to?
The indications in some other sectors are that, it's not that people don't want to work, it's that they don't want to work for the compensation that's being offered - there are service sector companies saying, "nobody will take the jobs we're offering (they must be lazy and like unemployment)", when it's really, "nobody will take the jobs we're offering for the same old pay/benefits we're offering" - in a variety of cases where the companies have offered substantially more pay/benefits, they get tons of applications. This isn't a sign of people not wanting to work, rather, covid and the lockdown and being away from the workplace and usual grind has broken the day-to-day routine for a lot of people, and caused them to reevaluate their place in the world and what they spend their days doing, and, basically, a lot of those jobs are now worth more (that is, require more compensation/benefits) than what the employers could get away with paying in the past. I'm sure that "100% remote" is a benefit, but I think there are a lot of other factors in play.
 
Everyone will find a way forward - company leaders and employees will dig in their heels to various degrees as the “negotiation” continues. We should welcome the back and forth, even if the conflict is painful at the moment. Apple wants it’s employees together, and right now they are trying to figure out what together really means in the 21st century.

I still maintain that the biggest challenges will be cultural: preserving what they have, shaping the future, and integrating newcomers along the way. If Apple loses its soul, then what makes it different from any other corporation out there?
Well, they’d have no choice but to relent if they want to recruit the best talent.
 
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Totally acceptable compromise and if they don’t like it they know where the exit is!

The disappointment of iPhone 13 and Apple Watch Series 7, quite frankly proves they can’t be trusted to work from home.

I’m pretty sure that an exodus of the most experienced staff who can easily find new jobs isn’t going to improve product quality.
 
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