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Yes, and what is legal copyright use inside one country, is not necessarily legal copyright use in another country. Funny?
Tim Apple may not have discovered, that very few have the financial means to by a "burner-phone" before overseas travel and bricking it completely after
Who's to decide? Apple? Bureaucratic brick-head (I nearly write something very similar)? Or worse a politician?
You are, if you use any iPhone, iPad or Apple Mac with M1 or later chip - at the latest after updating to iOS 15 or equivalent - and if you enter US-jurisdiction.
It will be interesting to see, what will happen in Europe. The approach directly violates EU-law regarding GDPR and citizens right to privacy. These laws have been thoroughly tested and upheld in and by courts of every level.
The implications will also be, that ALL data storage companies, locating data inside the US (Apple use third party cloud companies), or who are owned by US companies (subject to US law), will in effect become off-limits for storing EU citizen and company data. Until now, there has been a recent "re-agreement" on certain terms, but that seems invalid and void by Apples approach of scanning directly on a user device. That is illegal, without informed consent (clear definition exists and approved by courts) or LOCAL court orders. US courts have no say inside EU. They may not have that insight - initially - in all cases, but most wise up, before it becomes "international level dispute".
iOS15 is in effect a violation of current EU low, if it by any chance is shown effectively used inside EU (accidentally or not). What will happen if the iPhone is scanned while an EU citizen visits a US consulate or embassy inn - for Example Brussels or Paris - is not completely clear (this moment), but from now on such visits will be inadvisable, if carrying any Apple gear.
The world just got far more "interesting" (variation on old Chinese curse).
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Darth Tulhu
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I said it before and I'll say it again: resistance is (relatively) futile.
Did y'all miss the US events from Jan 2016 to Jan 2021?
We've already been living in a Black Mirror episode.
The only way to not have people looking at your stuff is to be offline.
All those silly willies that think quitting Apple for Samsung, Google, or Microsoft solves this will be swiftly disappointed once they find out everyone is doing the same thing.
Apple's stance on privacy was a last hope.
Now we see there never was any, just more of Apple's kickass marketing machine.
Yes, raise hell about this, but don't expect much to change.
So for now I'll eat, drink and be merry at the sweet sync between devices, for tomorrow we die... 'cause of tripping 'billies.
Did y'all miss the US events from Jan 2016 to Jan 2021?
We've already been living in a Black Mirror episode.
The only way to not have people looking at your stuff is to be offline.
All those silly willies that think quitting Apple for Samsung, Google, or Microsoft solves this will be swiftly disappointed once they find out everyone is doing the same thing.
Apple's stance on privacy was a last hope.
Now we see there never was any, just more of Apple's kickass marketing machine.
Yes, raise hell about this, but don't expect much to change.
So for now I'll eat, drink and be merry at the sweet sync between devices, for tomorrow we die... 'cause of tripping 'billies.
Well, according to a number of macrumor elitists in here, these Apple employees just haven't read the papers Apple has released or at least the FAQ, else they would not be so ignorant.
"Apple will push back vehemently against government requests." Wait, like it didn't when it removed the Chinese 'Quartz' news app that was covering protests in Hong Kong, and hiding the Taiwan flag from users in Hong Kong and Macau? I love Apple products, but I'm beginning to really dislike the company.
I don’t get the outrage. Apple is scanning known hash values. That means they already have the photo they are scanning for, they are only looking for others who have it. They are also only scanning iCloud photos. So if you’re concerned your photo library has something in it that could be flagged, just disable iCloud photos.
Darth Tulhu
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The outrage is simple.
Neither the reason nor the technical mechanisms justify Apple looking at my data.
In other words:
It doesn't matter why they're doing it.
It doesn't matter how they're doing it.
What matters is that they're doing it.
We were under the illusion that our digital devices, and online storage, were safety deposit boxes where only we have the key and get to look inside the box.
We were (and always have been) wrong.
Already did. Wiping the iPhone as I type.
What's to reconcile? I don't see how his threads/thoughts are mutually incompatible?
Yep, I guess it was self-validation as I mentioned here earlier, lol...
Yeah, still don’t want that either.
That’s how **** gets done pal.Such a large screeching minority
Let the users get a chance first. This is fairly recent news - barely more than a week old - and I do not expect all existing users to have had plans for buying a new iPhone next week.
The real effect will start to show on iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 sales, where the effects of MCAS will be widely known.
But I'm stepping up. I do not plan on replacing existing Apple gear (fairly nice number of machines and devices for personal use), when times come. Until then prevent measures (since I already own recent Windows machinery and Android smartphones).
I dont log in with my icloud on my mac, i always stay signed out unless I'm downloading something
That's a good question. I'm not sure why Apple is doing this as I'm unaware of consumer demand for this feature and there doesn't appear to be a way for Apple to monetise this unless they are plans to charge governments or other agencies for this surveillance (in which case they'll need to be able to monitor more than just images of children – such as copyrighted material or terrorism information).
This won't stop paedophilia and I doubt it will capture many paedophiles (just the ones that don't realise what Apple is doing). So unless Apple have plans to imply that Android users are paedophiles in some elaborate marketing campaign, I don't see what the benefit to Apple is.
“I’m sorry, but your user profile pic has been flagged as possibly being in violation…you may want to contact an attorney…”
I could be wrong, but I think it's known that Apple already capitulates to China on some things
Yes, start leaving our Apple devices outside of Apple stores with a note saying “Tim, you can have your spy trash back.”
Immediately turnoff iCloud photos.
Lord knows what else they’re scanning for with this.
Lord knows what else they’re scanning for with this.
And from broadly controversial on to topics on which some ideas, theses, and proposals are simply disliked by a minority.