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It's usually called: 'Free at the point of delivery', a system that respects that people are richer or poorer through no fault of their own and therefore won't discriminate when it comes to providing the most basic of needs.

And that benefits all... Less crime and a whole lot more happy people.
 
I just left Apple after three years in AppleCare. This is truly insulting considering the amount of work we put in, the time we're expected to be away from our families, the lack of upward advancement opportunities, and low wage compared to similar jobs elsewhere.

This would be worth about $200 to me based on what my pay was when I left. Diddly freaking squat. Richest company in the world is also the cheapest. The only rewards we get our cheap Apple pens and mugs ordered from the same promotional company over and over again. I have four water bottles, three pens, a mousepad, a hat, one jacket (2 sizes too large, thanks manager for paying attention to the size I sent you) and a keychain with a light on it that was broken when I received it.

Apple is a great tech company -- the best -- but they have a lot to learn about how to treat their employees.

Are you talking about Apple Retail stores? If you make $200 in a non retail store job in several days, you should take a little of the hit for accepting that job. If you are talking retail stores, I believe Apple pays higher than standard retail.

I am not here to defend Apple's wages and personally, I think most major companies give time off at Thanksgiving so the days they are giving are pretty much standard in the industry.....
 
You hit the point. And if I'd put SO much pressure to my Note 3 it wouldn't bend but BREAK :)

The same guy who bent the iPhone on YouTube, tried even harder with a Note 3, and barely fazed it. It kept springing back into shape, with only the slightest of warp at the very end.


(Personally, I don't put phones in pants pockets very often, so this whole bending thing doesn't bother me.)
 
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I NOT sure where you people are basing 10 days of vacation time off on....??? I wouldn't say MOST American have 10 vacation days/time off. Perhaps, many do. Where I come from, MOST have about a month or close to a month off........... they usually spread the time apart. Example, my cousin works in a nursing home, in the kitchen, has been there for over ten years AND he has a whole month off each year. It's not a great job, but the pay and time off is great.

Retail on the other hand, well, MANY retail businesses WILL work people into being slaves and ****** pay, benefits and time off.
 
We have 6 month paid maternity in Denmark for the Women and 2 weeks for the men. The company pays this, but gets the money partly back from the state.
Now that would be awesome. Nothing like that here. :(

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Did Tim also thank them for their oversight of not checking out the strength of the iPhone 6 Plus? There are enough complaints about the phone bending that its become an embarrassment to the company. How can these so-called engineers overlook this?:eek:
I know, right?! I used my 6 to jack up my car this morning, and it bent!!
 
Tim is awesome...no other large U.S. based company would just do this except for Apple.

Good for them and their employees.
 
It's not about the products, it's about the bottom line. Money in the bank. Job done. :cool:

Now go enjoy watching their stock price rise on your newly bent iPhone 6 Plus. :apple:

I had no clue when purchasing a large block of Apple stock around twelve dollars per share, then buying more each year, just how much it'd worth today. I'm happy I hung on to it. Now I but all my Apple Gear like it's free.
 
UK statutory provision is 20 days per year plus 8 days of public holidays. In practice the norm is 25 days a year rising to about 30 with long service in some jobs.

Almost all other first world countries do maternity leave that is paid to some degree, and it is certainly longer than the miserable 6 weeks unpaid in the U.S.

One of the numerous reasons many in my demographic (30-somethings) have chosen to be ex-Pat's over the last few years (nothing to do with POTUS, and most started during the GWB years). I'm considering moving back to London or Berlin.
 
Actually, considering how much time these people spend at work I'm not surprised about extra time. A friend of mine works for Apple in Cupertino and he spends about 12 hours at work every day. To hell with that kind of work. No amount of money is worth giving up my freedom like that.
 
Everyone has time off except Johhny Ive who has to stay in and write out 10,000 times on lined paper.

I must not make an iPhone that bends so easily in peoples pockets



Just joking :D

hah that just reminded me of how teachers would punish when i was in middle school.

Sometimes i'd ask if i could type it instead, and they'd say yes...

Ah, the mid-90s when most adults were still tech dumb.
 
hah that just reminded me of how teachers would punish when i was in middle school.

Sometimes i'd ask if i could type it instead, and they'd say yes...

Ah, the mid-90s when most adults were still tech dumb.

mid 90's , your a spring chicken haha 80's for me. How about putting a dot in each square of a sheet of graph paper and no smudges, clean dot in each square. That was dolled out to a class mate who when asked for a saying said "confucious say goto bed with itchy bum wake up with smelly finger"
 
iOS 8.0.1 Causing No Service, Touch ID Issues on iPhone 6/6 Plus, Apple Support Recommends iTunes Restore

Tim has issued a new letter revoking all time off because of the 8.0.1 update.

Without you, none of these problems due to this half-baked, rushed update would have happened. You have forced me to announce that we're canceling the Thanksgiving holiday this year. You WILL be working on November 24, 25 and 26, as well as Thanksgiving Day and Black Friday. Whether or not we will pay you for these days will be based on how quickly any and all issues with iOS 8 will be solved. Let's not even bring up the iPhone 6 Plus bending issues, for which you will all be severely punished at a later date. Now get back to work. The great and powerful Tim has spoken.
 
We have 6 month paid maternity in Denmark for the Women and 2 weeks for the men. The company pays this, but gets the money partly back from the state.

Yeah, but Denmark just has premium social laws... Really, even as a French, I'm jealous of your labor laws and practices!

Besides, I have worked with danish and scandinavian people, and you seem to operate on a clockwork and respect the letter of your contracts. If your day stops at 5pm, even if its the Armageddon at the office, noone will answer the phone by 5:01pm. Same with your holidays. I had a brand new website launch in august with the Finish office of a multinational. But the whole office at planned to close for august for holidays, so we just did the launch ourselves, with absolutely noone customer side...

In France, things tend to be a lot more confused. For instance, my girlfriend is supposed to finish the day at 6pm, but she either stay later or bring work back home. Actually, it's past 9pm and she's still working even though it is supposed to be her day off. Likewise, in small companies, extra hours are almost never paid.
 
You're joking right?

But saw a sign with 8$'s pay an hour at Mc Donalds. Here they get 21$'s an hour plus extras for working late hours and/ or weekends. So I guess if they are paid so poorly, they also cheat with vacations in the us.

By the way. Vacations are PAID time of in Denmark.

In Denmark the holidays does NOT count for your 6 weeks vacation
Denmark sounds amazing when you don't pay attention to what things cost. $21 an hour for the same job that only pays $8 here? Awesome! Oops, wait. Pricing of consumer goods in Denmark is on average over 40% higher than the US. Eating out at restaurants in Denmark? *90%* more! Groceries? 15-20% higher. Your internet and cell service might be cheaper, but your utilities average 50% more than what we pay in the US. Vehicle prices, gasoline, taxis? Double the cost of the US. Income tax in Denmark can be double that of the US as well, not to mention VAT.

So $8/hr vs. $21/hr isn't nearly the outrageous difference you imply.
 
Yes, but Denmark, and actually most Nothern Europe economies, get a good deal nevertheless. High pays, high taxes, high prices but the whole level of services they get from it is just awesome.

Besides, you don't have to spend on what you would in the US. For instance, you count that cars and gasoline is more expensive, but if you have good public transport, you don't need a car. For instance, I'm French, I'm 42 and I never had a car - actually, I'm just thinking about passing my driving license now to use during the holidays. Currently, my only means of transportation from most used to less used are walking, electric bike and public transport.
Likewise, you do not need to pay for a health insurance, for retirement fund, for disability insurance...
And yes, food is more expensive, but when I spend holidays in the US, I really wasn't impressed by the quality of what you find your cheap supermarkets. Don't get me wrong, the US has excellent organic food, it has pretty good high quality meat (though you seem to have an obsession with frozen meat), but then, the prices go up pretty quickly too.
That's also what's part of quality of life.

Besides, Denmark and other similar countries have a society where misery is pretty rare, you have a reasonable difference between lower and higher income. It means that they live in a society that is much less violent. Like, you can shop at the supermarket and not have the feeling of abusing slave labor.
 
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