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It makes no sense whatsoever to say something is overpriced, but then see value in it. One might say, "Apple's products are VERY expensive", but still see value and then buy it, but if you feel something is just plain overpriced then yes, it IS hypocritical to still buy it.

I can see the value in continuing to renew my Creative Cloud subscription with Adobe and still think I'm paying too much for it. If I want to work with their software applications, what other choice do I have? Sorry that doesn't make sense to you.
 
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henry is entertaining , don't let facts get in a way of a good lecture ;) get some popcorn and enjoy the sermon :)
 
A lot of Apple's products are ridiculously overpriced. You can feel like you're probably paying too much for something but still see enough value in it to make the purchase. And you can own Apple products and still think they're overpriced without being a hypocrite.

The price of smartphones (not just iPhones) are a great example.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPhone-...ie=UTF8&qid=1428362127&sr=1-6&keywords=iphone

$800+ for an unlocked iPhone 6? Give me a break. The only reason the masses have them is because their prices are significantly reduced with contract renewal. Not because consumers think $800 is a fair price.

The "masses" know that the cost on contract is just the cashdown on their loan. Many people know exactly what they're getting. In the case of T-mobile, the load aspect is made explicit. I believe everyone heading towards that.

If you find the value of what you pay for something is worth the price, it can't by definition be overpriced. Overpriced stuff means your getting a lower value than you have been expecting, often being forced to buy the product because there is no other alternative. That happens in a monopoly situation were market forces don't apply.

So, could say that that Apple building an ecosystem is part of this. But, I don't agree, nothing is forcing people to buy into the Apple ecosystem more and more. If you have five Apple products and whined your locked into Apple because of them, it is hard to feel compassion for that ;-). Most products are useful independently. The watch though is a bit different.

The watch is the Apple product that depends the most on other Apple products being around to be able to operate (unless you can eventually connect it to a Windows PC to put music on it, which I doubt). If someone buys the watch, then yes, they'll be restricted to Apple products if they want to continue using it (your next phone has to be an Apple phone).

Watch buyers will therefore be, at least initially, mostly mid high to high end hard core fans.
 
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I couldn't care less rather you can afford anything or not. It was you that feels you deserve to be employed by any company you apply for.
Hmm, I find it so interesting that nearly every one of your posts get at least one thumb up instantly even when the post makes zero sense for anyone to agree with it. Well I guess some will have more than one account than others....not saying that about you of course. ;)
Come on Henry stop grasping at straws, and thanks for letting me know I'm getting at least 1 thumb up I don't check, and you've got to admit that's pretty good considering the stuff I talk about.

I buy Apple stuff but I don't pray at the altar, I just let people know the facts rather than gushing over everything Apple does.
Don't forget, You're holding it wrong.
 
I can see the value in continuing to renew my Creative Cloud subscription with Adobe and still think I'm paying too much for it. But if I want to work with their software applications, what other choice do I have? Sorry that doesn't make sense to you.

I think Apple's products are very expensive and maybe even overpriced but dang they make quality products. I sold my 2013 Macbook Pro Retina for $900 last week and I paid $1200 in 2013. The person who bought it was former Windows/Galaxy S5 user who gave up on both because of having to reboot every day for security fixes and the S5 battery would only last 4 hours after 6 months of use.

I will gladly "overpay" for Apple products. I sold my iPhone 5C for more than it cost me to get an iPhone 6+ - 64Gig
 
This only proves how HIGH a markup consumers are paying for an Apple Watch.

no, actually it doesnt prove that at all.

your comment does, however, prove that no matter what apple does the haters will find a way to bring it down. nice work!
 
Come on Henry stop grasping at straws, and thanks for letting me know I'm getting at least 1 thumb up I don't check, and you've got to admit that's pretty good considering the stuff I talk about.

Ah, so you're finally admitting that the majority of your posts are anti-Apple. Thanks. That was easy. :)
 
I can see the value in continuing to renew my Creative Cloud subscription with Adobe and still think I'm paying too much for it. If I want to work with their software applications, what other choice do I have? Sorry that doesn't make sense to you.

And you don't have choices in computer companies huh? I like how you're trying to narrow the gap. :rolleyes:
 
Apple's products are just that much better than others. Supply and demand... they can sell for whatever they want and people buy because they are worth almost the same price years later. Last year Apple sold a record amount of iPhones while Samsung dropped 21%. Even though Apple's iPhone's are overpriced.

You know the products must be good if the same people keep bashing relentlessly. It's very sad. Why else would someone spend all day on an Apple Forum trying to convince you that the product is overpriced? lol

I hope Apple does lower the price like people are saying. Apple keeps making more and more money so they must be doing something right.

That was sarcasm right?

Out of curiosity , In case it's not, what apple product can you resell years later for almost the same price?? Are we talking 1st gen models that were never opened ?
 
That was sarcasm right?

Out of curiosity , In case it's not, what apple product can you resell years later for almost the same price?? Are we talking 1st gen models that were never opened ?

Did you read my next post where I explain?
 
Heh, it's not just what I think, trust me... I am far from the only person who feels Apple products are overpriced and that their markups are close to insane.

Dude, what are you talking about?

First off, you don't actually KNOW what their mark ups are to judge if they are insane. Sure some companies take them apart and try and speculate over the price of components. But there are some things that cannot really be known.

You can't really use the term 'overpriced' either. Market forces determine what price the market will bear.

Who would have thunk that Rolex could manufacture an image for themselves that would allow them to sell a mechanical wind up watch for ten grand on a routine basis to more than a million people a year. A watch that is horribly inaccurate and needs an expensive service every 5-10 years.

I believe the word you are looking for by the way is 'expensive.' Apple's pricing strategy is to produce a quality premium product and charge accordingly.

A couple of weeks ago I was visiting an Apple Store at the Mall of America with my father in law. We looked at the iMac and iMac 5K. Then because my father in law is a PC guy we walked across the hall to the Microsoft Store. Their similarly priced all in one PCs looked cheap, badly styled, plastic, nasty and with an inferior display than the non-5K version.

The Apple product was clearly a better buy, and for just $300 you could have a 5K display, which looks stunning.

Fact is, that product is better quality, better looking, and more desirable.

Apple is not trying to be a bargain basement company selling cheap products. They put a lot of thought and effort into some pretty incredible designs made of premium materials. That's why they cost a little more.

I'm getting sick of reading such stupid comments about how Apple are over priced etc. Based on the valuation of their company, I'd say they don't really need to be listening to the naysayers.
 
Ah, so you're finally admitting that the majority of your posts are anti-Apple. Thanks. That was easy. :)

Henry, you're aware that they are going to keep replying back to you, right? I was in your position before. The answer is stop posting comments and let the conversation die away. . . or until the moderator removes all or the posts.
 
Dude, what are you talking about?

First off, you don't actually KNOW what their mark ups are to judge if they are insane. Sure some companies take them apart and try and speculate over the price of components. But there are some things that cannot really be known.

You can't really use the term 'overpriced' either. Market forces determine what price the market will bear.

Who would have thunk that Rolex could manufacture an image for themselves that would allow them to sell a mechanical wind up watch for ten grand on a routine basis to more than a million people a year. A watch that is horribly inaccurate and needs an expensive service every 5-10 years.

I believe the word you are looking for by the way is 'expensive.' Apple's pricing strategy is to produce a quality premium product and charge accordingly.

A couple of weeks ago I was visiting an Apple Store at the Mall of America with my father in law. We looked at the iMac and iMac 5K. Then because my father in law is a PC guy we walked across the hall to the Microsoft Store. Their similarly priced all in one PCs looked cheap, badly styled, plastic, nasty and with an inferior display than the non-5K version.

The Apple product was clearly a better buy, and for just $300 you could have a 5K display, which looks stunning.

Fact is, that product is better quality, better looking, and more desirable.

Apple is not trying to be a bargain basement company selling cheap products. They put a lot of thought and effort into some pretty incredible designs made of premium materials. That's why they cost a little more.

I'm getting sick of reading such stupid comments about how Apple are over priced etc. Based on the valuation of their company, I'd say they don't really need to be listening to the naysayers.

You are so true... but people are here bashing because it bothers them that Apple is just that good.

Apple products are just better... If they are overpriced why do they keep selling so well and Apple is now the biggest company in the world? Because everyone is a pawn to keep buying for no reason?
 
And while you may be right, maybe you should show the proof to back up your statement. And please do show me the number of other products Apple reduced the price on shortly after release. :rolleyes:

Let's go one by one.

Stop being lazy and Google it! 2008 MBA . Prove me wrong !!

See how easy that was ;)

Also define what you mean by shortly after release . Cause knowing you, you will make it a period so short, no company has done a reduction in that time ;)
 
And you don't have choices in computer companies huh? I like how you're trying to narrow the gap. :rolleyes:

Of course I have other choices, and I've chosen those other computer companies many times. For the record, I've gotten good deals and paid decent prices for the Apple products I own. I still think many of their products are overpriced and stand by my original statement.
 
You are so true... but people are here bashing because it bothers them that Apple is just that good.

Apple products are just better... If they are overpriced why do they keep selling so well and Apple is now the biggest company in the world? Because everyone is a pawn to keep buying for no reason?

The only thing that bothers me about Apple products is how overpriced they are. I use them on a daily basis and I like them a lot. It's why I keep buying them.

I just wish they would be a bit more honest with their pricing so I don't have to keep waiting for price drops and sales.

Along the same lines, it boggles me how much some people defend Apple's incredibly high profit margins, knowing full well they overcharge for just about all of their products.

Unless you're a shareholder, why would one care about how large a company's profit margin is?

It's baffling.
 
Henry, you're aware that they are going to keep replying back to you, right? I was in your position before. The answer is stop posting comments and let the conversation die away. . . or until the moderator removes all or the posts.

Very good point. Well taken. Some people here are just not worth it.
 
The only thing that bothers me about Apple products is how overpriced they are. I use them on a daily basis and I like them a lot. It's why I keep buying them.

I just wish they would be a bit more honest with their pricing.

Along the same lines, it boggles me how much some people defend Apple's incredibly high profit margins, knowing full well they overcharge for just about all of their products.

Unless you're a shareholder, why should one care about how good a company's profit margin in?

It's baffling.

I don't know their profit margin though I am a shareholder. My whole family is Apple products because they are just that much better than others. Same for our cars. Resell value is what is most important to me beyond how much I like the car for safety, looks and comfort. I overpay for quality because it comes back to you in the end.

In the end, if a product didn't live up to expectations, the company would start losing sales and have a year over year loss like other companies making similar products.
 
Lucky folks! ! I'd love to have a 42mm steel Watch with a link bracelet at a price that's less than the standard 38mm steel Watch
 
Very good point. Well taken. Some people here are just not worth it.

Can I just say that , while I admit I can get carried away at times, do you also not self reflect? I can honestly say that at times all of us are the problem on these forums, and sorry neither of us can take the moral high ground. Have a think if your comments fuel the fire, and come across and lecturing, instead of discussing . Just a thought .
 
Can I just say that , while I admit I can get carried away at times, do you also not self reflect? I can honestly say that at times all of us are the problem on these forums, and sorry neither of us can take the moral high ground. Have a think if your comments fuel the fire, and come across and lecturing, instead of discussing . Just a thought .

Sadly, I agree with you as well. I get carried away as well and later regret not taking the high road. And I way too old to not take the high road. :(
 
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