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If this follows past patterns:

- The new Photos app will do 99% of what people used Aperture for.

- But not in version one! (There's is SOME hope that the delay of Photos to 2015 makes this not true, but the past pattern is: clean start, then build from there. We saw it with Final Cut on the pro side and iWork on the consumer side when the new version re-gained lost AppleScript tools.)

- But Aperture won't suddenly evaporate. People who need it can keep using it until Photos is ready.

Sure this will take forever. We are still waiting for iWorks to re-gain some decency.

I really hate what Apple is doing here and there. I see myself in the future not using apple devices anymore, as they'll probably be as crappy as their competitors.

Just saying...
 
Exaclty. Google would never do this. I feel sorry for Apple users for paying all that money for a Mac only for it to get dumbed down into an iToy a little more every year.

Within the past 2 years, Google turned YouTube into an instantly failed social network and dumbed down the channel customization not once but three times, causing me to quit.
 
Wow, the new app is not even shipped yet people are complaining already. What wrong with you people? Can you wait until at least trying it out?
 
I'm not aware of any way you can just buy Lightroom any more. If you have to switch won't you be sucked into Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription?

You can still buy it and Amazon even has the Mac digital download here for $135.
 
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I can see where this is unfortunate for Aperture users, but I'm sure it's even worse news for Lightroom users--this removes the only real competitor to Lightroom, which means Adobe will probably force LR users to switch to subscription pricing as they have the rest of the Creative Suite.

As for me, I'm still using iPhoto 08 so I'm looking forward to seeing what the new Photos application can do.
 
I'm happy to know for sure what some of us suspected is not true.

But now I want to know if this new iPhoto replacement is going to be iCloud dependent -- not optional, dependent.

I'm basing this off the story here which states (bolded for emphasis):

The Photos app, which was shown off only briefly during WWDC, will combine with iCloud Photo Library, replacing both Aperture and iPhoto. While Photos will allow users to store, search, and edit photos via the cloud on Apple devices, it is unlikely to include the more robust, professional-oriented tools found in Aperture.

Had Apple simply wanted to add iCloud capability it didn't need to launch a completely new app. It could just add it in like they did with iTunes.

I do not have a bias against cloud computing in this matter except that it costs a lot more per GB than a HDD or SSD, even when you consider you need an extra for backup and is also slower. Plus if the network is down (and lets face it iCloud isn't 99.5% reliable) then you are screwed for the moment.
 
If this follows past patterns:

- The new Photos app will do 99% of what people used Aperture for.

Considering that it's meant to replace iPhoto as well and that Apple is having users migrate to Adobe software, I doubt this will happen. The new Photos software is going to be made for consumers.
 
I understand this. But I don't want to continue to use software for the 'next several years', in which it will no longer be updated and/or supported.

Well that's your choice, not a fault of the software or Apple's forward progress on providing _new_ applications that you haven't even tried yet. The new Photos may be a perfect replacement for Aperture for many, it's too early to tell.
 
All right people....let's review.

1. Aperture is being killed off because it never sold well, and Apple not interested in making it anymore.
2. Photos IS NOT a replacement for Aperture. It's a replacement for iPhoto. You will be able to export your Aperture library to Photos, but it IS NOT a replacement!
3. Apple is working with Adobe to allow for a smooth transition to those users who need to migrate to Lightroom. This is more than most companies do when they kill something off.

That's all folks!
Probably all true, but I have to say I feel like I've had a friend take me by the hand and deliver me to the enemy. Once the whole Creative Cloud thing started, I was really happy I was using Aperture. Now Adobe gets the last laugh.

I've never tried this, but is there a way to batch export every image that has adjustments applied? The problem with "non-destructive" editing is that the edits evaporate when the machinery to apply them disappears. I suppose I should have always exported my final to TIFF or PSD and reimported it for archiving.

Which brings the next question: which image format is most likely to survive the ages? This is another example of digital impermanence-- seismic changes like obsolescence leave whole masses of information isolated from ready use.
 
Wow, the new app is not even shipped yet people are complaining already. What wrong with you people? Can you wait until at least trying it out?

There's absolutely no chance they will put the features of Aperture into this new app, far to confusing for the general public.

Upgrade to Lightroom or Capture One if you need professional photo database and raw editing, they are miles ahead anyway.
 
Yah Adobe needs to improve on Lightroom's cataloguing system if they want professionals to use it. Right now nobody that matters uses Lightroom. It's mostly for prosumers.

Curious what solutions do high end users use for cataloging?
 
Considering that it's meant to replace iPhoto as well and that Apple is having users migrate to Adobe software, I doubt this will happen. The new Photos software is going to be made for consumers.

Apple is "having" users migrate to Adobe software, but rather providing a pathway should they choose to. Big difference there.
 
Come on, Apple!

Seriously? Here's the thing. I see people here writing how awesome it would be to do this or that in the field. These are people who are most certainly not full-time professional photographers. Have any of you ever tried to manage and edit a library of 100,000 images in the freaking cloud? That solution was, is, and only ever will be an option for laymen. Shooting a picture with your iPhone and doing whatever with it on another device is fine for a normal person, but a professional has no need for or desire for such a thing. My rather expensive DSLR is made to take and store pictures, which it does better than ANY other device, and transfer them for corrections, storage, enhancements, etc... The whole point of Aperture was to organize all images, locally stored, to quickly find them or group them when needed. I have never, in 20+ years, stored anything online, over the network, or in the cloud. My collection of hard drives, and their mirrors, have always been the most efficient and reliable system around. Apple is killing professionals in favor of the simple-minded general public who think photography is made of stupid pictures with "neato" filters, rather than a set of technical and creative skills learned and honed over many years.

This announcement saddens me. It not only throws us professionals out in the muck, again, it empowers the mundane and celebrates the talentless cool factor over the practical needs of one of Apple's longest supporting groups. At this rate Apple will be making the entire OS for all devices designed for an IQ level of 3, which will make all of it just useless. Like Windows.
 
The editing capabilities that they demoed during WWDC seemed fine to me. The reason I really like aperture was photo organization and making photo books.

Does anyone think that the photo book capabilities will be brought to the new photo application? If not, then I at least still hope I can use Aperture for that.
 
You know, a lot of professionals chose Apple for their software, but they have really disappointed me recently.

OS X is still good (but I haven't tried Yosemite).

It started with FCP issues. Then Apple release sub par iWork updates that ruined many good features.

Now they're dropping iPhoto and Aperature for more "cloud based" crap! Apple has the hardware down, but they really need to work on their pitiful software.

And! When you move everything to the cloud you get the lowest common demonitator of features to "ensure compatibility between OS X, iOS, and the cloud."

I'm angry if you can't tell!

I want a good DAM, but I don't want to pay $10 a month for Lightroom.
 
**** .. Apple what is wrong with you .. So many people are not comfortable with data in clouds specially with NSA ..

5gb icloud hahahah .. joke for image

Looks like adobe lightroom will be better choice
 
I'm really disappointed. I have used aperture for years and haven't open iPhoto since 11. I have thousands of massive raw images in there. And I'm supposed to believe the cloud will handle it just as smoothly as my rMBP will?

Yeah right.

Super disappointed by this, Apple. At least I can keep using aperture for Yosemite.
 
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