Because 99% of people using iCloud have an extremely expensive Apple device. The more you have (read: the more money you give apple), the less space you have to store backups of each device.
The point was quite clear.
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Apple Ends Complimentary 20 GB Storage Plan for Former MobileMe Members
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Because 99% of people using iCloud have an extremely expensive Apple device. The more you have (read: the more money you give apple), the less space you have to store backups of each device.
The point was quite clear.
The difference is that we pay apple thousands of dollars and pay Dropbox nothing for the 5 gb.
Dropbox has no other revenue stream - not comparable
Also dropbox is miles better than iCloud as you cant choose what to store in iCloud.
apple does if you create more Apple ID's.. then just share the calendar and streams etc....
The iTunes media storage isnt exactly storage, all it does is re-download your files from their Microsoft storage servers.
Your photos are a plus, however if I buy a 16Gig iPhone, with iCloud's backup being touted as the primary feature, the very least Apple could do is offer a year of 16GB backup space. That's better than nothing.
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apple does if you create more Apple ID's.. then just share the calendar and streams etc....
You can never merge those accounts, so anything you buy one one, is stuck on one. Not an option really sadly.
You can have a whole bunch of shared photo streams (100?) with 5000 photos each as well.
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4858
No, any media you purchase from iTunes is available for download or streaming.
But I can earn more than the 5GB, your point?
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Nope. Backups of my iPad and iPhone run over 13GB. 5GB is pathetic.
I had a MobileMe account and I wanted to change to my Apple ID iCloud account so never really took advantage of that 20GB legacy "perk".
That being said, there really wasn't much to it. Maybe if iCloud had an iDisk... Not sure why Apple decided to get rid of the two best features of MobileMe when they went to iCloud: Web Albums and iDisk.
That being said, there really wasn't much to it. Maybe if iCloud had an iDisk... Not sure why Apple decided to get rid of the two best features of MobileMe when they went to iCloud: Web Albums and iDisk.
Interesting point. They should.
Also an interestsing point. Even if it were only 10GB extra bring the free total to 15GB.
Very true.
I wonder what else isn't counted in your data storage. (If anything.)
Humans are like that. They have selective memories and forget things that they don't want to think about. Or maybe it's selective hearing/reading.
You have to be diligent in ensuring that all your app data's are low or they are set to not backup. For example, Zinio will backup all the magazine content to iCloud unless you toggle an option that disables that.
Some apps don't give that option, however. iTunes still works really well for backups. Can't beat the restore time either
.I also like free things. Thus I waited to the last minute to sign up for a paid plan.
I also wish the Apple would have grandfathered us into more storage the way that Microsoft did with Skydrive. I have and extra 25 gig for a total of 45 gigs.
I earned additional space on both Dropbox and Google Drive. I got in early to Box with additional space.
My point is SO WHAT!
All these companies need to earn revenue or they go out of business. While I prefer free, I don't have a problem paying Apple for space.
NOTHING IS FREE
I stuck with @mac and it is ad free. My Gmail account is for an extra address. Now almost all email apps from Google has ads. Nothing is free.
Issue I have here is that a single iPhone backup takes me over the limit. Seems to me that 5GB is very reasonable for personal documents, but backups should be excluded from the quota.
Nice when they did this if they offered a decent way to merge ID's
I now appear to have a Mobile Me account name, an iCloud account name and an Apple ID, none of which recognise each other. Apple keep saying they are going to come up with a way of merging these ID's into a single ID. Well I am still waiting and when they are finally winding up Moblle Me, it would be a good time to sort this out. You don't seem to be able to transfer data and information from one ID to another and then delete the surplus ID. iTunes and my Macs use my Apple ID (apart from iCloud sync) but my iOS devices use my Mobile Me ID. This is just plain silly.
I now appear to have a Mobile Me account name, an iCloud account name and an Apple ID, none of which recognise each other. Apple keep saying they are going to come up with a way of merging these ID's into a single ID. Well I am still waiting and when they are finally winding up Moblle Me, it would be a good time to sort this out. You don't seem to be able to transfer data and information from one ID to another and then delete the surplus ID. iTunes and my Macs use my Apple ID (apart from iCloud sync) but my iOS devices use my Mobile Me ID. This is just plain silly.
pretty ok
I think in the end, apple will have giving any mobileme user about 20+ months of free 25GB service plan. Not too shabby, but yes as a 10 year MM user, I'd like a little bit more recognition, like 10GB for free for life. How had would that be?
Granted, I probably only paid about 20$ a year for MM overall, so it wasn't too much of an expense to have the syncing that I used/use today..
I think in the end, apple will have giving any mobileme user about 20+ months of free 25GB service plan. Not too shabby, but yes as a 10 year MM user, I'd like a little bit more recognition, like 10GB for free for life. How had would that be?
Granted, I probably only paid about 20$ a year for MM overall, so it wasn't too much of an expense to have the syncing that I used/use today..
Not sure how you're supposed to backup a 128GB iPad and 64GB iPhone with only 5GB of storagemuch less also share documents and data between a Retina MacBook Pro and a 27" iMac. Factor in an email account from the .Mac days that has tons of older messages that fills up 5GB alone and you're really in trouble.
I always thought iCloud was a value proposition for people buying Apple products. Google gives 15GB away for freeno device purchase required. Apple has margins several times higher than Google and can't pony up for more than 5GB in 2013? And if I buy more storage space then I can't decide what I want to do with it? It's no wonder their services haven't taken off. I saw a 1TB 2.5" WD HDD the other day for only $50. But I'm supposed to be paying $40 for 20GB? I know it's cloud storage but still. Dropbox gives you 100GB for $99/yr and Apple gives you half of that50GB for $100/yr. I've also got 23.7GB of free Dropbox storage right now from doing referrals and DropQuests and other things. If anyone has the money to scale and bring down prices for cloud storage, it's Apple.
The other thing that pissed me off was the $40 charge I received last night. Even though I had read the change was coming and keep up with Apple news in general things get crazy in life (like my wife being preggo right now). Many other people will probably also be confused. I saw that charge come in late last night as a banking alert and looked on my iTunes account and saw no purchases since mid-September so I reported it as fraud (I also have a ton of credit on my iTunes account right now so I was confused). Turns out this storage charge shows up as an iTunes charge on your billing, even though it has nothing to do with iTunes! Not even that, but it's on your iTunes account for your iCloud emailand many other people like me have their iTunes account separate from their iCloud account because iTunes predates iCloud and you can't merge them. So looking at the history for my iCloud's iTunes account, that is the only recorded instance of anything ever purchased in iTunes. So then I had to cancel the fraud report, but now I still have to get a new credit card and fill in my payment details on a half a million websites all over again. Why doesn't it show up on the billing as "Apl*apple Online Store 800-676-2775 Ca" like my recent Apple Care purchase for my iPhone 5 did? It was very confusing, especially seeing that so late in the day on a Monday. I didn't want to take any chances, especially after my old, mostly unused Gmail account was hacked a couple months ago. I've been in lockdown mode.
All I'm trying to say is that Apple isn't doing themselves (or their customers) any favors with these storage options and prices, and this is all coming from a long-time Apple fan. If the competition has ANYTHING over on Apple, anything at all that could bring them down, it's that Apple's services are kind of bad, and sometimes mediocre at best. Apple makes amazing hardware and software, but I'm scared that the rise of services in an ever-connected world could prove to be their eventual, longer-term downfall. Luckily there is still time to change course, and I believe we are just now starting to see evidence of that with recent rumors. Hope it works out for them.
I always thought iCloud was a value proposition for people buying Apple products. Google gives 15GB away for freeno device purchase required. Apple has margins several times higher than Google and can't pony up for more than 5GB in 2013? And if I buy more storage space then I can't decide what I want to do with it? It's no wonder their services haven't taken off. I saw a 1TB 2.5" WD HDD the other day for only $50. But I'm supposed to be paying $40 for 20GB? I know it's cloud storage but still. Dropbox gives you 100GB for $99/yr and Apple gives you half of that50GB for $100/yr. I've also got 23.7GB of free Dropbox storage right now from doing referrals and DropQuests and other things. If anyone has the money to scale and bring down prices for cloud storage, it's Apple.
The other thing that pissed me off was the $40 charge I received last night. Even though I had read the change was coming and keep up with Apple news in general things get crazy in life (like my wife being preggo right now). Many other people will probably also be confused. I saw that charge come in late last night as a banking alert and looked on my iTunes account and saw no purchases since mid-September so I reported it as fraud (I also have a ton of credit on my iTunes account right now so I was confused). Turns out this storage charge shows up as an iTunes charge on your billing, even though it has nothing to do with iTunes! Not even that, but it's on your iTunes account for your iCloud emailand many other people like me have their iTunes account separate from their iCloud account because iTunes predates iCloud and you can't merge them. So looking at the history for my iCloud's iTunes account, that is the only recorded instance of anything ever purchased in iTunes. So then I had to cancel the fraud report, but now I still have to get a new credit card and fill in my payment details on a half a million websites all over again. Why doesn't it show up on the billing as "Apl*apple Online Store 800-676-2775 Ca" like my recent Apple Care purchase for my iPhone 5 did? It was very confusing, especially seeing that so late in the day on a Monday. I didn't want to take any chances, especially after my old, mostly unused Gmail account was hacked a couple months ago. I've been in lockdown mode.
All I'm trying to say is that Apple isn't doing themselves (or their customers) any favors with these storage options and prices, and this is all coming from a long-time Apple fan. If the competition has ANYTHING over on Apple, anything at all that could bring them down, it's that Apple's services are kind of bad, and sometimes mediocre at best. Apple makes amazing hardware and software, but I'm scared that the rise of services in an ever-connected world could prove to be their eventual, longer-term downfall. Luckily there is still time to change course, and I believe we are just now starting to see evidence of that with recent rumors. Hope it works out for them.
iCloud Storage
Wish they had just given everyone 20G instead. If they want to get serious about luring more to iWork and iCloud Storage they might need to give little more for free. Also would like to see temporary storage sufficient for same day device backup and restore, since works way better than iTunes for setting up new device.
Wish they had just given everyone 20G instead. If they want to get serious about luring more to iWork and iCloud Storage they might need to give little more for free. Also would like to see temporary storage sufficient for same day device backup and restore, since works way better than iTunes for setting up new device.
Dropbox has no other revenue stream - not comparable
Also dropbox is miles better than iCloud as you cant choose what to store in iCloud.
When has iCloud ever been a storage service?
I believe its 1000 photos and 25,000 songs on iTunes Match.
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You can. If I want save a pages, numbers, or keynote document - I can choose to save it locally or in iCloud.
My 1Password data is also saved on iCloud.
A lot of great points in there. Jobs tried to buy Dropbox, so i wonder why he went down the route of iCloud. Jobs clearly saw how good Dropbox was and apparently told the guys "he could crush them". Its going to to take a cold day in hell for iCloud to achieve this. Dropbox is WORTH paying for !!!