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Apple Envisioned New Mac Pro's 'Cheese Grater' Design Years Ago
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I agree. I don't understand who this machine is aimed at with the price point for the spec. It's been greeted with a big 'meh' from the 3d bods I know (the NVIDIA thing doesn't help), the contacts I have who work in big company edit suites have already moved away from Final Cut over to PCs (and also report that their management is, strangely for business, actually price sensitive) and the small studio's and one man bands like myself who are still stuck in Mac production pipelines to whom this would be an ideal machine to handle everything from 3d rendering and big AE jobs down to more mundane print work incresingly need value for money. (I don't know anyone who isn't being endlessly asked to cut costs by clients...) Perhaps, though, there's big markets elsewhere for this (scientific community?) and possibly the cachet of having such an obviously expensive machine on your desk will work for lots of people but we'll see.
If it doesn't have dust filters on the front the dust will be inside the case as well.
My current PC case has a big grill in the front allowing for 3, 120mm fans to be installed but it's also entirely covered with a dust filter. Without the dust filter my case would be full of dust.
This design is over 15 years old and still looks better...
Has a better starting price too
Yeah interesting indeed.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/292400-intel-amd-7nm-epyc-vs-xeon-computex
Intel is just in damage control mode.
Xeon Platinum 9282 also severely overpowers the Epyc Rome Platform in power consumption. But of course Intel forgot to mention this critical detail.
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PG27UQ is the first and only gaming monitor with DisplayHDR 1000 certification, the display industry's fully open standard specifying HDR quality, including luminance, colour gamut, bit depth and rise time that targets not only gaming monitors, but also displays for professionals, enthusiasts and content-creators.
It's not just for gaming.
Ports on the front don't spoil the aesthetics for me and they're much more convenient in some situations.
How does one mitigate dust in that thing?
“Introducing iVac. Hose sold separately.”
“Introducing iVac. Hose sold separately.”
Full agreement. A decent upgrade to the TB display, 4K and/or 5K retina, with Ethernet, USB 3, USB-C/TB, maybe SD card reader, audio ports; speakers, camera and mic; built to a quality Apple spec and Apple-branded. Get us out of dongle-hell. Ethernet and USB are not going away any time soon.
A display that can be used with the Mini, a dock for Laptops etc. LG has been a fiasco.
Wow, alot of people around here are drinking Ive's "Ports are BAD" kool-aid. You folks are gonna love Ive's upcoming 4"x4" ( and 1 nanometer thin ) Siri only - Cloud only computer design.
Why is Apple saying this out loud? If they envisioned this years ago, they could have DONE IT years ago. People are giving Apple way to much credit, this is a souped up Cheese Grater. It doesn't take years and years to essentially update a design you are already have and know.
More evidence from Apple that computers are their lowest priority. And Pro Computers are even lower than that.
Maybe all those extra years we had to wait was just Apple deciding how obscenely expensive they could get away with pricing it.
Why is Apple saying this out loud? If they envisioned this years ago, they could have DONE IT years ago. People are giving Apple way to much credit, this is a souped up Cheese Grater. It doesn't take years and years to essentially update a design you are already have and know.
More evidence from Apple that computers are their lowest priority. And Pro Computers are even lower than that.
Maybe all those extra years we had to wait was just Apple deciding how obscenely expensive they could get away with pricing it.
I second your comment. Coming form a mechanical engineering background I think the design of this machine is so far ahead of the giant shoebox computer cases. I am curious how the connections work to the power button and thunderbolt ports on top of the case to allow complete removal but fully functioning when the case is closed.
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Do you think that it is also possible those handles will also serve to pull the Mac Pro out of a rack when it is laid on its side?
You know every builder and painter in the land has at least a small van, and even a little VW caddy is like £170 a month (plus an arrangement free of £1500, thats £7.5k on a 3 year lease, and you get nothing at the end of that term. These Mac Pros will sell for a couple of grand easy after 3 years use. They really are not a big outlay for anyone making a half decent salary out of using it.
The TVLogic monitor comes with multiple SDI inputs with is an industry standard in broadcast and post-production facilities. It also comes with "feet". Apple should include a more affordable stand and offer the "Pro Stand" as an option.
Great post. You are absolutely correct. Apple is targeting a very specific group of customers who require the best AND use OSX. Most of the comments I read are from users or people who will probably never have this station, but yet complain about design choices, compromises made by Apple... You are spot on with your link on the screen. People complain about the price of the XDR displays but had no clue as to what the competition is for this product.
I own a 30" ACD + 27" display with the infamous maxed up trash can... Never had to complain about the trash can and I am considering switching to the new Mac Pro... My only complaint is not the stand for the screen... it is the size of the base hard drive. But i am guessing that most "pro" users have only the OS and some apps on the 256gb HD, most of their files are on RAID configurations away from the computer.
thanks for being a realist and pragmatic person
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My main complaint is that they left out the "enthusiast" in their Mac Pro and XDR display.
I did buy my 4,1 and Dell U2711 at a post studio's house sale in LA 7 years ago for about a thousand dollars and some change. It was the base 2.66 model with only 8 gb of ram and no Hard Drive, I doubt I'll have the same luck in 4 years with the current Mac Pro.
It would have been nice to see a "mini" Pro with just 4 slots and either a less technically advanced monitor or a scaled down 4k 27 inch version.
They can say they are targeting at anyone they want, it does not mean it is appropriate. It is probably a fine monitor, but as I noted before, it is 5” smaller, not even 4K (UHD only), about 8 million pixels vs. 20.4 million, 600 nits vs. 1,000, (peaks at 1,000 vs. 1,600), and is only 97% of the P3 color space. Just not in the same league.
It's not even that they left out the enthusiast. I think they still potentially left out companies both small and large. even at a large facility with many designers, animators, editors, etc. there is likely only a small group of them that will need workstations fitted with some of these expansion options, and an even smaller group that will need this kind of reference monitor. So you're then left with what to do with the other users. For the MacS environment your only other options are Mac Mini, iMac, iMac Pro. That may be feasible for some companies, but it won't be for others.
This design is SOOOOO much more elegant!This design is over 15 years old and still looks better...
Minimalist with graceful curves.
The new design screams: "I'm a Kardashian"
Too little, too late. Most of the real users for this sort of workstation have all gone to Windows or Linux.
1 processor? Stupid. Adding on cores is good still 1 processor.
Really expensive options, more stupid. No filter for dust? Most expensive video stand ever.
The wheels are cool but probably 500 dollars.
I know they will sell some to really hard core (get it) mac users but give me a break.
1 processor? Stupid. Adding on cores is good still 1 processor.
Really expensive options, more stupid. No filter for dust? Most expensive video stand ever.
The wheels are cool but probably 500 dollars.
I know they will sell some to really hard core (get it) mac users but give me a break.
This design is over 15 years old and still looks better...
Agree. I have a late 2005 G5 that I've recently put some LED fans into. Looks better than the typical RBG gaming rig to me.
When it comes to the Mac Pro, not the display, it's more like an average engine and drive train dressed up like a Formula 1 and priced like a Formula 1.
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Pretty sure it's only an homage to this:
