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This design is over 15 years old and still looks better...

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I got a 2010 one - then handles are a tragically bad piece of design.
 
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If you don't like it or can't afford it, don't buy it.

It still fits inside the section 179 amounts, so it's basically your_tax_bracket% off. But really, a Mac Mini with 32GB of RAM, a 512GB drive and an ultra wide monitor is more practical.
 
Nooo - its a pro workstation. It needs XLR connectors - or 1/4 inch jacks (balanced - one per channel) at the least! And a 3.5"... no! 5.25" drive bay (not for a drive - for the audio breakout box!)

(NB: semi-joking please don't reply too seriously).

hehe … as long as they're Neutrix gold!
 
If it's in a rack, you're not going to open up the side very easily. Not sure what's so tough about moving it out from under a desk. I used to do that anyway on the side-door G4's. Not good to service a computer w/ all the cords plugged in.

Rack rails let the computer slide forward out of the rack. That's how all rack servers are built. There's nothing bad servicing a computer if you unplug it. Look at any enterprise computer, like Dell Optiplexes and HP Elites. They all have big access handle on the side.
 
Rack rails let the computer slide forward out of the rack. That's how all rack servers are built. There's nothing bad servicing a computer if you unplug it. Look at any enterprise computer, like Dell Optiplexes and HP Elites. They all have big access handle on the side.

If I read the news correctly, the new MacPro will come in a rack model but what we're seeing now is not that.
 
The handles work fine grabbing from the top. We have these at work.

The Apple handles are form over function.

With handles on the front, and the computer sitting on the floor, that would mean one handle is on the floor.

If I were going to lift a 70 lb computer (or a 40 lb Mac Pro) off the floor to move it, I'd much rather have two handles at the top. Rather than one handle at the top front, and another at the bottom touching the floor.
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If I read the news correctly, the new MacPro will come in a rack model but what we're seeing now is not that.

That's correct. The rack-mount version of the new Mac Pro will be released in the Fall.
 
If you don't like it or can't afford it, don't buy it.

It still fits inside the section 179 amounts, so it's basically your_tax_bracket% off. But really, a Mac Mini with 32GB of RAM, a 512GB drive and an ultra wide monitor is more practical.

Section 179 cannot be used if your company is in the red, which is where this machine will put it :)

However if you ARE making a profit, of course you can burn it on this thing.

Or you can lower your salary to show a profit, then burn it on this thing.

Either way, it's your money to burn.
 
Just for reference, this is the sort of monitors the new Apple Pro Display XDR is set to compete with:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...m_318g_31_1_true_4k_monitor_4096x2160_10.html

They will sell these to entertainment studios mainly and these won't care about having to pay for a stand for $999, they will probably get the VESA adapter or maybe even get custom adapters to fit exactly what they need so the all outrage about the stand price is ridiculous when you put things in context.

It's like Sunday drivers feeking outraged at the price price of Formula 1 tyres as if they could use the Formula 1 to its full potential in the first place.

apple isn't competing with that professional tvlogic trust me, that's an industry standard display used by professional editors in BTCA editorial, I'm sure the Apple XDR will be great but not on this level and not aimed at this level and it wouldn't matter how much dosh it came to, charging for a stand is a complete pi ss take really disgusting move not about money just because they can, not one person minted or otherwise would be happy about paying for a 1000 stand that holds a monitor up. Suitup is that a play on situp you're a genius kid.
 
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When Apple finally delivered an actual pro machine for pro prices the people waiting for consumer grade parts in an expandable tower style consumer product were disappointed. Maybe, someday, this will happen. At least Apple finally acknowledges a tower or rack machine is necessary for some applications.
The case is great (pun not intended) IMO, and if Apple ever makes it available for a consumer-level machine, I would be extremely happy
 
I want those optional wheels on mine, so I can roll it from room to room unless I decide to buy one for every room in my house.
 
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

Granted it's 4k @ 27 inches, it's basically the big daddy of all monitors... it's got everything, including 144hz refresh rate. For 2 grand, not 6.... WITH A STAND! LOL @ Apple

Except, it is only 600 nits vs. 1000, is not 4K, but UHD (3840x2160 or about 8million pixels vs. 20.4 million), has a contrast ratio of 1000:1 (50,000:1 in some HDR modes) vs. 1,000,000:1 and is 5” smaller diagonally and is not full P3, so not comparable at all. Nice try though.
 
He has to say that after the recent, surprise, mass exodus from Jonny's design team.
You can just imagine the conversation among them "I'm not having my name put next to a cheese grater!"

Great product move by Apple. It'll be affectionately known as the cheese grater
 
Just for reference, this is the sort of monitors the new Apple Pro Display XDR is set to compete with:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...m_318g_31_1_true_4k_monitor_4096x2160_10.html

They will sell these to entertainment studios mainly and these won't care about having to pay for a stand for $999, they will probably get the VESA adapter or maybe even get custom adapters to fit exactly what they need so the all outrage about the stand price is ridiculous when you put things in context.

It's like Sunday drivers feeking outraged at the price price of Formula 1 tyres as if they could use the Formula 1 to its full potential in the first place.

Nah, that one's still relatively affordable. This is the one they're really trying to gun for at $45K:
https://www.shopfsi.com/XM310K-p/xm310k.htm
 
Just for reference, this is the sort of monitors the new Apple Pro Display XDR is set to compete with:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...m_318g_31_1_true_4k_monitor_4096x2160_10.html

They will sell these to entertainment studios mainly and these won't care about having to pay for a stand for $999, they will probably get the VESA adapter or maybe even get custom adapters to fit exactly what they need so the all outrage about the stand price is ridiculous when you put things in context.

It's like Sunday drivers feeking outraged at the price price of Formula 1 tyres as if they could use the Formula 1 to its full potential in the first place.

It's $1000 bucks for a hunk of aluminum the cost Apple barely $50 to make. Get off your unicorn telling folks they shouldn't be outraged at the price 'cause they aren't the potential customer. This talk of businesses just blindly buying them at such a stupid price is disturbing. As if the costs wouldn't be passed down the line or claimed on tax thru loopholes. Then you wonder why infrastructure is left to rot. Need I remind you the very audience at the presentation was filled with kind of folk in the market for this thing and they didn't cheer upon hearing a stand costs a grand. Let alone a matte screen is also $1000. People were already baulking when Apple started charging $1000+ for phone then a tablet. Now they want $!000 for just metal & glass. Can't gouge customers my a$$

ps F1 teams don't buy tyres they are provided by the sponsoring manufacturer.
 
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Yup. And don't even get me started on the scale at which we buy workstations... However, no need to posture about such things. Intel reference, blah, blah. Yeah, the cheap clones do that. Apple, HP, sometimes Dell, and others engineer their own (based on Intel specs).

The proof is in reality. Go ahead, anyone, walk on over to Lenovo.com, or Dell.com, or HP.com and customize yourself a Xeon based workstation identical (or as close as possible) to the entry level new Mac Pro...

I did this yesterday at Hp.com (a Z4) - $7200. I just did it a few minutes ago at Lenovo.com (a P720) - $6360 (sans a few features that just aren't available from them, like 10gbe)... The reality is that capable workstations are expensive, and Apple now has a solid offering at an outstanding price point of $5999.

As long as your workflow doesn't need cores or ram, I guess - mine does (3d Art).

Velocitymicro.com

$6,000 gets you:

32 core TR/128Gb Ram/WX5100 (workstation version of the rx580), 1Tb Samsung NVMe, Blu-Ray Burner, 1400 watt PSU.

or

24 core Eypc/128Gb Ram/WX5100, 1Tb Samsung NVMe, Blue-Ray Burner, 1,400 PSU.

The problem isn't that the 7,1 starts at $6,000 - it is that you get so little for that $6,000:

8 cores? in 2019?
a 2 year old consumer video card
PCIe 3.0, which will EOL by years end - If I can get a $50 board with PCIe 4.0 this fall, why couldn't apple deliver one? Oh yea, sticking with Intel.
 
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If you don't like it or can't afford it, don't buy it.

It still fits inside the section 179 amounts, so it's basically your_tax_bracket% off. But really, a Mac Mini with 32GB of RAM, a 512GB drive and an ultra wide monitor is more practical.

Yes one day will be like the pro in Mac mini and the pro like the quantum

Everyone in this forum is right from how ugly the computer is or how beautiful, how expensive or powerful, bad, good, etc. Yes all this is important but more important is where we go and how compacted the technology becomes and how fast we achieve more time.

I already lost time of how powerful are the microprocessors

compared to what?

Most people use computers still to press the all alphabet.

If you asked to put a pro on the iPad you will be happy?
Sure but when that day comes it would be for a kid with a giant rubber protector case sale for $30 On prime Day and you computer system in the cloud that show you images

you know like Iron Man

And people still how ugly the computer is or how beautiful, how expensive or powerful, bad, good, etc.

Life is good
 
It's a very mediocre Pro machine. It's a one socket Intel Purley platform, which is about 2 years old now. It's equivalent to an HP Z6 G4, which Apple used as a comparison. However HPs are notoriously overpriced. You can get this same machine with an extra processor socket from Lenovo as a ThinkStation P920 with a starting price of $1279.

The huge thing though is all of the PC workstation manufacturers know many domains like scientific computing and machine learning need NVidia, not Apple's proprietary compute on mediocre AMD GPUs.

Unless you need MacOS for your pro application, PCs are simply more attractive.

Can you link me to an exact build of this same machine and monitor for the price Apple is offering it? Go build a shopping cart with the literal equivalent...I'd love to see this.
 
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