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Apple Estimated to Retake Title of World's Largest Smartphone Vendor

jayducharme said:
I know several people who got an Android variety as their first smartphone. By the time their contract was up for renewal, they all had switched to iPhones. Apple must be doing something right.
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Funny, because i know several that had iPhones and went to Androids, mainly Samsung and HTC.

Then I know several more that had Android handsets on Sprint and Verizon, and when the iPhone finally became available to them, they just upgraded to different Android handsets.

Google is definitely doing something right.
 
Digital Skunk said:
Funny, because i know several that had iPhones and went to Androids, mainly Samsung and HTC.

Then I know several more that had Android handsets on Sprint and Verizon, and when the iPhone finally became available to them, they just upgraded to different Android handsets.

Google is definitely doing something right.
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I know 2 people who pass anecdotes off as facts.
 
Digital Skunk said:
This is pretty much all you'll ever get on iPhone forums. At least this comment is short and doesn't insult anyone.
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Wrong person to cite.
Im constantly criticizing Apple for their misteps (No iPhone 4S redesign, GPU mediocrity, BTO pricing issues, Apple Tax, MacPro/MacBookPro stagnancy). But I try to identify their accomplishments as well.

Save the assumptions for well known fanboys.
 
Almost all my friends that got new phones over christmas got iPhones, and come to me saying that they don't know how they were living without one before..
I Told them I know
 
Navdakilla said:
Almost all my friends that got new phones over christmas got iPhones, and come to me saying that they don't know how they were living without one before..
I Told them I know
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And they will probably tell the same story when they switch to Android. That's the human nature.
 
Digital Skunk said:
When a user replaces his/her broken iPhone, Apple and the service provider gets the replacement added to their sold/activated count.
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I don't get your point. Shouldn't it get added?
And, do you mean other manufacturers don't do that?
 
Michael Scrip said:
Apple is at a disadvantage because they only offer one type of phone.

Samsung has all types: slab, qwerty, slider, big, small, etc. Samsung is simply able to cover a wider audience.

And yet Apple still sold more phones than Samsung this quarter...
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That's because Samsung throws different models out to see what sticks.

Apple designed iPhone to be useful for most people (as the AT&T 80% iPhone market share shows)
 
gnasher729 said:
There was a report a while ago that the Amazon Kindle Fire outsold the iPad 2. Well, it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB White WiFi. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB White 3G. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB Black WiFi. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB Black 3G. And it outsold the four 32 GB and the four 64 GB iPads. Actually, I think the AT&T and Verizon models were counted separately as well. So they outsold each of 18 iPad 2 models.
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Funny. If you could provide the source, it'd be great.
 
It always amazes me to find so many Android users on a site that is supposely aimed at consumers of Apple products.
 
Consultant said:
That's because Samsung throws different models out to see what sticks.

Apple designed iPhone to be useful for most people (as the AT&T 80% iPhone market share shows)
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Apple did indeed shoot for the 90% of users.

If Apple keeps its current development path for the iPhone, we should see a major redesign every two years and a minor internal redesign in the alternate years, with 3 generations in production at any time.

That's how Apple makes its margins: long, stable production runs increase reliability and lowers unit cost, the results of which speak for itself.

Let Android OEM's battle for the bleeding edge; it's a battle that Samsung is happy to fight, as long as it keeps the bulk of Android profits.

At some point though, Googorola is going to tire at the loss of smartphone profits and step on the OEM's. That will be the end of Android as we see it today.
 
Consultant said:
That's because Samsung throws different models out to see what sticks.

Apple designed iPhone to be useful for most people (as the AT&T 80% iPhone market share shows)
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Yeah but the only good Android Phone released on AT&T during 4Q was the Galaxy S2 and it was hard to find due to AT&T not supply them very well to their outlets. They were not shipping them and they did not really give a good time span on it either.

So while the iPhone on AT&T got a double boost. Pent up demand followed by the competing phones being near impossible to find (AT&T fault)

Yes the iPhone should be high but at the same token 80% got some massive boost in it. From both AT&T screw ups, and pent up demand.
 
uknowimright said:
so someone can't have an android phone and a macbook and post here?
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I get your point but from what I can see in this forum, this combination is unlikely. Also, it seems these days that MacRumors is more about iOS devices than anything else anyways...
 
Michael Scrip said:
Apple is at a disadvantage because they only offer one type of phone.

Samsung has all types: slab, qwerty, slider, big, small, etc. Samsung is simply able to cover a wider audience.

And yet Apple still sold more phones than Samsung this quarter...
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It's not a disadvantage. It's Apple's choice. They can produce as many models as they want. They just think that they an sell more by having just a single model because their marketing relies on hype. There would not be that much hype about iPhones if a new model was released every month.
 
perealb said:
I get your point but from what I can see in this forum, this combination is unlikely. Also, it seems these days that MacRumors is more about iOS devices than anything else anyways...
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please explain how this is unlikely?

do you want 100% Apple users only?
 
voonyx said:
I know 2 people who pass anecdotes off as facts.
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Good, that's the point. I hope more people like you catch on to the uselessness of those kinds of comments.

toddybody said:
Wrong person to cite.
Im constantly criticizing Apple for their misteps (No iPhone 4S redesign, GPU mediocrity, BTO pricing issues, Apple Tax, MacPro/MacBookPro stagnancy). But I try to identify their accomplishments as well.

Save the assumptions for well known fanboys.
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You don't, I was just using it as an example to show why I don't think AidenShaw is doing such a terrible thing as adding some perspective. It's also why I don't say too many good things about other manufacturers products. It's just too much of a headache.

mijail said:
I don't get your point. Shouldn't it get added?
And, do you mean other manufacturers don't do that?
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Most other manufacturers don't. No one counts Asurions numbers, and since most of it's phones are just refurbs I doubt they ever will. Fact is that the numbers in this type of analysis is always going to be skewed in every possible way.

Apple usually ships at most 3 or 4 phones, while Samsung and HTC (HTC UK recently stating that they will try NOT to punch out a phone every other day) ship at least 30 different handsets on just about all available carriers.

Knowing this, it's just weird when user dream of Apple dominating the cell phone market. It just won't happen.
 
perealb said:
It always amazes me to find so many Android users on a site that is supposely aimed at consumers of Apple products.
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Why? People who like interesting devices are not required to limit themselves to one brand.

Heck, I bet that many of the older Android users here have bought and used more types of computers (all the way back to early Apples) than you could possibly imagine. Their iPhones or Galaxies are just one more thing in a long list of devices they've owned, with many more yet to come.

Adults have no problem speaking freely about their things, because they've learned that pieces of glass and metal are not the important things in life.
 
kdarling said:
Why? People who like interesting devices are not required to limit themselves to one brand.....
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Agreed! I know many Apple fans have been Palm OS users before . . . especially since Apple was a Palm device vendor at one point. Going from a Treo 600 to a featureless iPhone 1 was a hard move that I am sure many actual smartphone users didn't want to make.

Or, as in my case, I didn't think it was worth the money and time to jump from Sprint to AT&T and pay full price for a phone.
 
jayducharme said:
I know several people who got an Android variety as their first smartphone. By the time their contract was up for renewal, they all had switched to iPhones. Apple must be doing something right.
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That was definitely the case for me. Bought my MBP before my EVO, so was familiar with Apple-y stuff. Broke contract with Sprint to get a 4S on AT&T this month, actually. It is an awesome phone.
 
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