Apple Estimated to Retake Title of World's Largest Smartphone Vendor

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Apple Estimated to Retake Title of World's Largest Smartphone Vendor

Apple Estimated to TAKE OVER THE World And become the ONLY Smartphone Vendor



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[darknight]

Landfill

COMING SOON
488 million smartphones in landfill

 

[Steve121178]

When you look at it on a global scale, Apple only has 6% of all phone shipments

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/...ia_and_samsung_in_global_mobile_phone_market/

iPhone grabs 6% of world phone shipments
But Nokia and Samsung tower over Apple
By Tony Smith • Get more from this author
27th January 2012 09:20 GMT
Apple increased its share of the world phone market in Q4 2011, accounting for 8.3 per cent of mobile shipments, but it's still a small fry compared to the likes of Nokia and Samsung.

Look at 2011 as a whole. Some 1.55bn handsets shipped during the year, but only six per cent of them - 713.9m units - had the iPhone brand, market watcher Strategy Analytics said.

Nokia, for all its woes, took more than a quarter of the market - 26.9 per cent, to be precise - and Samsung accounted for a further 21.1 per cent.

These figures show that while headlines may focus on smartphones, these gadgets are still being massively outsold by lesser kit designed for voice and a handful of other functions.

Earlier this week, it was revealed that Nokia has sold more than 1.5bn Series 40 handsets, for example.

Of course, smartphones remain far more lucrative than ordinary phones. Hence Apple's financial success and Nokia's monetary woes.

Apple raised its game during 2011, almost doubling its 2010 mobile market share of 3.5 per cent.

Nokia slid from a 2010 share of 33.3 per cent; Samsung was up a little: this time last year, SA said its 2010 share was 20.6 per cent.

Some 1.36bn phones shipped in 2010, making for year-on-year growth of 14.1 per cent.

 

[gnasher729]

I find it mind blowing that Apple has 3 phones that cumulatively sell this well. How many Android phones does Samsung sell now...?

If you look at another article, it has been claimed that iPhone 3 is only 4 percent and iPhone 4 only 7 percent of the iPhone sales. If that applies world wide, then it is actually _one_ phone selling about 33-34 million, one phone selling about 2.5 million, and one selling 1.5 million in this quarter.

Do you mean that non-Apple fans said something like "Look, the Flower Power iMac is selling less than the Dalmation iMac, therefore Windows is winning!"?

There was a report a while ago that the Amazon Kindle Fire outsold the iPad 2. Well, it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB White WiFi. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB White 3G. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB Black WiFi. And it outsold the iPad 2 16 GB Black 3G. And it outsold the four 32 GB and the four 64 GB iPads. Actually, I think the AT&T and Verizon models were counted separately as well. So they outsold each of 18 iPad 2 models.

Apple is at a disadvantage because they only offer one type of phone.

Samsung has all types: slab, qwerty, slider, big, small, etc. Samsung is simply able to cover a wider audience.

And yet Apple still sold more phones than Samsung this quarter...

It very much depends on what Apple wants to achieve, and what you think they want to achieve.

If Apple's goal was to be the #1 in the smartphone market by market share, they could release the "iPhone nano", which is a very limited version of the iPhone, at a very very low price (less than $100 full price), possibly with two or three variations, and sell gazillions of them. If they sold basically an iPod that can make phone calls, I would be quite happy with that. Or they could just buy HTC's phone business (they have enough money to make an offer that HTC can't refuse), and that would make them #1 automatically. But that isn't Apple's goal.

Apple's goal is to sell an awful lot of expensive phones with excellent margins. Whether that makes them #1 or #10, that doesn't matter to Apple. It only matters on MacRumors for bragging rights. And for Apple's goals, I think their strategy works quite well.

 

[jacob11]

Apple is at a disadvantage because they only offer one type of phone.

Samsung has all types: slab, qwerty, slider, big, small, etc. Samsung is simply able to cover a wider audience.

And yet Apple still sold more phones than Samsung this quarter...

Not only Samsung but Nokia also offer variety types more than Samsung.
On the other hand Apple just provide touch phones but quality truly saying those are quality phones.

 

[BornAgainMac]

Is it me or the chart and the article and headline don't match.

 

[*LTD*]

When you look at it on a global scale, Apple only has 6% of all phone shipments

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/...ia_and_samsung_in_global_mobile_phone_market/

Ok. So?

Lol, Apple doesn't make cheap dumb-phones.

 

[Tiger8]

iPhones are just fashion accessories/statements.

When the average iphone user uses there phone to send text messages and surf facebook what a waste.

Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful!

 

[MacGizmo]

Pffft!

The only number that counts is how many iPhones I personally own that do what I want them to do and do it well. Apple owns 100% of the "my phone" market - and that's the only number that means anything at all to me.

 

[jacobj]

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Why does it matter?

Back when Imacs came in various toxic plastic colors, the Apple fans wanted to count them all together.

Why would they now want to divide Android phones based on minor variations?

Oh wait. I know the answer.

Put bluntly, you and the zealous Apple fanboys have ruined this site. This used to be a place where those who liked Apple products and the innovation that the company brought could come and discuss what may happen and what had happened.

There has always been anti windows postings (I've made a few myself- usually after a bad day at work. I've also made some anti Apple ones when the "it just works" mantra didn't quite hold true), but people like you seem to be filling some void in your life with this stuff. Why dedicate so much of your time to antagonising others?

The reality is that it is human nature to make assumptions and generalisations. If we didn't then we would get anywhere on a daily basis. We have to challenge individual and group assumptions where there is reason to believe that a shift in attitude would lead to a better society. Challenging for the sake of needing to feel right is a little pathetic.

What I'm getting to is that pulling holes in an argument is easy. There is never a definitive correct answer where views are expressed about issues in which there are too many variables.

My question to you and those that argue with you is this: is changing the general view about Apple going to make the world a better place? What headline negative impact as to the way Apple operates motivates you to put in the effort? I assume it is not a case of you simply enjoying the sport. Surely antagnosing others and upsetting them is not your motivation? Surely you are not so self-righteous as to believe that you have no areas where you are harmlessly generalist in your views?

Ultimately I now have to sift through dozens of posts all the time just to get to points that don't relate to anti-Apple or pro-Apple battles.

Aiden: why?

 

[voonyx]

It woulda been a miracle if they didn't outsell Samsung what with the holiday season and the wait for the iphone 4s and the dead quarter that android had.......wait...

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Ok. So?

Lol, Apple doesn't make cheap dumb-phones.

6% of global shipments when you only make smartphones is apparently something to scoff at...

 

[Ultrafied]

Put bluntly, you and the zealous Apple fanboys have ruined this site. This used to be a place where those who liked Apple products and the innovation that the company brought could come and discuss what may happen and what had happened.

There has always been anti windows postings (I've made a few myself- usually after a bad day at work. I've also made some anti Apple ones when the "it just works" mantra didn't quite hold true), but people like you seem to be filling some void in your life with this stuff. Why dedicate so much of your time to antagonising others?

The reality is that it is human nature to make assumptions and generalisations. If we didn't then we would get anywhere on a daily basis. We have to challenge individual and group assumptions where there is reason to believe that a shift in attitude would lead to a better society. Challenging for the sake of needing to feel right is a little pathetic.

What I'm getting to is that pulling holes in an argument is easy. There is never a definitive correct answer where views are expressed about issues in which there are too many variables.

My question to you and those that argue with you is this: is changing the general view about Apple going to make the world a better place? What headline negative impact as to the way Apple operates motivates you to put in the effort? I assume it is not a case of you simply enjoying the sport. Surely antagnosing others and upsetting them is not your motivation? Surely you are not so self-righteous as to believe that you have no areas where you are harmlessly generalist in your views?

Ultimately I now have to sift through dozens of posts all the time just to get to points that don't relate to anti-Apple or pro-Apple battles.

Aiden: why?

I agree. ... and now, yours being one of them that I have to sift through as well.

 

[tombelton]

ooohh all this newsy about how amazingy appley is makes me want timmy cookys cocky even more!

 

[SactoGuy18]

The only things that has kept Apple from totally dominating the smartphone market is the lack of 3GPP LTE support and NFC mobile payment support.

I do think both with be added this year with the next-generation iPhone, thanks to new, very power-efficient cellphone chipsets from Broadcom and Qualcomm. Particularly scary is Apple adding NFC support that is compatible from the Sony FeliCa standard and the proposed ISIS standard for mobile payments, which could wipe out feature phone sales in Japan and South Korea (mobile payment systems included are the only advantage of feature phones in Japan and South Korea over most smartphones).

 

[*LTD*]

It woulda been a miracle if they didn't outsell Samsung what with the holiday season and the wait for the iphone 4s and the dead quarter that android had.......wait...

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6% of global shipments when you only make smartphones is apparently something to scoff at...

I'm not sure what the point is in even discussing non-smartphone phones. This is 2012. Junk like that is being phased out. Smartphones are killing the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that occupy the "phone" market. This is why Nokia's failure, for example, was so epic.

 

[toddybody]

Apple definitely deserves it, kudos.


Granted, I miss the days (2007) when people would come up and ask "is that an iPhone?!" *with much awe

 

[voonyx]

I'm not sure what the point is in even discussing non-smartphone phones. This is 2012. Junk like that is being phased out. Smartphones are killing the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that occupy the "phone" market. This is why Nokia's failure, for example, was so epic.

Well it's obvious why non-smartphones are being discussed. It's so people can say things like "Apple ONLY has 6% of global phone shipments"

Trying to minimize Apple's success is something many people here do, and laughing at a company that makes three models of one phone and has 6% of global shipments of ALL phones is a sound argument to those people.

 

[shompa]

It's amazing that Samsung can build parts for both iPhone and its own range. I guess that other phone companies also use Samsung parts. Samsung have to make parts for over 100 million phones per quarter. wow...

I don't know if PA Semi have enough man power to design two SoCs for Apple. But Apple will sometime need dual foundry SoCs both from Samsung and TSMC.

 

[nick_elt]

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Just wait to the figures next year. Everyone I know is skipping the 4s as it wasnt that much of an upgrade and will get the next iphone.

 

[you people smh]

One caveat for numbers released by Strategy Analytics and other research firms comes from the fact that Samsung no longer reports mobile phone sales numbers, ending the practice in mid-2010 for competitive reasons. Consequently, observers can only estimate Samsung's sales numbers based on the company's financial performance and other evidence.

It's always encouraging when an article reporting numbers uses a caveat saying essentially that it's all a guess.

 

[shompa]

The only things that has kept Apple from totally dominating the smartphone market is the lack of 3GPP LTE support and NFC mobile payment support.

I do think both with be added this year with the next-generation iPhone, thanks to new, very power-efficient cellphone chipsets from Broadcom and Qualcomm. Particularly scary is Apple adding NFC support that is compatible from the Sony FeliCa standard and the proposed ISIS standard for mobile payments, which could wipe out feature phone sales in Japan and South Korea (mobile payment systems included are the only advantage of feature phones in Japan and South Korea over most smartphones).

Please explain to me why you need more then 21megabit from a Phone? What are you doing that needs that bandwidth? How big is you data plan? A very small % of people are tech nerds that buy their stuff after Mhz, LTE, BT 4.0, WAP and all other buzzwords. If Buzzwords/technicality sold Ericsson would be the largest phone company in the word.

iOS 6 will have some fun NFC stuff. Apple will probably do what they always do: they invent an own standard to leapfrog the competition. Apple will bring this standard around the world. That is the only way it can get Apple quality, not some subpar play technology.

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Apple Estimated to Retake Title of World's Largest Smartphone Vendor

Apple Estimated to TAKE OVER THE World And become the ONLY Smartphone Vendor



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I have argued for that Apple should buy Black water security and take over the world. At least buy a country where Apple fans can move to and live in peace and harmony. No crime, unemployment and big Steve Jobs statues everywhere.

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COMING SOON
488 million smartphones in landfill

This is actually an interesting point. I know tons of people who have bought iPhones since Gen1.

All phones are still in use today handed down to friend and family.
I have not seen anything like that with another phone brand.

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I'm not sure what the point is in even discussing non-smartphone phones. This is 2012. Junk like that is being phased out. Smartphones are killing the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that occupy the "phone" market. This is why Nokia's failure, for example, was so epic.

Nokia was unique. They could build a 50 dollar phone and make a profit from it.
Not every single person on the earth needs an smartphone. There is still place for "dumb" phones.
Its a bit strange that people are prepared to pay 650 dollar for a PHONE. An AppleTV have the same parts exempt 3G and screen. Somehow its sold for 100 dollar.

Still. I pay 650 dollar for an iPhone each year since I enjoy the product but Apple will have harder and harder to introduce features that are "must buy".

Iphone 5/iOS 6 will have NFC, 3D GPS maps and LTE + a redesign. Its probably a must buy. But the next iOS. I have no idea what to add.

 

[definitive]

Here's the thing, if Apple didn't wait for so long to release the iPhone to the other mobile providers, and didn't get in to the exclusive contract with AT&T, then they'd probably be still at the top right now. Unfortunately for them, Android phones flooded the market on the networks which didn't carry iPhone, and those who didn't use AT&T went with the alternative instead.

 

[jacobj]

I agree. ... and now, yours being one of them that I have to sift through as well.

I'm done for the next few months ;-)

 

[Digital Skunk]

Put bluntly, you and the zealous Apple fanboys have ruined this site. This used to be a place where those who liked Apple products and the innovation that the company brought could come and discuss what may happen and what had happened.

Aiden: why?

To be honest, I welcome perspective on these forums more now than a good conversation; which is hard to find especially on anything relating to iOS. Aiden Shaw does at times make people think; as opposed to just clamouring about how iPhone rules and everything else is __________ <-- place ridiculous insult about Android here.

Even in this topic, everyone seems to think that owning an iPhone and Apple stock just makes you an expert on everything iPhone. And how saying something contrary to them just means you're an ________ <-- place childish insult and/or snide remark here.

For example:

Apple definitely deserves it, kudos.

Granted, I miss the days (2007) when people would come up and ask "is that an iPhone?!" *with much awe

This is pretty much all you'll ever get on iPhone forums. At least this comment is short and doesn't insult anyone.

As for being ON TOPIC, posters need to remember that Apple retail does in fact sell it's users replacement phones, skewing the numbers for Apple as well.

When a user replaces his/her broken iPhone, Apple and the service provider gets the replacement added to their sold/activated count.

 

[jayducharme]

I know several people who got an Android variety as their first smartphone. By the time their contract was up for renewal, they all had switched to iPhones. Apple must be doing something right.