Apple Event for September 9th?
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disconsolator
macrumors newbie
More like the 16th
It seems to me the 16th is a more likely date with the student promotion ending on the 15th, a monday. Unless apple is feeling unreasonably generous and wants to give students new laptops AND new ipod touches. Yeah right
It seems to me the 16th is a more likely date with the student promotion ending on the 15th, a monday. Unless apple is feeling unreasonably generous and wants to give students new laptops AND new ipod touches. Yeah right
Makes sense to me.
They want to move the existing stock, and the educational promo is a good way to do just that. 
t0mat0
macrumors 603
The product and effect on gross margins might be being overhyped, due to potentially overly ambitious/non-realistic views on potential products in the pipeline they could have.
e.g. check out http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...pods-sept-22-iphone-os-21-itunes-80/#comments
Peter Oppenheimer's comments might be being overblown. Might be, as we can easily hypothesise multitouch being added, iTablets, form factor changes - all sorts of things to affect gross margin, or be called a "product transition".
PO talked about transitions/ affects on gross margins in many other prior earning calls -
e.g. F2Q08 - gross margin decline pegged in part on a product transition - Leopard coming in.
F4Q07 - had a product transition of an all new iPod line up, with gross margin guided down in part due to impact of recent product transitions.
F3Q07 - Expected gross margin to be ~29.5%, with hey presto, BTS, commodity costs, and product transitions pegged as the reasons.
Not to knock being hopeful for a iTablet - heck, Wacom didn't even have a product out shipping last year...
CWallace
macrumors G5
The Mac Pro will stay Intel because nVidia does not make a Xeon chipset and they may not have a QPI license which, if true, would not allow them to make a chipset that works with the dual-processor Core i7/Nehalems which the next Mac Pro will certainly use.
Yes, Apple could likely keep the iMac on the current "Santa Rosa Special" platform until such point they migrate to the mobile Core i7/Nehalem platform in a year. I do not believe Apple is moving to nVidia for just a single generation, but instead for the long-haul, the MacBook, MacBook Pro and Mac Mini will all be using nVidia's chipset when they are migrated to Core i7/Nehalem so the iMac will have to migrate to that platform as well. And if nVidia does have (or obtains) a QPI license, then the Mac Pro could also be moved to nVidia.
iMacmatician
macrumors 601
So revised iPods and redesigned notebooks can be counted as a product transition. Well that makes sense.
I'm not that hopeful for a tablet eitherbut for different reasons.
CWallace
macrumors G5
I'd get the Touch. What it gives up in capacity it more then makes up in versatility.
Breegy
macrumors 6502
People keep saying the 16th and no sooner for new products, and it's soooo annoying.
Just a recap of things that were release last year before the iPod deal was over:
Brand new iMacs!
Updated MacBook Pros!
Newly introduced iPod touches!
Did I miss anything?
It doesn't matter about the stupid, freaking promotion. It's very likely that they can and will release something before the promo is over. There is clauses in the promo that eliminates any NEW version of iPod touch or iPod nano, if one were to be released during the promo from counting as part of the rebate. Meaning you wouldn't get a free touch or nano if they were upgraded or revised during this period. (This also works with the clause 'While supplies last.')
If they update any of the computers, the promotion says ANY MAC COMPTUER (I think there was one exception, like the Mini and Pro or something), meaning that any computer, whether it is updated or not, will still count for the iPod deal, unless the iPods are updated. Just like the iMac still counted for the deal last year.
So, please, stop saying after the 15th. Realise that new products are often released during the Back to School promotion and the promotion won't stop Apple from releasing a new product if they want to do so. And lets move on with the discussion. Here, I'll even give you a topic:
How many products do you think Apple is willing to introduce at one time, especially after the MobileMe/iPhone incident?
Now, all of this is my understanding, but I may be wrong about the details; still the fact that things are release regardless of promos remains the same. If I am wrong, please correct me. If not, can we move on?
Just a recap of things that were release last year before the iPod deal was over:
Brand new iMacs!
Updated MacBook Pros!
Newly introduced iPod touches!
Did I miss anything?
It doesn't matter about the stupid, freaking promotion. It's very likely that they can and will release something before the promo is over. There is clauses in the promo that eliminates any NEW version of iPod touch or iPod nano, if one were to be released during the promo from counting as part of the rebate. Meaning you wouldn't get a free touch or nano if they were upgraded or revised during this period. (This also works with the clause 'While supplies last.')
If they update any of the computers, the promotion says ANY MAC COMPTUER (I think there was one exception, like the Mini and Pro or something), meaning that any computer, whether it is updated or not, will still count for the iPod deal, unless the iPods are updated. Just like the iMac still counted for the deal last year.
So, please, stop saying after the 15th. Realise that new products are often released during the Back to School promotion and the promotion won't stop Apple from releasing a new product if they want to do so. And lets move on with the discussion. Here, I'll even give you a topic:
How many products do you think Apple is willing to introduce at one time, especially after the MobileMe/iPhone incident?
Now, all of this is my understanding, but I may be wrong about the details; still the fact that things are release regardless of promos remains the same. If I am wrong, please correct me. If not, can we move on?
when I was at my mac store on saturday, I peeked into the back of the store and saw a really large pallet of boxes that was still shrink-wrapped.
I know, I know, there's like 1/100th of a chance that it actually meant something, but - considering that rumors of hardware updates are thick in the air I was a little bit excited.
I'd love to see the price of the iPod classic go down...
I know, I know, there's like 1/100th of a chance that it actually meant something, but - considering that rumors of hardware updates are thick in the air I was a little bit excited.
I'd love to see the price of the iPod classic go down...
Eric S.
macrumors 68040
That statement was about Q4, which we're in right now. Q4 ends at the end of September.
I have one of each. It entirely depends on what your usage will be. The classic is terrific as a music player, the screen is a bit small for video. The touch has an amazing range of capabilities (and even more now thanks to the app store), the screen size is better for video, but its music interface is extremely clumsy.
Of course, new models may change everything.
Breegy
macrumors 6502
I agree that the music interface is clumsy. I had trouble finding and playing and adjusting volumes on my friend's Touch. The classic is way easier for that and click-wheel works perfectly just for this very thing.
I'm wanting to see the touch go up in capacity before I consider one. Until then my classic will do just fine, but I am excited about getting a touch within the next few years, with the apps store and all.
So I guess it really does depend on your usage. If it's mostly strictly for music, go for the classic for easy music browsing and more storage capacity. If you want apps and more games and things, go for the touch.
They should make an application where it opens your music up with the top half being like a Classic screen and then the bottom half have a on-screen click wheel to navigate. If only I was good with Apps. I'd make one and make tonnes of money
Lesser Evets
macrumors 68040
The closer we get to this September event the less it would see plausible. At the most they might unveil something really cool for orders in late November, but I doubt Apple would reveal something like a tablet before it is almost ready to ship.
Apple will most likely do big revamps on computers in January.
Snowcat001
macrumors regular
Last year it was exactly ONE WEEK. (these invitations go to the press, but rumor sites get their hands on them rather quick
)Snowcat001
macrumors regular
9to5mac says this is going down September 16th, so I guess Ipods and macbooks (pro's) should be launched on another date... 9th?????
Eric S.
macrumors 68040
I can't see Apple waiting until January. Then they would miss the Christmas buying season along with everything else they have missed so far (a big portion of the back-to-school market, plus giving lead time to other manufacturers' Montevina products).
Lesser Evets
macrumors 68040
I used to think this too, then realized it just isn't the way Apple operates. And I suspect, not know, why they put stuff in mid-September and early January...
They clear out old stock!
Students and Christmas shoppers are the maggots on the Apple, eating the dead flesh, and cleaning the old stock out. Apple has sales in time for the big push to college and holidays, get the old crap out and bux back in, instead of just having loads of unwanted junk sitting around to be trashed or cannibalized and earning no cash for products made.
All that stuff 'no body buys' in January when they release it gets eaten up in the sales later in the year. Very tidy business work.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
Fixed. MacBooks and MacBook Pros sometime soon, iPods in September, possibly even iMacs before year's end, but they're not waiting that long.
bub9001
macrumors newbie
I can't hardly wait, will it be a new Mini, MacBook, MacBook Pro, Ipod, Itouch, or a Mid-range Tower? I hate to say this buy what ever it is I think I will buy it unless it's a Ipod. I have a Sony 816 and it rocks the crap out of any Ipod on the market, and it's open source. I don't know why anyone would buy an Ipod for the sound? I can understand if you have a Mac and you want to stay all with Apple, but the Ipod sounds pretty bad compared to all the Mp3 Players out there now.
In short please let it be a new Mini, I need a good Media Hub that doesn't sound like a Turbo Prop (Sony PS3). But if it's a MacBook in the sub $1000 dollar area, I could be swayed.
In short please let it be a new Mini, I need a good Media Hub that doesn't sound like a Turbo Prop (Sony PS3). But if it's a MacBook in the sub $1000 dollar area, I could be swayed.
Yup, me too - since December. I'm sick of waiting, but now that I've come so far, I insist on going all the way.
.Chris
macrumors 6502a
I say because of the problems we had with mobile me they may as well have a "super launch" DKA Digital media event. everything from ipods to itunes 8to new macs. just to make up for the trouble. This will also be the time they will truly apologize and announce brand new products as a way to say sorry and to some thanks for sticking with us