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Apple Event Live Blog: iPhone SE, iPad Air, Mac Studio, and More

JahBoolean said:
If you feel guild after mere minutes, that's all the clarity you need.

Nonwithstanding the fact that you contracted credit on that.
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I might just sleep on it.

Not worried about credit as it's interest free and i was pre-approved anyways. And I believe its a soft credit check.

My only guilt is over the fact that this is a "treat" and not a "necessity".
 
kittonian said:
Sure the performance may be great, but at the end of the day you are marketing a "studio quality" (whatever that means) larger Mac Mini for $6200 (properly config'd) where you can't upgrade anything, nor add additional hard drives. The cost is ridiculous, and the idea that "pros" want to put their computer on their desktop is just silly.

And before we continue, pros that need exceptional displays will most likely choose BenQ, not the overpriced Apple display that has awesome speakers no pro cares about. Just one example is, if you're an audio pro, I assure you that you will not be using the display's speakers.

Pros don't care about portability. If we need to go somewhere with a computer, we buy a laptop. What we do need is the ability to add things like:

- Recording Studio (PCIe card slots for Avid HDX)
- 3D Rendering (PCIe card slots for multiple GPUs - Even when the M1 Ultra has seemingly awesome GPU performance, you often need more)
- SATA (or even better SAS) drive bays for internal storage (I have 3 10TB drives, with 2 2TB SSD drives in my Mac Pro 2010 desktop right now)

Apple really needs to understand that if pros are going to spend that kind of money, they don't want everything soldered to the board, and they need to be able to add the items they require without resorting to buying external Thunderbolt chassis.

Once again, this is Tim's Apple and it is very disappointing. While I'm excited for the Mac Pro announcement (sometime in the future apparently), I'm not holding my breath for any kind of realistic price point to purchase one.
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Somebody else that gets it.
I have a Mac that has no expansion; MacPro (2013-2019). At least I can upgrade the memory and SSD, but I'm not buying a computer for $6k that I can't even put a PCIe card into.

It's an overpriced mini. Let's call it a Mini Plus. It is NOT a pro machine, no matter what Apple calls it.

No memory expansion.
No storage expansion.
No sperate video memory.
No PCIe cards.

Too expensive.

Hard pass.
 
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skaertus said:
Some random thoughts:
  1. The "Max" in the M1 Max is supposed to mean "Maximum", which is defined, by the Cambridge Dictionary, as "being the largest amount or number allowed or possible". I was not expecting Apple to release an even higher-end M1 Ultra, which is more than the Max. There is a serious nomenclature problem here.
  2. The M1 Ultra satisfies Tim Cook's desire to repeatedly upsell. M1 Ultra > M1 Max > M1 Pro > M1. What will power the Mac Pro?
  3. It puzzles me that the iPad Air and the iPad Pro have now the same processor. The 10.9-inch iPad Air sells for $599 (with 64 GB) and the 11-inch iPad Pro (with 128 GB) sells for $799. The 10.9-inch Air with 256 GB sells for $749; $150 for 192 GB storage is a total rip-off, but it still seems more worth it than the Pro.
  4. The high-end Mac Studio comes with 1 TB SSD only. Upgrading it to 2 TB costs $400, which is 10% of the overall price of the computer. Apple is again unashamedly overcharging for upgrades. And, even more unashamedly, 1 TB on the Mac Studio costs $400 ($0.4 per gigabyte), while 192 GB costs $150 on the iPad Air ($0.78 per gigabyte).
  5. The Studio Display costs $1,599, which is more affordable than what people were expecting. Still not "consumer-level", but it may find its way with creative professionals.
  6. Is the 27-inch iMac gone forever? Does it mean that the alternative is buying a Mac Mini ($699 minimum) or a Mac Studio ($1,999) plus the Studio Display ($1,599), plus mouse and keyboard, with an overall price tag much higher than the previous 27-inch iMac, just to have more wires and less convenience?
  7. How can the nano-texture glass cost $300 on the Studio Display and still cost $1,000 on the Pro Display XDR?
I appreciate Apple's products and the power it has put in the M1 processor. However, Apple's recent business and pricing tactics have driven me further and further away from its products. I am just hoping Qualcomm and/or Intel catch up with the M1 soon enough so there is more competition to put pressure on Apple.
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1) Let’s nitpick some more
2) It’s not up selling, it’s offering options. Most people won’t need ultra or max, but those who do will know exactly what they need
3) Air came after Pro. This year, the Pro will get another upgrade… because that’s how time works.
4) Overcharge is a relative term. For many, like me, it’s worth it.
5) It’s not meant to be a consumer display. Apple never claimed otherwise
6) Nobody knows
7) Probably the quality of the texturing. Again, who cares?
 
russell_314 said:
I think it’s a better choice for most pros because you can move that thing easily without having to lug around a display. I can imagine a YouTube content creator carrying one of them in his carry on. When you get to your destination you can always find a display to plug in.
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MKBHD is gonna be so hyped. No more iMac backpack.
 
iamdamian said:
I noticed this in their closing comments "So there's just one more Mac to progress to Apple Silicon, the Mac Pro - but that's for another day" I guess this can be read two ways - either they don't count the iMac because it's been progressed, or there will no longer be an iMac 27"

What's peoples thoughts??
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The 27" iMac is no longer available on the Apple website ... only as a refurbished model at pretty good prices.
 
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4jasontv said:
The issue is that at 32” it would just be a larger 4K display not a higher resolution display. Dell used to have this amazing 24” 4K display, but I haven’t seen one in forever. A 27” 5K is as close as one is going to get to a 24” 4K.
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On my desk right now is a pair of 24" 4K displays. (LG-24UD58s)

They are the smallest diagonal dimension displays I could find with 4K resolution. With 4K at this size I get the smallest possible pixels which provides the sharpest possible resolution. I could easily put a much larger 4K monitor on my desk but I would lose the incredible sharpness I get now.

Also, you can still pick the 24UD58s up at Newegg for <$300.
 
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We’ll it is the Mac I’ve been waiting to replace my old 2010 Mac Pro ..so it’s ordered
2 things however
“Ultra” made me sigh so that’s so they can market M2 chip next year or for the Mac Pro
Overpriced as usual, it’s a new Mac Mini format yes but no keyboard or mouse or screen..still it’s cheaper then what I thought it might be so..
 
iamdamian said:
I noticed this in their closing comments "So there's just one more Mac to progress to Apple Silicon, the Mac Pro - but that's for another day" I guess this can be read two ways - either they don't count the iMac because it's been progressed, or there will no longer be an iMac 27"

What's peoples thoughts??
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Deader than fried chicken.
 
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russell_314 said:
No it’s not a Mac Pro. Did you miss the part where he said the Mac Pro was coming out later? I agree that I would like an upgraded Mac mini. I think that’s what you’re wanting as well.
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figuratively speaking of course. A $4000+ desktop Mac is a Mac Pro. They may come out with something even more expensive, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is more power than 99% of computer users need. If there weren’t an actual Mac Pro probably getting announce at WWDC this would probably have been announced then.
 
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techwhiz said:
Somebody else that gets it.
I have a Mac that has no expansion; MacPro (2013-2019). At least I can upgrade the memory and SSD, but I'm not buying a computer for $6k that I can't even put a PCIe card into.

It's an overpriced mini. Let's call it a Mini Plus. It is NOT a pro machine, no matter what Apple calls it.

No memory expansion.
No storage expansion.
No sperate video memory.
No PCIe cards.

Too expensive.

Hard pass.
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You don’t want separate video memory. That’s too limiting. Having a ******** of unified memory is superior to that outdated method.

Buy the specs you need to future proof it some… that’s literally all you have to do lol
 
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pmiles said:
One word...

Overpriced.
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Maybe for you? Not for the intended market. Apple is selling Macs as fast as they can make them. What’s holding them back is this whole component shortage thing.

I mean that’s not a new complaint about anything Apple. People always grumble about the price but apparently they still buy the products. I mean you’re here so either you’re buying “overpriced” Apple products or you’re just here to complain. Either way it’s good discussion ?
 
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JimmyHook said:
1) Let’s nitpick some more
2) It’s not up selling, it’s offering options. Most people won’t need ultra or max, but those who do will know exactly what they need
3) Air came after Pro. This year, the Pro will get another upgrade… because that’s how time works.
4) Overcharge is a relative term. For many, like me, it’s worth it.
5) It’s not meant to be a consumer display. Apple never claimed otherwise
6) Nobody knows
7) Probably the quality of the texturing. Again, who cares?
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For point four, I think there is some additional economy of scale with integrated RAM. Are they charging a premium, sure, but they have historically had high-quality parts so it’s unlikely they are skimming on both ends.
 
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kittonian said:
Sure the performance may be great, but at the end of the day you are marketing a "studio quality" (whatever that means) larger Mac Mini for $6200 (properly config'd) where you can't upgrade anything, nor add additional hard drives. The cost is ridiculous, and the idea that "pros" want to put their computer on their desktop is just silly.

And before we continue, pros that need exceptional displays will most likely choose BenQ, not the overpriced Apple display that has awesome speakers no pro cares about. Just one example is, if you're an audio pro, I assure you that you will not be using the display's speakers.

Pros don't care about portability. If we need to go somewhere with a computer, we buy a laptop. What we do need is the ability to add things like:

- Recording Studio (PCIe card slots for Avid HDX)
- 3D Rendering (PCIe card slots for multiple GPUs - Even when the M1 Ultra has seemingly awesome GPU performance, you often need more)
- SATA (or even better SAS) drive bays for internal storage (I have 3 10TB drives, with 2 2TB SSD drives in my Mac Pro 2010 desktop right now)

Apple really needs to understand that if pros are going to spend that kind of money, they don't want everything soldered to the board, and they need to be able to add the items they require without resorting to buying external Thunderbolt chassis.

Once again, this is Tim's Apple and it is very disappointing. While I'm excited for the Mac Pro announcement (sometime in the future apparently), I'm not holding my breath for any kind of realistic price point to purchase one.
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Speak for yourself, not all pros. I’m a pro, and I’m ordering an Ultra config
 
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4jasontv said:
The issue is that at 32” it would just be a larger 4K display not a higher resolution display. Dell used to have this amazing 24” 4K display, but I haven’t seen one in forever. A 27” 5K is as close as one is going to get to a 24” 4K.
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That's exactly what I want though. A 4K-5K, 32"-34" display isn't going to look pixelated at all (still retina levels of PPI) and the larger physical size is much nicer to look at.

Once you use a large display, you can't ever be satisfied with small desktop monitors again.
 
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jakebrosy said:
On my desk right now is a pair of 24" 4K displays. (LG-24UD58s)

They are the smallest diagonal dimension displays I could find with 4K resolution. With 4K at this size I get the smallest possible pixels which provides the sharpest possible resolution. I could easily put a much larger 4K monitor on my desk but I would lose the incredible sharpness I get now.

Also, you can still pick the 24UD58s up at Newegg for <$300.
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These are solid displays.
 
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