What you said/wrote make so much sense, the Apple Silicon (Desktop/laptop) is yet to be seen. It is far to early to comment positively or negatively about the Apple Silicon. Let's wait till next week, that only 7days from now.
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Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]
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Why would I need to do that? I have my service provider for that.
So if three machines then I guess the previously rumored chips are 1 for each.
MacBook Air: 8 core ( 4 + 4 )
MacBook Pro 13": 12 core ( 4 + 8 )
MacBook Pro 16": 16 core ( 4 + 12 )
My guess is the 16" will top out around 8-9k on geekbench multi-core score.
MacBook Air: 8 core ( 4 + 4 )
MacBook Pro 13": 12 core ( 4 + 8 )
MacBook Pro 16": 16 core ( 4 + 12 )
My guess is the 16" will top out around 8-9k on geekbench multi-core score.
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Apple should keep the current familiar design with updating internals, Apple Silicon CPU/GPU than in near future when more stuff move on to SOC, MinLED screen,etc than redesign the case and look.
Apple should keep the current familiar design with updating internals, Apple Silicon CPU/GPU than in near future when more stuff move on to SOC, MinLED screen,etc than redesign the case and look.
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I just bought a nearly maxed out 16" so am glad I got the last of the Intel ones. I'll wait 2 or 3 cycles before moving to Apple Silicon.
A 12 performance core + 4 efficiency core config of the A14 would be at least 15-16k on Geekbench. I don't see much reason for Apple to go this high — maybe for a bigger desktop chip. Given their energy efficiency, an 8-core (+4 efficiency cores) A14 variant at 45W TDP will already be competitive with Zen 3 and Rocket Lake desktop-class CPUs
Bad timing. You'll probably be upset when a refreshed Intel 16" comes out next week and your model has lost a chunk of its value overnight.
While I can fully see why Apple would to snew chips in current form factors, I do look forward to the next physical redesign of their computer line. I could be wrong, but would it not be the first Apple computer(s) to not have Ive's stamp on it? Interested to see some post-Ive design muscle flexing.
They can be compared for the tasks they measure - however if you've ever seen specific benchmarking of CPUs for activities online you'll see that they vary wildly depending on task. One CPU can be 90% faster at something and not even in the ball park for the next activity.
Intel have things like Quick Sync which makes encoding incredible fast on their CPU, their own Xeon range doesn't have it so the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro can actually be slower than a top end iMac for encoding. We don't know what optimisations for desktop activities AS will have or won't have. We won't really be able to tell until it comes out and is benchmarked on the same tasks as the 10th gen Intel processor.
I am truly impressed by the Apple timeline. 2 years to replace anything from the MacBook Air to the Mac Pro means that they have a lot of confidence in their silicon, and 2 years is a super aggressive timeline.
As the proud owner of an August 2020 iMac 27'' I hope that Apple and developers alike are truly committed to supporting Intel silicon for the next several years at least, and that I won't find myself relegated to some legacy limbo...
As the proud owner of an August 2020 iMac 27'' I hope that Apple and developers alike are truly committed to supporting Intel silicon for the next several years at least, and that I won't find myself relegated to some legacy limbo...
Beyond pumped to see the 16" MBP, and what they did to keep it cool. And to keep the battery running a long time.
Exactly and the same could be said about Dell, HP and especially Lenovo who's Thinkpads haven't changed their boring look since the turn of the century. Why is that Apple needs to redesign laptops every 4 years. It's really not necessary. Is it really going to vastly change your computing? I think not.
I was hoping for a redesign. I love Apple's industrial design but current the MBPs look dated in the same way the iPhone 11 & 11pro did last year & this years iPhones do not.
It's the same with me that people call Jaguar (Jag u R) but should be (Jag war).
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ThinkPads are the most beautiful piece of technology ever created, right up there with the iPhone 5s.
Odd because I'm seeing just the opposite. Many people here pronounce Silicon, Silicone. The amount of ignorance here is ridiculous at times.
And Lenovo hasn't changed the ugly look of the Thinkpads and that's perhaps why they are the poorest selling product outside of business offices using them. There's nothing beautiful about them. Just a plain black laptop with a red nipple. Extremely dated, no innovative design, no innovations at all, but it's funny how people want Apple to change the look of MacBooks every 4 years and they are the most beautiful laptops in the industry.
It's no funny at all, on the contrary, perfectly rational. ThinkPads are already perfect, while Macbooks are not. If only ThinkPads were sold with MacOs..
Btw what you said about their popularity is analog to complaining that outside agriculture John Deere tractors are the poorest selling cars. Ot the 16" Pro outside the wannabe youtube star scene.
Thinkpads are perfect? LMAO. Thick bottom bezel. Washed out screens Warped screens. Yes they are still selling them with the screen bowing when it's closed. They are ugly. But if you love them so much and feel Apple is such trash then I don't know why you're here and not on the Thinkpad forum looking for the newest "innovative" one to buy. No computer is perfect but Apple gets it right much more than Thinkpads, especially when it comes to aesthetics. It has nothing to do with running MacOS. Thinkpads can't even compete with Dell or the SurfaceBooks. Nobody wants them.
Thanks for your feedback but I slightly mentioned Thinkpads in a full paragraph with other products and you're turning this discussion into something it's not. Let's leave it here and please move onto someone else?
Thinkpads were perfect in the early 90-ties. The problem is — they have barely changed in the last 20 years. Now most of the are just the run of the mill average quality laptops with below average specs. The keyboard is still decent, but that's about it.
Such mixed feelings about this: On one hand it's exciting and great, in general, to see Apple making their own chips and if these chips are good enough in laptop and desktops (as opposed to just phones and tablets) that may lead to some additional pressure on Intel and AMD to make their own chips better as well. On the other hand switching to an incompatible chipset locks the Mac ecosystem into another possible PPC scenario; where other chips simply started outperforming them so much that Mac systems no longer compete adequately. Plus we lose full-speed Windows compatibility. I can't predict how this will work out, but it doesn't give me all good feelings. Imagine if AMD keeps killing it like they have been for the past year or two, and five years from now AMD makes chips significantly faster than anything Apple or Intel produces at the same power-consumption? An Intel-based Mac architecture could easily switch over to AMD instead. An ARM-based Mac architecture would require massive investment to switch once again back to an Intel/AMD base. In the end I sure hope this works out of course, but I'm right at 50/50 excited/skeptical about the whole thing.
AMD has been in business making processors for mega years. If they haven't done it yet don't count on it. It's a different situation when you're making chips for many computer types. Apple creating their own chips means they can dedicate them only to their products. It doesn't matter about AMD killing it, I think Apple is tired of building their computers around another vendor's processors lessening the experience of using Macs due to thermals and graphics issues.