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I'm going the exact opposite direction. There is some vendor-specific Windows-only engineering software I need to use for work that I previously had a Boot Camp partition for, but it's not high performance (at all) so my solution is to just buy a garbage Windows laptop to keep around the office that I can break out when I need it.

Assuming that there are even rudimentary virtualized Windows options available eventually (hello, VirtualPC from the time long ago!), that'll probably be perfectly sufficient for everything I need other than playing the Valkyria Chronicles series games, which have moderate GPU needs and are Win-only.


Hey, man, not like the good old days of the 15" MBP I'm using, which has... let's see... zero upgradable parts.

I believe 2015 was the last time Apple released a laptop that had anything internally upgradable, and you haven't been able to upgrade anything other than the SSD since 2011. If you're harping on the upgradability of an Apple laptop at this point you either haven't bought one in a decade or are using the wrong brand of computer.
I have to say I loved an old Macbook I had that I could easily access the internals. I upgraded the RAM, upgraded the HD. I think I could have added another HD via an OWC hack that replaced the DVD player.
 
Thinkpads are perfect? LMAO. Thick bottom bezel. Washed out screens Warped screens. Yes they are still selling them with the screen bowing when it's closed. They are ugly. But if you love them so much and feel Apple is such trash then I don't know why you're here and not on the Thinkpad forum looking for the newest "innovative" one to buy. No computer is perfect but Apple gets it right much more than Thinkpads, especially when it comes to aesthetics. It has nothing to do with running MacOS. Thinkpads can't even compete with Dell or the SurfaceBooks. Nobody wants them.
Thanks for your feedback but I slightly mentioned Thinkpads in a full paragraph with other products and you're turning this discussion into something it's not. Let's leave it here and please move onto someone else?
You are clearly biased against ThinkPad and want to run away from argument. But fine with me, bye.
 
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Thinkpads were perfect in the early 90-ties. The problem is — they have barely changed in the last 20 years. Now most of the are just the run of the mill average quality laptops with below average specs. The keyboard is still decent, but that's about it.
Having a decent keyboard is no small thing in a mac forum..
 
I own a 2012 and a mid 2015 MBP, an imac, mac mini, and owned 4 previous MBPs and other intel machines going back to the core duos, I would have much rather seen a move to AMD Ryzen chips and Radeon 6000 GPUs, than see Apple start from scratch with new, unproven "low-power" chips. Unless these have 24-48 hr battery life, I'm not sure i'm interested. So many apps are going to be running under emulation or are just straight up not going to get re-coded.
 
Even if the 12-inch MacBook was Jony Ive's project, I think we'll see its return but not this month. I assume next year.
I don't think the 12" will ever return to the Mac lineup. The Mac’s role is not to compete with the iPad Pro in portability, but to handle more complex workflows - a task which goes hand in hand with a larger canvas. That's why I think 13" will remain the smallest screen size in the Mac laptop lineup.
 
Have they said anything about Boot Camp support / Running Windows 10 on this new CPU platform?
 
Have they said anything about Boot Camp support / Running Windows 10 on this new CPU platform?
There will not be Bootcamp support on Apple Silicon Macs. If you want to run other operating systems it will have to be via virtualization.
 
Make no mistake, these new laptops will impress. Big time.

You don’t launch a bold new platform with crap performance.

All eyes are on Apple to justify the switch over. They know it, and so do their investors and shareholders.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3-5x better than current hardware.

My only concern however, is pricing.
 
Hi everyone, I'm new here, but read macrumors for many years.

I'm looking forward to new CPU designs. That's my usual upgrade cycle.

Who else is still using a 2008 Macbook Aluminium Unibody?
Mine is 12 years old and still running without ANY issues. No scratches. Original charger. Battery via AliExpress
However, during the years I have replaced the HDD with a Samsung SSD and upgraded 2 GB Ram to 4 GB and a year ago to 8 GB. Currently it runs High Sierra unofficially. :)

Before that I owned a PowerBook 15" which I sold once Apple moved to Intel.

My iPad Pro feels a bit faster these days ;)
 
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I don't think the 12" will ever return to the Mac lineup. The Mac’s role is not to compete with the iPad Pro in portability, but to handle more complex workflows - a task which goes hand in hand with a larger canvas. That's why I think 13" will remain the smallest screen size in the Mac laptop lineup.
More complex workflows need first of all a decent desktop OS, then extended external display support. These are vastly more important than an extra inch.
 
More complex workflows need first of all a decent desktop OS, then extended external display support.
macOS is already a decent desktop OS that provides for complex workflows. It has been for well over a decade. What's your point?
 
macOS is already a decent desktop OS that provides for complex workflows. It has been for well over a decade. What's your point?
That ipads don't run macos. Having similar display sizes would make ipad pro and 12" macbooks competing products as much as an ipad and a cutting board.
 
Gurman has posted this to Twitter today...

Foxconn is building 13-inch Air and Pro, while Quanta is manufacturing the 16-inch MacBook Pro. “The smaller models are further ahead in production and at least those two laptops will be shown at next week’s event."
 
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Agh if they look exactly the same I'm not sure I will want to upgrade knowing there is a redesign coming next year. Still excited for the event though.
This feels like the intel transition where the first intel iMac looked exactly the same as the G5 iMac.
 
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If this turns out to be true, I'm surprised that Apple didn't take the opportunity to do the model redesign (at least making the 13.3" -> 14", whether it's mini-LED or not). Would've thought they'd take every opportunity to get more people to jump in on ASi.
We may be looking at the 13 inch MBP looking more like the 16 inch MBP though.

It was curious that Apple didn’t do this earlier in the year. We may soon find out why.
 
Oh FFS can we get a redesigned iMac already??
Curious, what are folk around here finding the main issue(s) to be with the current design?

Form: Too much bezel to the point of distraction? Just wanting something new to look at just because?

Function: Height adjustment? A desire for increased access to components for expandability? A desire to separate the monitor from the guts, for flexibility of use later? (I.e., re-doing the past)

Once something reaches a point of refinement after many years of development (and as Apple increasingly decreases the thickness & exterior features/interface ports to the point that there’s not much more to physically change or take away), really how much is left to redesign outside of returning to form factors of the past?
 
I own a 2012 and a mid 2015 MBP, an imac, mac mini, and owned 4 previous MBPs and other intel machines going back to the core duos, I would have much rather seen a move to AMD Ryzen chips and Radeon 6000 GPUs, than see Apple start from scratch with new, unproven "low-power" chips. Unless these have 24-48 hr battery life, I'm not sure i'm interested. So many apps are going to be running under emulation or are just straight up not going to get re-coded.

I'm not as excited as everyone else either. I was just getting excited that there are finally a couple Macs that are decent for gaming (the 2020 iMac with Radeon 5700 or 5700 XT and the MacBook Pro 16" with 5600M), but now Apple's going to go ruin it by making Macs that can't run Windows natively.
 
Curious, what are folk around here finding the main issue(s) to be with the current design?
Right now I am presented with the choice between a touchbar keyboard and the Air with cooling/performance issues. To add insult to injury, both have +20-30% weight compared to other flagship ultrabooks.
 
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Yep. Apple’s silicon may be able to sprint for short bursts, how how fast can it run a marathon?

I think you might be confusing Apple and Intel here. Apple CPUs don’t need ridiculous turbo boost to reach acceptable performance. A14 running at 3 ghz is more or less equivalent to an Intel Tiger Lake core running at 4.8 ghz. While consuming 75% less power. Which design do you think would win the battle of attrition in a thermally constrained environment? Just a hint: you could “fit” three Apple cores at full frequency in a 15W envelope where Intel would have to throttle a single core.
 
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