I was also expecting mostly iGPU style macbooks to be upgraded. But maybe they got an Apple GPU for the 16”? Or maybe a mix and match?
I think it’s just 11th gen and the next Navi AMD architecture for those.
can’t wait to know what’s up.
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Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]
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I was also expecting mostly iGPU style macbooks to be upgraded. But maybe they got an Apple GPU for the 16”? Or maybe a mix and match?
I think it’s just 11th gen and the next Navi AMD architecture for those.
can’t wait to know what’s up.
I agree, I hope Apple relaunches the 12-inch MacBook because Apple Silicon can do what the Core M couldn't. But as a pessimist, I have a bad feeling that next Tuesday we'll see a 13-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air with the same design as the current lineup, which is what Bloomberg is reporting. New designs next year with liquid retina and smaller enclosure.
It’s a shame and quite a missed opportunity to debut their chips without redesigned MacBooks to go along with them...
But then again, this is the same company who’ve kept the iPhone notch the same size and untouched for 3+ years (will now be 4 years) so I shouldn’t be surprised.
But then again, this is the same company who’ve kept the iPhone notch the same size and untouched for 3+ years (will now be 4 years) so I shouldn’t be surprised.
Everyone seems to ask for a design change, but I'm already fine with the actual designs. Particularly, I really don't see why the iMac design should change.
I don't think it should change all that much, but a slightly shorter chin and larger screens in the same body size (via reduced bezels) would make me pretty happy on that front.
Is that a good user experience for you cmaier? Somehow I think daily consumer usage is a little different than testing out your app in a development environment?
How is a company with so many resources unable to keep up with updating their products properly? It seems like under Steve they were able to keep on track a lot better, with only a fraction of the resources.
Wouldn't that require them to gimp the 13" significantly as to not have it be vastly superior to the 16"? And if it's not vastly superior on ARM vs Intel then what was the point anyway? What if they give the 13" ProMotion, crazy battery life, better performance, ALL of these features:
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But the 16", their more expensive high-end flagship super-'Pro' machine gets.... a 3% faster Intel chip and some AMD graphics? I don't see it. I think they need to bring the 16" along for the ride here.
what if it is dual socket system for 16" MBP? is it even possible? that would beat Intel CPU...
I may go for a Mac Mini now (and keep using my iPad with Logitech Combo Touch for mobile) and see how AS pans out over time. I was hoping for an "airier" Air, as the current really isn't all that light in comparison to others now. Better yet, a return of the 2 pound MacBook 12" format. THAT would be an instant buy for me, regardless of 3rd party software catching up.
I've said this in other threads, but ideally one of these 13" MacBooks is the the 12" MacBook with reduced bezels allowing for a 13" screen to fit ... hence a 13" MacBook ultra-portable. Only other changes I'd want is a HQ webcam, a second thunderbolt/USB4 (unlikely but one can hope), and touch ID (don't know if face ID would ever fit into an ultra-portable).
Is that your educated guess or based on a leak? The last leak/rumor I remember had stuff like 12-16 cores laid out for various Macbook entries.
People seem to equal Intel clock/core count with ARM clock/core count. ARM produces a fraction of the heat and requires a fraction of the power your every day Intel CPUs do with their crap 14nm++++. The same chassis with AS could go overdrive with CPU clocks and core count due to the vastly superior cooling mechanisms than passively cooled tablets and smartphones.
I'll also reiterate: we have yet to see a single info drop on what the Apple Desktop class Silicon has or looks. The A12Z from the DTK is not representative as it's a mere proof of concept that macOS runs on ARM / A chips.
16? I thought that will be an Intel. It would be cool if Apple does Silicon and Intel for comparison. I don’t think silicon would be ready for pro users yet.
So, considering that software developers need time to adapt apps to the ARM architecture, would now be a good time to still buy an Intel 16 inch Macbook? Specially if you don't want an off the self model? Or is it better to wait at this point for all the developers to catch up?
It depends on what kind of chips they use for the 13". At this stage, most likely bet is a quad core CPU and 8 core GPU. That won't be enough to outperform the Intel i9 (although the A14 will certainly be snappier in Safari
)Apple doesn't need a dGPU to compete with 50 watts Navi (or Ampere) chips. They would need a big SoC though (32+ GPU cores).
Under Steve Intel was regularly releasing two updates per year. Now Intel has a weird mix of process nodes, core technologies and model labels because they can't get their stuff together. I expect the upgrades to become much more predictable and regular with Apple Silicon.
That's not an interesting design. Those things have been rendered unnecessary, and no longer hinder design.