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Apple Executives Discuss the New A14 Chip and Apple's Approach to Chip Design
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Maybe maybe not. But it won’t be ”M”
(And ”A” stands for Apple, not “iphone).
Hopefully not too OT, but I hope Apple simplifies the lineup. Do we really need a regular model, an "Air" model, and a "Pro" model? To add insult to injury, do they need to release different sizes of the same line at different times to fracture the same lineup even more? I just wish we could have a regular model built for thinness, and a "Pro" model built a bit thicker to help with beefier CPU/GPUs & bigger battery. Do maybe 2 of each, released at the same time. Only difference between, say a 13" & 16" MBP is just that: one has a 13" screen, the other has a 16" screen. Maybe allow some customization of amount of RAM & SSD.
...um...even if that were the case, that would about double the performance of a low end MacBook today.
And literally all information available so far indicates that it is starting at about there and goes up significantly.
this could be the last GREAT ARM chip
I mean how small can they make a processor?
Seems like 5mm is the limit
next chip 2.5mm? I think not
would have to start piggy backing 2 5mm chips together at this point
I would never buy a professional MAC with an ARM chip
Just think INTEL and AMD is much better at this game of chip design for heavy intensive computing.
I mean how small can they make a processor?
Seems like 5mm is the limit
next chip 2.5mm? I think not
would have to start piggy backing 2 5mm chips together at this point
I would never buy a professional MAC with an ARM chip
Just think INTEL and AMD is much better at this game of chip design for heavy intensive computing.
Calling Apple's chip developers "amateurs" proves that you are _not_ anyone to be taken serious.
And if you call playing video games as "serious productivity", I can only feel sorry for your parents.
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As nice as it would be to have the lineup simplified, Apple's messy approach to SKU's these days is all about hitting specific price points it considers important. They also pay very little attention to what they have "now", and treat everything they iterate on as a "new" product. They add a feature, change the price and give it a new or recycled name, and push it out. The product makes sense on its own, but rarely makes sense compared to anything else in the lineup. It is very confusing and frustrating, but they have different people making these kinds of decisions today.
What are you, 12? "pwning" about summarizes how much I take your insight seriously.
Guess what: I've written my own benchmarks to compare them. And the chip inside an iPhone X (two generations behind A14) beats my quad core iMac severely.
Compared to Intel: Which chip has more registers? ARM. Which chip has more decode bandwidth? ARM. Which chip has more execution units? ARM. Which chip has bigger caches? ARM. Which chip does all that with a small percentage of the power consumption? ARM.
Nvidia’s purchase of ARM is looking like a smarter and smarter buy.
ARM is nolonger relegated to the realm of underpowered devices. They are really crushing everything in terms of performance, hell the worlds most powerful supercomputer is based on ARM.
I really think the future is ARM and it will eventually replace x86_64.
Intel’s bread and butter (server chips) are getting eaten from all sides by ARM/AMD. Wouldn’t like to be a stock holder of theirs.
I’m very curious to see how Intel vs ARM MacBook Pros stack up in outright performance and efficiency. As an EEE it never ceases to amaze me just how good Apple’s chip designers are. I hope they can work that same magic on their own modem.
ARM is nolonger relegated to the realm of underpowered devices. They are really crushing everything in terms of performance, hell the worlds most powerful supercomputer is based on ARM.
I really think the future is ARM and it will eventually replace x86_64.
Intel’s bread and butter (server chips) are getting eaten from all sides by ARM/AMD. Wouldn’t like to be a stock holder of theirs.
I’m very curious to see how Intel vs ARM MacBook Pros stack up in outright performance and efficiency. As an EEE it never ceases to amaze me just how good Apple’s chip designers are. I hope they can work that same magic on their own modem.
Strongly agree. I am always prefer Anand in depth analysis when talking about chips with factual data and comparison.
Well, I am not a gamer, but at least there's a person who uses gaming as income. Sounds dull, right?
But, that's it. Unless he was pro gamer who build income from twitch streaming.
I am working in art and CAD industries, one day my commission client is a gamer. I am glad because he was a loyal customer, having a great deal, thanks to his streaming which can generate around $10.000~$20.000 each stream.
From a different perspective, productivity doesn’t mean scratching Wacom tablet, twisting front tangent panel grading videos or mixing hundred of tracks in logic, so I can justify why he said Overwatch as his main productivity.
I think is better not to underestimate trivial jobs such as game streamer, maybe those gamer incomes have bigger than ourself which using pro gears and pro tools everyday, who knows?
Battery claims are more like "this car can drive 11 hours on one tank". I was told that on a German motorway with careful planning, avoiding all traffic, you can manage to empty the tank of a Ferrari within an hour (don't know if it's true, but definitely in two hours if you manage an average of 180mph). If I fill my car up, put a bit too much of air in the tyres, and don't mind annoying everyone by going 34mph in fourth gear, I can drive for 20 hours.
I thought about that a bit... On a desktop machine you don't care much about energy use. Laptops, some people don't care about energy use (at most an hour battery use on the train), some definitely do (on the road all day). So I could see two different designs with say 6 fast cores: One with 6x3.5 GHz, one with 3x3.5 GHz and 3x2.0 GHz. 3x2.0 GHz is not too slow and would take a lot lot less energy. So you would have one processor for maximum desktop power, and one that is reasonably fast for a very, very long time and still has considerable power either for a short time, or when plugged in. (My calculation is that 3.5 GHz takes three times the energy of 2.0 GHz).
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"Serious work"..... Like playing video games in Mom's basement "all day and night"....
This is my biggest concern with the transition. Given the differences in how Big Sur or later OS's might run using Apple Silicon, I still don't have a feel for how sophisticated processor intensive games might perform?
Apple marketing pre-2011: surprise and delight with (few) high quality products that all just work.
Apple marketing post-2011: leak as much crap to the public as possible and then storybook time with Dr. Cook.
Apple marketing post-2011: leak as much crap to the public as possible and then storybook time with Dr. Cook.
Pro gamers are nothing, sorry for you..
Fujitsu A64FX: Arm-powered Heart of World's Fastest Supercomputer
The Fujitsu A64FX is one of the most powerful Arm-based processors in the world, and the world's fastest supercomputer features over 150,000 of them.
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Enjoy your very very old cpu and gpu arhitecture
Remember, the Apple chip guy , is the former Intel chip that made intel who it was until 2012