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Apple Executives Talk About iPhone 14 Pro's Dynamic Island in New Interview

IzzyMandelbaum said:
How about then I'll make the same statement and I've had every iPhone since the 3G. It's not worth the upgrade for a stupid pill thing and an upgraded camera.
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And always on screen and improved GPS and probably other small improvements.

In any case, the value of the upgrade really depends on which phone you are upgrading from. It’s always a bad deal to upgrade from last year’s phone. The incremental updates are never worth that but after 2-3 years those updates add up and your upgrade gets you a noticeably improved phone.
 
law0915 said:
I doubt this user wants Android. He wants an *iPhone* without blobs.
Samsung don’t have black blobs on their
Phones, do they? So if they can do it, so can Apple, right?
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Samsung uses holepunch. Their S22, for example:

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the best part about it will be when apps get updated more for it. Shame they didn't decide to add notifications/texts in the island.
 
Here’s an innovative idea. Make the notch smaller? Instead of creating a pill cut out which is even lower on the screen, and takes away more screen real estate. The whole “dynamic island” is marketing BS
 
nfl_brah said:
Here’s an innovative idea. Make the notch smaller? Instead of creating a pill cut out which is even lower on the screen, and takes away more screen real estate. The whole “dynamic island” is marketing BS
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While its true that naming features makes it easier to market them to people; saying "Dynamic Island" is a lot easier than saying "cut-out bar which horizontally expands to display live activities and notifications which you can also long-press to vertically expand the bar to get additional information".
 
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nfl_brah said:
Here’s an innovative idea. Make the notch smaller? Instead of creating a pill cut out which is even lower on the screen, and takes away more screen real estate. The whole “dynamic island” is marketing BS
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The notch has gotten smaller and the DI has gotten more narrow. Yes, the cutouts for the DI do sit a little lower from the top of the screen but the screen on the pros got taller by about the same amount as the DI is lower so the usable safe area below remains the same.
 
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Back in the early days of the iPhone, when Apple started ramping up their presentations and Steve Jobs was hosting them, the innovations were so rapid that every event was filled with tons of surprises.

iOS and Apple mobile devices have improved and leveled out over the last five years or so, so the surprises are less often and less impactful. The Dynamic Island reveal was kind of a throwback to those moments where you would get a really cool unexpected feature.

At the end of the day, its just software trying to mask a dead spot on the screen, but I think they did a really good job of it. Sometimes its the simple things.
 
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GermanSuplex said:
Back in the early days of the iPhone, when Apple started ramping up their presentations and Steve Jobs was hosting them, the innovations were so rapid that every event was filled with tons of surprises.
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You’re misremembering. What were the “rapid innovations” between the iPhone and iPhone 3G?

(The last iPhone intro Steve did was the 4. So, the only year-over-year rapid innovations he presided over were the 3GS, which was mostly a speed bump and a few better internals, and the 4, which was indeed a big upgrade.)


 
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citysnaps said:
No. If the guy/gal is so put off by blobs then simply go with a phone that doesn't have blobs such as Samsung. And move on enjoying happiness. Easy. Whining on a public forum will not change Apple's direction nor make them magically go away with a software update.
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The whining is only coming from you, trying to defend Apple’s supreme stupidity.

You are telling someone that whining on a public forum won’t change Apple’s direction. Why are you on this public forum? Lol what do you get out of it? What direction do you think you’re changing with your opinion?

P.S. Apple added a setting within Safari to revert back to the old tab style when they changed it in iOS 15, so their stupidity has been known to flip flop.
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
P.S. Apple added a setting within Safari to revert back to the old tab style when they changed it in iOS 15, so their stupidity has been known to flip flop.
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Safari 15 tabs were controversial (they also made some mistakes along the way; the final version on iOS is pretty good, whereas the one on macOS is still a misfire). Dynamic Island is quite popular.
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
The whining is only coming from you, trying to defend Apple’s supreme stupidity.

You are telling someone that whining on a public forum won’t change Apple’s direction. Why are you on this public forum? Lol what do you get out of it? What direction do you think you’re changing with your opinion?

P.S. Apple added a setting within Safari to revert back to the old tab style when they changed it in iOS 15, so their stupidity has been known to flip flop.
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"The whining is only coming from you, trying to defend Apple’s supreme stupidity."

Oh stop it. No whining here. Nor am I defending anything.


"Why are you on this public forum? Lol what do you get out of it?

I enjoy keeping up with Apple tech. Though it's really none of your business.


"What direction do you think you’re changing with your opinion?"

None at all with respect to what I write here.

What's hilarious is you really believing Apple pays attention to unprofessional juvenile rants with characterizations like "hot garbage, sucks, crap, pos, etc" and on and on.

Want to give feedback to Apple to change something? Simply write an adult-level thoughtful letter (or an email) making your case to Craig F. He does answer them.
 
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chucker23n1 said:
They’ll never find a good way to hide the camera underneath the screen.



They’d be correct to complain.
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Intelligence and vision finds a way to do anything within the laws of physics.

My vision:

You don’t allow light to permeate through the screen for the camera or Face ID. You place 2 OLED screens in the phone. The main display will go completely to the very edge of the device, to-the-metal as it were, getting rid of all edge bezels. It will look like the iPhone 14, with a cutout where the camera and Face ID sensors are. They are however, recessed back off the glass, and a second, small, 0.5”x1” display rests underneath the main display. The second display overlaps the first display and software adapts it correctly to the main-display such that no perceptible image issues are revealed. Tiny electromagnets pull the secondary display overtop of the camera and Face ID sensors and into position against the main display, when the OS knows those aren’t being used. When you invoke the front-facing camera or an app is querying Face ID, the display is pulled down, behind the main display, and the sensors are revealed, seen as the pill-shape you see in the iPhone 14 Pro.

When the display is turned off or in always-on, the second screen is always pulled down such that Face ID will be ready in a more instantaneous-state.

This obviously requires extreme engineering and very very thin displays. There are other ideas too.
 
chucker23n1 said:
Safari 15 tabs were controversial (they also made some mistakes along the way; the final version on iOS is pretty good, whereas the one on macOS is still a misfire). Dynamic Island is quite popular.
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Dynamic Island is not popular. You have zero metrics to gauge that. It’s highly and insanely distracting and I can guarantee people would rather it not be dynamic given the distractibility.
 
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citysnaps said:
"The whining is only coming from you, trying to defend Apple’s supreme stupidity."

Oh stop it. No whining here. Nor am I defending anything.


"Why are you on this public forum? Lol what do you get out of it?

I enjoy keeping up with Apple tech. Though it's really none of your business.


"What direction do you think you’re changing with your opinion?"

None at all with respect to what I write here.

What's hilarious is you really believing Apple pays attention to unprofessional juvenile rants with characterizations like "hot garbage, sucks, crap, pos, etc" and on and on.

Want to give feedback to Apple to change something? Simply write an adult-level thoughtful letter (or an email) making your case to Craig F. He does answer them.
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Firstly, I already did write to Craig. And he responded (or someone on his staff).

Secondly, while it is important to be respectful in wording to strangers, the Apple executives and team leads rant using perverse language in email exchanges to one another. We know this because we’ve literally seen Apple emails from executives which were disclosed in multiple court cases they’ve been in.

That’s how impassioned people talk (and also angry people like Steve Jobs and Phil Schiller)
 
chucker23n1 said:
You’re misremembering. What were the “rapid innovations” between the iPhone and iPhone 3G?

(The last iPhone intro Steve did was the 4. So, the only year-over-year rapid innovations he presided over were the 3GS, which was mostly a speed bump and a few better internals, and the 4, which was indeed a big upgrade.)
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He also oversaw the 4S which was revealed right before his passing.
 
Infiniverse48 said:
Firstly, I already did write to Craig. And he responded (or someone on his staff).

Secondly, while it is important to be respectful in wording to strangers, the Apple executives and team leads rant using perverse language in email exchanges to one another. We know this because we’ve literally seen Apple emails from executives which were disclosed in multiple court cases they’ve been in.

That’s how impassioned people talk (and also angry people like Steve Jobs and Phil Schiller)
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OK, keep writing to Apple using impassioned language ("Apple's supreme stupidity," etc.) and let us know what kind of results you get.

You might not be aware that internal Apple emails are private (unless disclosed via court order). And being private anything they say between employees is OK.

Juvenile rants humiliating/disparaging a company or company employee on a public forum are not private. If someone from Apple happens to read one it will be immediately dismissed as immature/unprofessional/etc, written by a child, and not worthy of consideration. That's the way business works in the real world.
 
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darngooddesign said:
He also oversaw the 4S which was revealed right before his passing.
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I doubt he did much overseeing at that point, but the post said specifically “when Apple started ramping up their presentations and Steve Jobs was hosting them”, so the 4S does not count.
 
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