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So…With the vaccines, they modified the S2 subnit so that it could not open up and jab into the cell membranes if it connects with any ACE2 receptors. They thought this would make the spike protein safe, but this assumption is false and if they had taken the time to do more research before rushing to production they would have found that out. It may seem like the jabby bit is what damages the cells, but actually the major damage is caused by the S1 connecting to the ACE2 receptor. Just the S1, by itself without the S2, causes the ACE2 receptor to start the cell signaling processes that cause the mitochondrial damage, the pro-inflammatory response, and the blood clots.

Lets also consider a multitude of other reason.

1) Vaccine enhanced immune escape occurs when a poorly designed or weak vaccine helps create new variants. This happens in the exact same way as antibiotic resistance and regular old evolution. In the case of evolution, if you want to make an organism stronger, you put it under evolutionarily unfavorable conditions. This way you kill all the weak examples of the organism and just leave the strong ones. If you want to create heat resistant bacteria, put a petri dish full of the bacteria under moderately high heat that kills 99% of the bacteria. Save the 1% that were able to survive the heat, allow them to grow, and repeat the process over and over again while turning up the heat just a little each time. Do this until you have a population of bacteria that are all extremely heat resistant. The same process occurs with antibiotic resistance. When you only take half your meds, you kill 99% of the bacteria and you leave only the 1% that were slightly more resistant to the drugs and now they flourish. Before they were a small part of the population but you changed the conditions of their environment so that they have the advantage. You've killed all the normal bacteria that the mutant variants had to compete with so that now the antibiotic resistant bacteria are the alpha strain that have unlimited resources and so surge in population to take over your body. Well, the same thing happens with viruses and vaccines.

If you produce a vaccine that elicits a weak immune response, you are creating an unfavorable environment for the virus. This will kill the weak 99%, and leave those 1% of mutant virus particles that are not as hindered by the antibodies produced by the vaccine. Whereas before these mutants were only a tiny part of the population and would have been unlikely to transmit on to the next person. Now these mutant virus particles surge in number because they no longer have to compete with the other virus particles and your bodies defenses do not work. They are now highly likely to transmit on to the next person, whereas before they would not have been able to leave the host in which the mutation occured. In terms of creating variants, the current covid vaccines are very bad for three reasons. First, some vaccine manufacturers require two shots and now also boosters because the first shot produces a very weak immune response. Second, the vaccines are very leaky. Even after you have gotten a full immune response from both shots, you can still get and transmit the virus onto others. Well, which virus particles are likely to get passed on by a fully vaccinated person? Clearly they will be those virus particles that have the ability to multiply quickly while avoiding the antibodies produced by the vaccines. This will create very virulent and antibody resistant variants. Watch for these variants in the news as time goes on, we're already seeing things like Delta, Lambda, Eplsion, etc.

As we implement boosters, they will start to come at faster and faster rates, and over time data scientists will start to see timed correlations between the implementation of mass boosters and the emergence of new strains. Third, the vaccines do seem to help reduce the severity of the disease when people are infected (although this may change as new variants emerge). Why would this be a concern? Well, because of the leakiness of the vaccines we just spoke about. If you have very low symptoms but you can still get and transmit the virus, then you won't even realize that you're sick and you'll be spreading the virus to even more people as an asymptomatic carrier. So, these vaccines will only increase transmission by creating more and more asymptomatic carriers (although this may not be a bad thing, if everyone in the world gets the virus and everyone is asymptomatic, then there's really no need to care about covid anymore. But this is an unrealistic idealization that is unlikely to occur, some people will still get sick and die or suffer long haul covid). One additional point to address here is the claim that the unvaccinated are causing the emergence of new vaccine resistant variants. Let me be clear, the unvaccinated absolutely have the ability to facilitate the creation of new variants. However, it would require a statistically enormous number of people to get the virus before they could produce a new variant by chance. This is because a mutant virus particle will only make up a small portion of the virus population inside a person's body.

Therefore, it is highly unlikely that this particular particle will be able to spread to a new person. Whereas, in the vaccinated, their weak immune response specifically selects for the mutant variants. It is highly likely that if a vaccinated person passes on the virus to another person, the particles they pass on will be those that have the ability to escape from the immune response elicited by the vaccines. An analogy would be if you did an experiment with 500 room temperature petri dishes filled with bacteria and 500 heated petri dishes with bacteria, then found a heat resistant variant but didn't know which dish it came from. It would be absurd to think that the heat resistant strain of bacteria came from the room temperature petri dishes. It would possible, sure, but completely improbable that the heat resistant strain had suddenly appeared in a room temp petri dish. There would be no reason for it to become a dominant strain in that environment. Logically, statistically, and evolutionarily, it must have come from the heated petri dishes. This is a very basic and obvious conclusion, but the media and government bureaucrats in lab coats are trying to tell you that the absurd thing is true. They're trying to say that the unvaccinated (the room temperature petri dishes) are where the vaccine resistant strains are coming from.

Vaccine Enhanced Immune Escape:-

Evidence of cov2 immune escape: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/06/30/science.abi7994

Article from 2015 that explains how imperfect vaccination (like the Pfizer and moderna that require at least two shots to be effective) can create immune escape variants: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

Article from 2021 explains that unless vaccination is done quickly, there will be a high probability of escape mutants: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95025-3

2) There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: https://www.nature.com/articles/news050110-3#ref-CR1

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32920233/

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.22.432407v1

3). There is a potential for an autoimmune response from the vaccines. The vaccines that were developed for Sars-Cov-1 used the spike protein, just like the vaccines for Sars-Cov-2. Unfortunately, those vaccines caused the animals to develop serious autoimmune disorders and they ended up causing severe organ damage. There is a question about whether these new vaccines, which also focus on the spike protein, will also cause autoimmune disorders. The problem is that autoimmune disorders take time to develop and to show up. It may also take a long time before doctors and scientists can link the sudden rise in autoimmune disorders with these vaccines. Usually, in a vaccine trial you closely monitor your trial group for years and years. This allows you to identify the signals. With the current program of injecting millions of people, there will be no clear way to link causation to the vaccines and an increase in autoimmune disorders may just fly under the radar. We may not know for a very long time or never. Another concern is that because of the way the mRNA vaccines work, they cause your own cells to present as foreign entities. Your immune system comes over and starts killing your own cells. This has never been done before in human history. We have no idea if there will be long term consequences for this and whether this will lead to autoimmune disorders.

Research results of past vaccines for sars-cov1 that used the spike protein:-

Journal article from 2004 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2004/12/sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study

Journal article from 2005 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15755610/

Journal article from 2012 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

Journal article from 2020 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov vaccine (can't figure out if they're talking about cov1 or 2): https://jvi.asm.org/content/78/22/12672.abstract

Journal article from 2020 explains why immune disorders happen with covid vax, because human and Covid19 proteins are similar: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589909020300186

4). The mRNA vaccines are narrowly focused on just the spike protein when they could have been designed to target more proteins. The Covid19 coronavirus has 4 main proteins. There are 3 on its outside and 1 on the inside. The S-protein, the M-protein, and the E-protein, are on the outside, while the N-protein is on the inside. When you get a natural infection your body will likely produce antibodies for all or most of these proteins (depending on the function of your own unique immune system). We knew from studying Sars-Cov-1 that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are both neutralizing. In fact, they used exactly that knowledge when they designed the current vaccines. So, they could have tried to make vaccines that utilize the M-protein to avoid the potential for autoimmune disorders discussed above. But they didn't, they instead focused only on the S-protein. They could have designed the vaccines so that they present both the S-protein and the M-protein. This would have made the vaccines much more effective and less leaky since any mutated virus particles would have to have mutated both the S-protein and the M-protein to avoid the antibodies. Whereas, the current vaccines are narrowly focused on just the S-protein, meaning that the virus only has to mutate the one protein. It is exponentially harder for an organism to mutate two beneficial traits vs just mutating one beneficial trait. So, these vaccines are worse than they could have been.

Vaccine efficacy:-

Article explains how vaccine manufacturers have used relative risk reduction to determine that vaccine efficacy is ~90+%, however they should have used absolute risk reduction which would tell us that the vaccines will only reduce total covid cases by ~1%: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

Addendum to the above information. This video from 2013 explains the difference between relative and absolute risk reduction in a very simple way:

Article from 2005 explains that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are effective in neutralizing the sars-cov1 virus. However, the sars-cov2 vaccines only target the S-protein. This is evidence that the vaccine manufacturers could have chosen to make a superior mrna vax that produced two types of antibodies, but chose to focus narrowly on just the S-protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16544518/

Antibodies from vaccines start to drop within 6 months, get ready for endless boosters: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

5) There are alternative treatments that are effective against Covid19 but they are being suppressed. Why? Because the vaccines are not approved by the FDA but instead they are emergency use authorized only. The emergency use authorization can only be granted if "there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". Well, a growing body of scientific research is showing that both Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine (among other drugs) are adequate alternatives for early treatment of Covid19, and both of these drugs have been FDA approved for years. Unfortunately, that means they are now off patent and no one can make any money off of them. So, for the vaccines to continue to receive their EUA, the existence of these treatments must be suppressed. We have seen a huge amount of censorship of doctors who have been speaking out about these drugs.

Ivermectin:-

Emergency use authorization for the vaccines cannot be granted if there are effective alternative approved treatments for Covid19. So, if the pharmaceutical industry is going to make any money off covid, they must suppress the existence of any existing off patent drugs that may be effective in treating or preventing covid: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

Meta-analysis on the efficacy of Ivermectin in treating Covid19: https://journals.lww.com/americanth...in_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.aspx

A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial shows that Ivermectin is able to cure covid within 6 days for most people: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

More evidence that Ivermectin treatment leads to much faster recovery from Covid19: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26880

An NIH study reveals that a five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Ivermectin stops replication of covid: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3888155/

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties against covid: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-

Ivermectin binds to Covid19 proteins to block the virus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/

Evidence that Ivermectin can be effective as a prophylaxis, Argentinian frontline healthcare workers were given Ivermectin as a preventative and zero got sick with covid, whereas 58.2% of the control group who did not take Ivermectin got covid: https://www.buongiornosuedtirol.it/...-Efficacy-Iota-Carrageenan-and-Ivermectin.pdf

Ivermectin safe to give 12mg per day for 5 days: https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32506-6/fulltext

Ivermectin safely administered 60mg per day for 6 months: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559

Fluvoxamine:-

Fluvoxamine helps in covid treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33180097/

Covid leads to long term inflammation, useful for long haul Covid19 treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33391730/

Fluvoxamine has anti-inflammatory properties that can help treat covid: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.652688/full

Fluvoxamine targets sigma-1 to stop covid replication: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33403480/

6) We've known for decades that once you are infected with a virus or disease, your body creates a robust immune response, including memory T cells and B cells. These cells stick around so that you can quickly respond to a new infection. However, this fact is being completely ignored by vaccine pushers, they want a needle in every arm, even in the arms of those who do not need it, like the covid recovered. We might say, well covid is new and different, and perhaps immunity wanes after a time. This assumption was prudent in the beginning of the pandemic but now we have lots of evidence that the covid recovered have a near zero chance of getting sick again. Your body takes a few weeks and months to build up its antibodies after an infection. Most of the time the second infection takes place during this time frame. There is no reason to force every covid recovered patient to take an experimental drug, especially after that initial 3 month period after they have build up a sufficient immune response. If you still think that the miniscule chance that their immune system has failed makes them a danger, then why are these people not asked for proof of antibodies. It's because they don't actually care if you have antibodies. The vaccinated, without knowing whether they have antibodies or not, can walk around free, but a covid recovered patient, with proof of antibodies is still considered a danger. It's ass backwards and it is evidence that vax pushers don't actually care about immunity. It is just about getting a needle into every arm. The reason why they are doing this, I do not know I leave it up to you, but it doesn't make sense and I make a point of not going along with things that don't make sense.

Studies on covid recovered:-

No benefit from vaccination of previously infected individuals: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

Covid19 infection produces long lasting immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

Second article that covid19 infection produces life long immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

More evidence that covid19 infection produces long term immunity: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.19.21255739v1

Study of 600,000 covid recovered patients finds less than 1% reinfection rate over 10 months and an almost 0% risk in the first 7 months: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209951/pdf/RMV-9999-e2260.pdf

7). There is a growing amount of data that people are having severe reactions to the vaccines. It gets little to no coverage in the press, in some cases people who talk about their reactions on social media are being censored and called anti-vaxxers (I mean, how asinine to call someone who took the jab an anti-vaxxer) or fakers (I am sure some are faking for money/attention, but I highly doubt it's many of them given the social consequences for lying). Some senators have done press conferences with these people so they can tell their stories. There are publicly accessible government databases which contain reports of people who have had adverse reactions to the vaccines. These systems were put in place in the 90's to act as a sort of early warning system and to give transparency to the public after previous botched vaccine rollouts like the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. You can go and read these reports for yourself. There are websites that download the reports and present them to the public in a very readable manner (the government website from the 90's is not very good). There are concerns that these reports are being made in error or by bad actors. However, research has been done into these systems and it was found that more than 80% of the adverse reactions had seemingly no other cause or explaination aside from the vaccine. In the past, if a vaccine hit 50 deaths or a few hundred adverse reactions on these reporting systems, they would shutdown the vaccination program. As of writing this, for the covid vaccines the deaths are into the thousands and the serious adverse reactions are into the hundreds of thousands. Yet they just keep rolling with the shots and now are even forcibly manadating the shot.

VAERS:-

Analysis on the VAERS death data shows that in 86% of reports the vaccine cannot be ruled out as a causal factor in the death of the patient: https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_VAERS_Database_Interim_Results_and_Analysis

Addendum to the above link. OpenVAERS is a site that allows you to easily read VAERS reports and breaks down the numbers. The reports seem to be a lot of people who have comorbidities or are old, but there are also some really eye opening cases where young people experience horrible side effects. Read for yourself and make up your own mind about what the vax is doing to your fellow Americans: https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers
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Interestingly, almost all the vaccinated people have seemingly incorporated it into their identities, dating profiles, and insist (maybe even coerce) on others to commit to the same choice as them.

Love the intro to your reply, “get vaccinated, ignore amacfa”. Quite the opposite of what your saying in the above, is it a threat to your identity? Is it OK for people to chose?

yet again one makes a bunch of claims and posts as evidence for their theories a bunch of articles that don’t actually support those claims at all

the old forum was full of this strategy
 
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yet again one makes a bunch of claims and posts as evidence for their theories a bunch of articles that don’t actually support those claims at all

the old forum was full of this strategy
Another low effort “you’re wrong” without any explanation why.

The claims are supported by the studies and articles I provided. Please, go through it, tell me which is which not supported.
 
That's fascinating, because of this: "Pfizer/BioNTech and Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines remain at least as effective as protection from prior natural infection against the Delta variant."

"At least as effective is prior natural infection." The implication here being prior natural infection is effective against the Delta variant. Yet, to hear many health officials tell it, here in the U.S., at least, prior natural infection is no defense against Covid-19, much less the Delta variant. That you should still get vaccinated, even if you had been infected.

Then some turn around and claim these vaccines will prevent you from contracting Covid-19 and prevent you from spreading it, yet this is known to be entirely untrue. The best they can do is moderate your symptoms. Which explains why even those with vaccines may still be obliged to mask up.

There's a pattern to this kind of thing (again: At least here in the U.S.) that creates skepticism. E.g.: One year whomever determines these things got the annual influenza vaccine entirely wrong. The result being is what they were jabbing people with was less than something like 23% effective against the prevalent influenza that season. But still the incessant drumbeat from the health experts and the dominant "news" media that you should get your flu shot "because..."

This illustrates to why many people, myself included, have yet to have submitted to the stab. The health officials, the "news" media, etc. have been wrong so many times, in so many ways, and, at other times, have promulgated so much contradictory or downright false information, many people no longer trust a damn thing they're saying.

I'm one of those people, and here's an interesting note: I was recently briefly hospitalized. Three-to-four times I was asked "Have you been vaccinated against Covid-19?" "No," I responded. "Why not?" I was asked. "Because I remain unconvinced of the current vaccines' efficacy or safety," was my response.

In two of those exchanges I received the following counter-"arguments": The ER nurse. His response: "Well, get convinced," and he left it at that. One of the doctors or nurses asked "Did you get the shingles vaccine?" "No." "Pneumococcal vaccine?" "No." "Do you get the seasonal flu vaccines?" "No. I generally don't get sick, and, when I do, it's usually not severe." She dropped it.

I found neither of those counter-"arguments" compelling.

So, no: I haven't gotten "the stab." I don't plan to get it. If I am eventually compelled to do so, it will be the J&J vaccine, which is a true vaccine, rather than an mRNA experiment. (Yes, I know the Pfizer "vaccine" is now FDA approved. The FDA has approved a lot of stuff it was subsequently discovered it shouldn't have, over the years, so I regard that as an unconvincing argument.) I think there's another true vaccine with emergency use authorization in Europe?
I’m old enough to remember when these “vaccines“ were released that there was wide spread talk that they are so effective you might never need to get the flu shot ever again. Now we’re told two doses aren’t enough to handle COVID. 😂

Guess they had to figure out some way of getting rid of all the stuff sitting on shelves ready to expire.

Coincidentally, I just tripped-across this on another forum. I didn't go looking for it. It found me, you could say.


Full article: COVID Vaccine Injury Reports Jump by 27,000 in One Week as FDA Pulls ‘Bait and Switch’ With Pfizer Vaccine Approval

Anybody see any of this reported in the dominant "news" media? I haven't. (Then again, in all honesty: I rarely pay much heed to the stuff billed as "news" anymore.)
Nope, and you never will.

The reason you won't have seen articles about that in most of the media is that they're inaccurate and incredibly misleading. Including that within those "injury" numbers, they're going to be counting people who literally reported farting as a potential side effect.

In short, just because someone makes a report, doesn't mean that thing actually has anything to do with the treatment in question, because although the vaccines are very good at helping our immune systems to deal with the coronavirus, they obviously cannot prevent heartburn, food poisoning, cancer, flatulence, or a myriad of other bad/annoying things that can happen to people, including the reality that we all do eventually die.

As billions of doses of the authorised vaccines have been given around the word by now, including nearly 367 million in the US alone, you would obviously expect some of the people getting them to, just via bad luck, experience bad/annoying stuff; and every single one of the things I mentioned above, including flatulence, has indeed been reported by someone as something they experienced after they got vaccinated.

The key thing is that doesn’t actually mean that the vaccine *caused* those people to get food poisoning, or cancer, or fart the night away. Scientists figure that out by seeing if the number of people reporting something is higher than we’d expect by chance, which is how we found out that the Oxford/AZ vaccine slightly increases your risk (around 1 in 50,000-100,000, dying in a car accident here is around 1 in 240) of getting a (treatable) blood clot. That’s why here we switched to offering different vaccines for those who are younger than 40, as the odds are a little higher for those who are younger (1 in 50,000), and updated the info you get if you do get Oxford/AZ to tell you what the signs of a blood clot are, and to get medical attention if you experience them.
You mean like all the people that were either murdered, committed suicide, or died in vehicle accidents counted as COVID deaths? All those people with terminal illnesses such as cancer, kidney/heart/liver failure in their 80’s and 90’s? All those people the NY, PA, and NJ governors murdered by forcing them to accept contagious COVID patients? All the people that were refused the HCQ cocktail, ivermectin, and remdesivir? All those deaths didn’t have to happen But they did and they became part of the official death record. The actual death from COVID is somewhere around 4% of what is reported.

Ah, yes. The old "a few people who had the vaccine dying equals a few hundred thousand people who were unvaccinated dying".
Swine flu vaccine had far fewer deaths and was stopped because of it.

Missed this one, sorry @cola79.

They are definitely vaccines. A vaccine does not need to include the full virus, either attenuated or dead, in order to be considered a vaccine. Subunit vaccines use a small piece of the pathogen have been around for a long time, and include the widely used hepatitis B and acellular pertussis vaccines.

The currently authorised vaccines work by delivering either mRNA or DNA instructions to some of your cells, which causes the ribosomes (like protein printers) within them to produce a small piece of the coronavirus itself called the spike protein. This protein ends up anchored in place sticking out of the cell that made it, at which point your immune system can then see it, and learn to recognise and destroy it, just like it would with a subunit vaccine, only the overwhelming majority of the immune response takes place near the injection site. Note: it is impossible for them to change your DNA as neither mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna) or viral vector vaccines which use DNA (AZ and J&J) have the fancy enzymes to do it, and the mRNA vaccines can't even physically get into the nucleus where your DNA is.


There is no evidence of people being worse off if exposed to the virus after being vaccinated, it's very much the opposite. Unfortunately the COVID vaccines, like all vaccines, aren't perfect, as they're only an immune system training session. They can't magically make the immune system of a 90 year old as good as one of a healthy 20 year old, but they do unambiguously make it much less likely that you'll be infected, and much less likely that you'll get really ill and possibly die. That a small number of people still do, doesn't mean they don't work, it means they aren't perfect, just like how some people still die in car accidents even if they're wearing a seatbelt.


The outcome is massively based on the virus and whether people were previously vaccinated, especially because we still have somewhat limited actual treatments for those who are having serious cases.


While I don't knot where you are to confirm those numbers, I'm pleased to hear that few people have apparently died there. However it's not just that COVID can kill you, it's that it can make you very sick, and many (10-30%) of people are left with persistent symptoms after that (long COVID). I've got multiple friends in their 30s who are still very sick, many months after having COVID. There's increasingly strong evidence that the virus itself can actually get into the brain, which would also help explain this study that shows that many people who've previously been infected have lasting cognitive damage.


There are very many different things that help children build up their immune systems, but vaccines are actively one of the best ways for them to do so, which is why we vaccine children against a whole range of diseases, rather than risk them catching them and potentially getting very ill. Plus, obviously the COVID vaccines only provide protection against the coronavirus itself, kids can and will still get colds etc. Them getting vaccinated absolutely will not worsen their life expectancy.


I've already gone over why there really isn't anything to worry about there, especially considering the huge trials conducted around the world (the first ones started around 16 months ago), and the massive amount of data we've collected since they were authorised and billions of doses have been given. I wrote more about this in this earlier reply as well.

Funnily enough though, I am personally in a clinical trial for new vaccine which is an inactivated whole virus vaccine, but although I certainly hope that it proves to be safe and effective and gets authorised (in part because G7 countries are being really crap at following through on their commitments to those of us in trials when it comes to counting us as vaccinated for travel purposes), we currently do not know if it will prove to be. Even if our trial reports good results, it has nowhere near the number of participants as the trials for the mRNA/viral vector vaccines that are already available, and nowhere near the duration of testing either. The first people who ever got the vaccine being tested in my trial, got it earlier this year. The mRNA/viral vector vaccine trials started around 16 months ago, and we've now got more than 8 months of real world data with billions of doses given around the world, confirming they're safe and effective.


Sorry, but both masks (1, 2) and lockdowns (1, 2) have been proven to significantly reduce transmission and overall outcomes.


Even if that is true, correlation is not causation.



Firstly I'm assuming that you're talking about cases rather than hospitalisations and deaths, and this is likely due to the fact that the Delta variant is much more infectious than previous variants. Studies have shown people with Delta have viral loads more than 1,000 times higher than with previous variants, and are contagious earlier as well:


Secondly, though we had cases rise here in the UK as Delta took hold and we (stupidly) got rid of other public health measures that constrained the spread, this graph comparing our second and third waves in terms of cases versus deaths, pretty unambiguously shows the huge difference the vaccines have made.

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There's currently an active debate about whether booster vaccinations are needed, I haven't seen anyone actually propose "every 6 months", in part because protection tends to builds over time, and my expectation is that they're only going to be actively needed by the most vulnerable, particularly those who are actively immunosuppressed. That said, many commonly used vaccines against other diseases have a third dose, and annual flu vaccines have been a thing for ages, especially because vaccinating against respiratory diseases has always been a challenge.

Finally, there is no evidence whatsoever that doing this will kill people, and in terms of the idea that it weakens the immune system? It literally does the exact opposite, that's the whole point. All vaccines are just a training session for your immune system. It strengthens it by giving it practice destroying something that looks like the real pathogen, causing it to create a load of protective antibodies and t/b-cells which will then roundly kick the arse of the real pathogen if you're exposed to it in future.
Where are you getting your info? The vaccine most certainly does not destroy it. That‘s why the “vaccinated“ are spreading it like wildfire now. Only sophisticated vaccinated are immune. Commoners like us are hosed. You realize the damage this hoax did to the world economy, and will continue to do as long as we let it continue?

I'm not sure what you apparently do at a hospital, but this post is misinformation 101:

  1. The PCR test is incredibly accurate and reliable, and while there are now even more tests available, PCR isn't going anywhere:


  2. Hospitals are not paid more if someone dies of COVID:


  3. You're literally alleging a massive conspiracy where doctors and nurses work to falsify medical records and death certificates for some reason, without any evidence to back it up.

  4. Anyone who makes these arguments that are easily disproved with 2 minutes of Googling, and/or are conspiracy theories with zero evidence to back them up, sure are something.
Again more false information. The PCR test was not designed to be used the Way that it has been. So says the creator of the test. https://fcpp.org/2021/02/27/pcr-test-is-flimsy-say-inventor-and-courts/

Unfortunately he unexpectedly passed just before the COVID outbreak. Just a coincidence though…

I don’t understand why people have any issues with these covid vaccines mandates. What is the issue? I cannot send my kids to school if they don’t have their MMR or a variety of other shots up to date. I could not attend college if I was not up to date on my tdap vaccine. How is this any different?
Because most of what the kids are vaccinated against are dangerous diseases that can make or kill. The COVID vaccine is unproven, not fully tested, and being forced on children who largely do not get the disease or pass it on. And if they ”or someone they love“ do get it there is close to 100% recovery with a few doses of ivermectin (that’s why everyone suddenly stopped talking about India) or remdesivir if in worse conditions. Even Fauci is finally starting to admit it.

Unfortunately that isn't true, and science, regardless of whether you write it in all caps, does not agree with that.

Not getting vaccinated means you are far more likely to get infected in the first place, and therefore how likely you are to be able to spread the virus to other people as a result.

Plus as your immune system probably won't already have antibodies and t/b-cells trained to recognise and destroy the virus, you'll likely be sicker, and therefore infectious, for longer. And for the same reason, your body is also a perfect breeding ground for the virus to mutate unchecked, potentially creating new variants that are more infectious/deadly/able to escape the protection from the vaccines.

And of course, while the vaccines are really effective at preventing serious cases, unfortunately some people truly cannot get vaccinated, whether because of their age, or if they have an allergy to an ingredient in the vaccines, and even of those who can, those who have weaker immune systems to begin with, whether because of age, health issues, or both, are still at higher risk of getting seriously ill if exposed to the virus.

Finally, as people who don't get vaccinated are far more likely to get seriously ill and end up in hospital, surges in cases can overwhelm local hospitals and make it so that even those who don't have COVID, but urgently need medical care, can't get it. As in this terrible case, though there are others too:







What you do here does put others at risk. Sure, you can choose to do that, but do you really want to be responsible for this kind of thing?
Not getting vaccinated at this stage means you may get a significantly reduced version of the virus. That’s how viruses work. The strong kill their host, the weaker variants carry on. Like climate change this has been the course of history and you are not powerful enough to change it.

Everything you do to live your life puts others at risk but no more so than getting in your car. Walking down the street. Living your life in any way. Yet humans have survived for thousands of years.
 
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It’s also the same FDA that claimed late last year to have an open and transparent discussion for any EUA and approval and also made a decision with less than six months of data even though Pfizer was informed of waning efficacy 3-4 months after giving the injection plus also tainted its test group that was designed for a 2 year study but hey safe even though it’s failing with the Delta variant 🙄


Even though Fauci stated the viral load in both groups is the same for Delta.


Aren’t the vaccinated also equally spreading Delta. Help me understand your logic.


Are you claiming all smart people own Apple products, if that is the case we would not have Apple Support.


It’s politically driven and done without transparency plus being less than 50% effective against Delta while FDA requires at least 50% or higher efficacy means the FDA is being disingenuous.


Pfizer basically tainted the trial group and used the global population in mass with the aid of FDA to conduct its trial.


The group on the right can also include the vaccinated, look at Israel, Seychelles, UK, Iceland and Gibraltar.

For some reason, MacRumors forums are rife with people like you
 
Unfortunately he unexpectedly passed just before the COVID outbreak. Just a coincidence though…

just casually implying that the inventor of pcr test was assassinated prior to covid in order to keep the hoax alive

nicely done!
 
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The PCR test was not designed to be used the Way that it has been. So says the creator of the test. https://fcpp.org/2021/02/27/pcr-test-is-flimsy-say-inventor-and-courts/

I feel it's worth pointing out that while fcpp.org is mostly a climate change denial organization funded partly by the Heartland Institute (who worked in the 90s for the tobacco companies to try to discredit the health risks of second hand smoke), they also ran radio ads a few years ago trying to claim that the Canadian Indian residential school system did no harm

so just a particularly great group of people there
 
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Another low effort “you’re wrong” without any explanation why.

The claims are supported by the studies and articles I provided. Please, go through it, tell me which is which not supported.

I used to make the effort to do that sort of thing on these forums, but honestly it always felt like a waste of time in the end, especially when it comes to conspiracy theory stuff.

I certainly encourage everyone to actually read the articles and then read your claims and come up with their own assessment of whether or not the evidence mustered supports the claims, which anyone who puts the time in will see that they don't.
 
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"Due to its extensive record of safe use, medical professionals can feel confident about prescribing Ivermectin, said Dr. Pierre Kory, president and chief medical officer of the FLCCC. In the 40 years since it was first approved for use, more than 3.8 billion people have been treated with an average of only 160 adverse events reported per year."

Source: FLCCC Alliance Statement on Misleading FDA Guidance on Ivermectin

is this before or after taking hydroxychloroquine as directed by Tucker Carlson?
 
Unfortunately that isn't true, and science, regardless of whether you write it in all caps, does not agree with that.

Not getting vaccinated means you are far more likely to get infected in the first place, and therefore how likely you are to be able to spread the virus to other people as a result.

Plus as your immune system probably won't already have antibodies and t/b-cells trained to recognise and destroy the virus, you'll likely be sicker, and therefore infectious, for longer. And for the same reason, your body is also a perfect breeding ground for the virus to mutate unchecked, potentially creating new variants that are more infectious/deadly/able to escape the protection from the vaccines.

And of course, while the vaccines are really effective at preventing serious cases, unfortunately some people truly cannot get vaccinated, whether because of their age, or if they have an allergy to an ingredient in the vaccines, and even of those who can, those who have weaker immune systems to begin with, whether because of age, health issues, or both, are still at higher risk of getting seriously ill if exposed to the virus.

Finally, as people who don't get vaccinated are far more likely to get seriously ill and end up in hospital, surges in cases can overwhelm local hospitals and make it so that even those who don't have COVID, but urgently need medical care, can't get it. As in this terrible case, though there are others too:
Not getting vaccinated does not make you more likely to get infected with the virus in the first place. That is factual, and that is the reason I emphasized it in all caps. The virus continues to be transmitted in the same manner between all people, vaccinated or unvaccinated. This is irrefutable.

All other points you made are concerning one individual vaccinated vs. unvaccinated are true and not points I objected to. As I said, those who are aware of the risk to themselves and are still unwilling to be vaccinated should not be forced. I have an issue with people claiming that someone's choice for themselves will put others at risk as a way to force mandates when, again, science has proven that the transmission of viruses does not get affected by vaccinating people.
 
I used to make the effort to do that sort of thing but honestly it always felt like a waste of time in the end.

I certainly encourage everyone to actually read the articles and then read your claims and come up with their own assessment of whether or not the evidence mustered supports the claims
Well, I can’t argue against that last paragraph. I concur.

(And since we are talking to the ‘audience’ now, and not each other) I encourage others as well to read what I wrote and click the studies I linked.

Come to your own conclusions.
 
So…With the vaccines, they modified the S2 subnit so that it could not open up and jab into the cell membranes if it connects with any ACE2 receptors. They thought this would make the spike protein safe, but this assumption is false and if they had taken the time to do more research before rushing to production they would have found that out. It may seem like the jabby bit is what damages the cells, but actually the major damage is caused by the S1 connecting to the ACE2 receptor. Just the S1, by itself without the S2, causes the ACE2 receptor to start the cell signaling processes that cause the mitochondrial damage, the pro-inflammatory response, and the blood clots.

Lets also consider a multitude of other reason.

1) Vaccine enhanced immune escape occurs when a poorly designed or weak vaccine helps create new variants. This happens in the exact same way as antibiotic resistance and regular old evolution. In the case of evolution, if you want to make an organism stronger, you put it under evolutionarily unfavorable conditions. This way you kill all the weak examples of the organism and just leave the strong ones. If you want to create heat resistant bacteria, put a petri dish full of the bacteria under moderately high heat that kills 99% of the bacteria. Save the 1% that were able to survive the heat, allow them to grow, and repeat the process over and over again while turning up the heat just a little each time. Do this until you have a population of bacteria that are all extremely heat resistant. The same process occurs with antibiotic resistance. When you only take half your meds, you kill 99% of the bacteria and you leave only the 1% that were slightly more resistant to the drugs and now they flourish. Before they were a small part of the population but you changed the conditions of their environment so that they have the advantage. You've killed all the normal bacteria that the mutant variants had to compete with so that now the antibiotic resistant bacteria are the alpha strain that have unlimited resources and so surge in population to take over your body. Well, the same thing happens with viruses and vaccines.

If you produce a vaccine that elicits a weak immune response, you are creating an unfavorable environment for the virus. This will kill the weak 99%, and leave those 1% of mutant virus particles that are not as hindered by the antibodies produced by the vaccine. Whereas before these mutants were only a tiny part of the population and would have been unlikely to transmit on to the next person. Now these mutant virus particles surge in number because they no longer have to compete with the other virus particles and your bodies defenses do not work. They are now highly likely to transmit on to the next person, whereas before they would not have been able to leave the host in which the mutation occured. In terms of creating variants, the current covid vaccines are very bad for three reasons. First, some vaccine manufacturers require two shots and now also boosters because the first shot produces a very weak immune response. Second, the vaccines are very leaky. Even after you have gotten a full immune response from both shots, you can still get and transmit the virus onto others. Well, which virus particles are likely to get passed on by a fully vaccinated person? Clearly they will be those virus particles that have the ability to multiply quickly while avoiding the antibodies produced by the vaccines. This will create very virulent and antibody resistant variants. Watch for these variants in the news as time goes on, we're already seeing things like Delta, Lambda, Eplsion, etc.

As we implement boosters, they will start to come at faster and faster rates, and over time data scientists will start to see timed correlations between the implementation of mass boosters and the emergence of new strains. Third, the vaccines do seem to help reduce the severity of the disease when people are infected (although this may change as new variants emerge). Why would this be a concern? Well, because of the leakiness of the vaccines we just spoke about. If you have very low symptoms but you can still get and transmit the virus, then you won't even realize that you're sick and you'll be spreading the virus to even more people as an asymptomatic carrier. So, these vaccines will only increase transmission by creating more and more asymptomatic carriers (although this may not be a bad thing, if everyone in the world gets the virus and everyone is asymptomatic, then there's really no need to care about covid anymore. But this is an unrealistic idealization that is unlikely to occur, some people will still get sick and die or suffer long haul covid). One additional point to address here is the claim that the unvaccinated are causing the emergence of new vaccine resistant variants. Let me be clear, the unvaccinated absolutely have the ability to facilitate the creation of new variants. However, it would require a statistically enormous number of people to get the virus before they could produce a new variant by chance. This is because a mutant virus particle will only make up a small portion of the virus population inside a person's body.

Therefore, it is highly unlikely that this particular particle will be able to spread to a new person. Whereas, in the vaccinated, their weak immune response specifically selects for the mutant variants. It is highly likely that if a vaccinated person passes on the virus to another person, the particles they pass on will be those that have the ability to escape from the immune response elicited by the vaccines. An analogy would be if you did an experiment with 500 room temperature petri dishes filled with bacteria and 500 heated petri dishes with bacteria, then found a heat resistant variant but didn't know which dish it came from. It would be absurd to think that the heat resistant strain of bacteria came from the room temperature petri dishes. It would possible, sure, but completely improbable that the heat resistant strain had suddenly appeared in a room temp petri dish. There would be no reason for it to become a dominant strain in that environment. Logically, statistically, and evolutionarily, it must have come from the heated petri dishes. This is a very basic and obvious conclusion, but the media and government bureaucrats in lab coats are trying to tell you that the absurd thing is true. They're trying to say that the unvaccinated (the room temperature petri dishes) are where the vaccine resistant strains are coming from.

Vaccine Enhanced Immune Escape:-

Evidence of cov2 immune escape: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/06/30/science.abi7994

Article from 2015 that explains how imperfect vaccination (like the Pfizer and moderna that require at least two shots to be effective) can create immune escape variants: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

Article from 2021 explains that unless vaccination is done quickly, there will be a high probability of escape mutants: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95025-3

2) There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: https://www.nature.com/articles/news050110-3#ref-CR1

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32920233/

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.22.432407v1

3). There is a potential for an autoimmune response from the vaccines. The vaccines that were developed for Sars-Cov-1 used the spike protein, just like the vaccines for Sars-Cov-2. Unfortunately, those vaccines caused the animals to develop serious autoimmune disorders and they ended up causing severe organ damage. There is a question about whether these new vaccines, which also focus on the spike protein, will also cause autoimmune disorders. The problem is that autoimmune disorders take time to develop and to show up. It may also take a long time before doctors and scientists can link the sudden rise in autoimmune disorders with these vaccines. Usually, in a vaccine trial you closely monitor your trial group for years and years. This allows you to identify the signals. With the current program of injecting millions of people, there will be no clear way to link causation to the vaccines and an increase in autoimmune disorders may just fly under the radar. We may not know for a very long time or never. Another concern is that because of the way the mRNA vaccines work, they cause your own cells to present as foreign entities. Your immune system comes over and starts killing your own cells. This has never been done before in human history. We have no idea if there will be long term consequences for this and whether this will lead to autoimmune disorders.

Research results of past vaccines for sars-cov1 that used the spike protein:-

Journal article from 2004 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2004/12/sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study

Journal article from 2005 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15755610/

Journal article from 2012 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

Journal article from 2020 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov vaccine (can't figure out if they're talking about cov1 or 2): https://jvi.asm.org/content/78/22/12672.abstract

Journal article from 2020 explains why immune disorders happen with covid vax, because human and Covid19 proteins are similar: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589909020300186

4). The mRNA vaccines are narrowly focused on just the spike protein when they could have been designed to target more proteins. The Covid19 coronavirus has 4 main proteins. There are 3 on its outside and 1 on the inside. The S-protein, the M-protein, and the E-protein, are on the outside, while the N-protein is on the inside. When you get a natural infection your body will likely produce antibodies for all or most of these proteins (depending on the function of your own unique immune system). We knew from studying Sars-Cov-1 that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are both neutralizing. In fact, they used exactly that knowledge when they designed the current vaccines. So, they could have tried to make vaccines that utilize the M-protein to avoid the potential for autoimmune disorders discussed above. But they didn't, they instead focused only on the S-protein. They could have designed the vaccines so that they present both the S-protein and the M-protein. This would have made the vaccines much more effective and less leaky since any mutated virus particles would have to have mutated both the S-protein and the M-protein to avoid the antibodies. Whereas, the current vaccines are narrowly focused on just the S-protein, meaning that the virus only has to mutate the one protein. It is exponentially harder for an organism to mutate two beneficial traits vs just mutating one beneficial trait. So, these vaccines are worse than they could have been.

Vaccine efficacy:-

Article explains how vaccine manufacturers have used relative risk reduction to determine that vaccine efficacy is ~90+%, however they should have used absolute risk reduction which would tell us that the vaccines will only reduce total covid cases by ~1%: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

Addendum to the above information. This video from 2013 explains the difference between relative and absolute risk reduction in a very simple way:

Article from 2005 explains that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are effective in neutralizing the sars-cov1 virus. However, the sars-cov2 vaccines only target the S-protein. This is evidence that the vaccine manufacturers could have chosen to make a superior mrna vax that produced two types of antibodies, but chose to focus narrowly on just the S-protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16544518/

Antibodies from vaccines start to drop within 6 months, get ready for endless boosters: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

5) There are alternative treatments that are effective against Covid19 but they are being suppressed. Why? Because the vaccines are not approved by the FDA but instead they are emergency use authorized only. The emergency use authorization can only be granted if "there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". Well, a growing body of scientific research is showing that both Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine (among other drugs) are adequate alternatives for early treatment of Covid19, and both of these drugs have been FDA approved for years. Unfortunately, that means they are now off patent and no one can make any money off of them. So, for the vaccines to continue to receive their EUA, the existence of these treatments must be suppressed. We have seen a huge amount of censorship of doctors who have been speaking out about these drugs.

Ivermectin:-

Emergency use authorization for the vaccines cannot be granted if there are effective alternative approved treatments for Covid19. So, if the pharmaceutical industry is going to make any money off covid, they must suppress the existence of any existing off patent drugs that may be effective in treating or preventing covid: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

Meta-analysis on the efficacy of Ivermectin in treating Covid19: https://journals.lww.com/americanth...in_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.aspx

A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial shows that Ivermectin is able to cure covid within 6 days for most people: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

More evidence that Ivermectin treatment leads to much faster recovery from Covid19: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26880

An NIH study reveals that a five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Ivermectin stops replication of covid: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3888155/

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties against covid: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-

Ivermectin binds to Covid19 proteins to block the virus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/

Evidence that Ivermectin can be effective as a prophylaxis, Argentinian frontline healthcare workers were given Ivermectin as a preventative and zero got sick with covid, whereas 58.2% of the control group who did not take Ivermectin got covid: https://www.buongiornosuedtirol.it/...-Efficacy-Iota-Carrageenan-and-Ivermectin.pdf

Ivermectin safe to give 12mg per day for 5 days: https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32506-6/fulltext

Ivermectin safely administered 60mg per day for 6 months: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559

Fluvoxamine:-

Fluvoxamine helps in covid treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33180097/

Covid leads to long term inflammation, useful for long haul Covid19 treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33391730/

Fluvoxamine has anti-inflammatory properties that can help treat covid: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.652688/full

Fluvoxamine targets sigma-1 to stop covid replication: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33403480/

6) We've known for decades that once you are infected with a virus or disease, your body creates a robust immune response, including memory T cells and B cells. These cells stick around so that you can quickly respond to a new infection. However, this fact is being completely ignored by vaccine pushers, they want a needle in every arm, even in the arms of those who do not need it, like the covid recovered. We might say, well covid is new and different, and perhaps immunity wanes after a time. This assumption was prudent in the beginning of the pandemic but now we have lots of evidence that the covid recovered have a near zero chance of getting sick again. Your body takes a few weeks and months to build up its antibodies after an infection. Most of the time the second infection takes place during this time frame. There is no reason to force every covid recovered patient to take an experimental drug, especially after that initial 3 month period after they have build up a sufficient immune response. If you still think that the miniscule chance that their immune system has failed makes them a danger, then why are these people not asked for proof of antibodies. It's because they don't actually care if you have antibodies. The vaccinated, without knowing whether they have antibodies or not, can walk around free, but a covid recovered patient, with proof of antibodies is still considered a danger. It's ass backwards and it is evidence that vax pushers don't actually care about immunity. It is just about getting a needle into every arm. The reason why they are doing this, I do not know I leave it up to you, but it doesn't make sense and I make a point of not going along with things that don't make sense.

Studies on covid recovered:-

No benefit from vaccination of previously infected individuals: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

Covid19 infection produces long lasting immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

Second article that covid19 infection produces life long immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

More evidence that covid19 infection produces long term immunity: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.19.21255739v1

Study of 600,000 covid recovered patients finds less than 1% reinfection rate over 10 months and an almost 0% risk in the first 7 months: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209951/pdf/RMV-9999-e2260.pdf

7). There is a growing amount of data that people are having severe reactions to the vaccines. It gets little to no coverage in the press, in some cases people who talk about their reactions on social media are being censored and called anti-vaxxers (I mean, how asinine to call someone who took the jab an anti-vaxxer) or fakers (I am sure some are faking for money/attention, but I highly doubt it's many of them given the social consequences for lying). Some senators have done press conferences with these people so they can tell their stories. There are publicly accessible government databases which contain reports of people who have had adverse reactions to the vaccines. These systems were put in place in the 90's to act as a sort of early warning system and to give transparency to the public after previous botched vaccine rollouts like the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. You can go and read these reports for yourself. There are websites that download the reports and present them to the public in a very readable manner (the government website from the 90's is not very good). There are concerns that these reports are being made in error or by bad actors. However, research has been done into these systems and it was found that more than 80% of the adverse reactions had seemingly no other cause or explaination aside from the vaccine. In the past, if a vaccine hit 50 deaths or a few hundred adverse reactions on these reporting systems, they would shutdown the vaccination program. As of writing this, for the covid vaccines the deaths are into the thousands and the serious adverse reactions are into the hundreds of thousands. Yet they just keep rolling with the shots and now are even forcibly manadating the shot.

VAERS:-

Analysis on the VAERS death data shows that in 86% of reports the vaccine cannot be ruled out as a causal factor in the death of the patient: https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_VAERS_Database_Interim_Results_and_Analysis

Addendum to the above link. OpenVAERS is a site that allows you to easily read VAERS reports and breaks down the numbers. The reports seem to be a lot of people who have comorbidities or are old, but there are also some really eye opening cases where young people experience horrible side effects. Read for yourself and make up your own mind about what the vax is doing to your fellow Americans: https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers
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Interestingly, almost all the vaccinated people have seemingly incorporated it into their identities, dating profiles, and insist (maybe even coerce) on others to commit to the same choice as them.

Love the intro to your reply, “get vaccinated, ignore amacfa”. Quite the opposite of what your saying in the above, is it a threat to your identity? Is it OK for people to chose?
That was a very large number of words that didn’t involve engaging with almost anything I actually said, including how I took down pretty much every single claim you made in your original post.

You’ve now added a lot of speculation, a load more citations that have nothing to do with the COVID vaccines themselves, and sprinkled in some ivermectin promotion and fear mongering/absurdity about VAERS data.

While I definitely give you points for a unique approach to pushing misinformation about the vaccines, the fact that when faced with someone who goes through your claims point by point and dismantles them, you just move on and pretend like you never made those claims, is pretty telling.

I could waste my time going through your latest wall of speculation, misinformation, and irrelevant citations, but it’s clearly pretty pointless.
 
Am I getting it right that putting others in danger is American? I wonder what a court would say if a non vaccinated and infected person willfully went to work and as a result effected others resulting in death or side effects like loss of smell and fatigue.
What would a court say if a vaccinated AND infected person (I know many who've had breakthrough covid infections) willfully went to work and as a result infected others?
 
Another low effort “you’re wrong” without any explanation why.

The claims are supported by the studies and articles I provided. Please, go through it, tell me which is which not supported.
This is kinda hilarious to read after I spent 90 minutes doing exactly that, and you just ignored it all and came out with more unsupported speculative BS instead.

I’m old enough to remember when these “vaccines“ were released that there was wide spread talk that they are so effective you might never need to get the flu shot ever again. Now we’re told two doses aren’t enough to handle COVID. 😂
That's a very strange claim that doesn't make any sense, that I'm pretty sure nobody said. I mean, how exactly would a COVID vaccine prevent influenza to begin with?

You mean like all the people that were either murdered, committed suicide, or died in vehicle accidents counted as COVID deaths? All those people with terminal illnesses such as cancer, kidney/heart/liver failure in their 80’s and 90’s?
This isn't true.

All those people the NY, PA, and NJ governors murdered by forcing them to accept contagious COVID patients? All the people that were refused the HCQ cocktail, ivermectin, and remdesivir? All those deaths didn’t have to happen But they did and they became part of the official death record. The actual death from COVID is somewhere around 4% of what is reported.
This is a very confusing set of somewhat contradictory assertions, provided without evidence, which isn't a rebuttal of me making it clear you're making up deaths supposedly caused by the vaccines.

Swine flu vaccine had far fewer deaths and was stopped because of it.
You still haven't provided any evidence that the COVID vaccines have caused the huge number of deaths you asserted they have, so this is still irrelevant.

Where are you getting your info? The vaccine most certainly does not destroy it. That‘s why the “vaccinated“ are spreading it like wildfire now. Only sophisticated vaccinated are immune. Commoners like us are hosed. You realize the damage this hoax did to the world economy, and will continue to do as long as we let it continue?
Doctors, immunologists, other scientists, and organisations made up of these people, all with peer reviewed scientific studies and evidence to back up what they're saying.

It's true that the vaccine itself doesn't destroy the virus, because that isn't how vaccines work. But it is true that if you've been vaccinated against COVID, your immune system will be well trained to recognise and destroy the virus with antibodies and t/b-cells, which it does very well.

Some vaccinated people are still getting infected, though very rarely seriously enough to need medical care, because antibody levels decline over time, Delta has a viral load more than 1,000x higher than previous variants which makes a big difference, and because making vaccines against respiratory illnesses that can provide full sterilising immunity have long been a challenge. I have NFI what "only sophisticated vaccinated are immune" means, people wearing top hats and monocles? I've not seen a study that shows them as being effective PPE but that'd certainly be interested.

Again more false information. The PCR test was not designed to be used the Way that it has been. So says the creator of the test. https://fcpp.org/2021/02/27/pcr-test-is-flimsy-say-inventor-and-courts/

Unfortunately he unexpectedly passed just before the COVID outbreak. Just a coincidence though…
No, asserting inaccurate things about using PCR to test for COVID, and about what dead people said, is the false information, especially when you follow it up with conspiracies about their death, that don't even make sense unless you think COVID broke out in September 2019:


Because most of what the kids are vaccinated against are dangerous diseases that can make or kill. The COVID vaccine is unproven, not fully tested, and being forced on children who largely do not get the disease or pass it on. And if they ”or someone they love“ do get it there is close to 100% recovery with a few doses of ivermectin (that’s why everyone suddenly stopped talking about India) or remdesivir if in worse conditions. Even Fauci is finally starting to admit it.
COVID can and does harm people and kill them, including leaving them with long term effects. The COVID vaccines are proven and fully tested, I've gone over that before in previous replies. While children are less likely to die than adults, they can and do still get very sick, and very much do transmit it.

The evidence behind ivermectin is shaky as ****, and the idea that "there is close to 100% recovery" with it is beyond a joke. While we have now got some treatments we know can be helpful for people who get very sick, particularly dexamethasone, remdesivir, and now monoclonal antibody treatments, they are nowhere near as effective as getting vaccinated to begin with.

Not getting vaccinated at this stage means you may get a significantly reduced version of the virus. That’s how viruses work. The strong kill their host, the weaker variants carry on.
I have no idea what this means and it doesn't make any sense. Getting vaccinated means that if you're exposed to the virus your immune system will already have protective antibodies and t/b cells that can identify and destroy it, instead of having to try to work out how to identify and destroy it, while the virus turns your cells into factories to make more copies of itself, which then forces those cells to explode open like virus-filled water balloons, and infect more cells at an exponential rate.

Like climate change this has been the course of history and you are not powerful enough to change it.
Can we please stick to one right-wing conspiracy theory?

Everything you do to live your life puts others at risk but no more so than getting in your car. Walking down the street. Living your life in any way. Yet humans have survived for thousands of years.
That isn't true, and while as a species we may have survived for a long time, huge numbers of individual humans have been killed by infections, with vaccines saving many millions of lives, as well as preventing even more people from having awful damage and disabilities for their whole lives.

Not getting vaccinated does not make you more likely to get infected with the virus in the first place. That is factual, and that is the reason I emphasized it in all caps. The virus continues to be transmitted in the same manner between all people, vaccinated or unvaccinated. This is irrefutable.
If it's irrefutable, where's the evidence for it?

All other points you made are concerning one individual vaccinated vs. unvaccinated are true and not points I objected to. As I said, those who are aware of the risk to themselves and are still unwilling to be vaccinated should not be forced. I have an issue with people claiming that someone's choice for themselves will put others at risk as a way to force mandates when, again, science has proven that the transmission of viruses does not get affected by vaccinating people.
The science has proven otherwise though. We know that the vaccines massively reduce symptomatic infection, and without symptoms, your ability to spread the virus is a lot more limited. Delta is definitely challenging them because the viral loads are so much higher to begin with, but again, it making it less likely that you get infected to begin with, inherently makes it less likely you can transmit it: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/
 
This is kinda hilarious to read after I spent 90 minutes doing exactly that, and you just ignored it all and came out with more unsupported speculative BS instead.
This is actually kinda hilarious, that after directly responding to your reply, you ignored my response.

In my direct reply to you (which you ignored), I explained cleanly what the ‘S1 only’ designed vaccines causes damage to the ACE2 receptor. Thus can cause clotting, thus can cause inflammation. The studies were linked.

Instead, all you did was attack me personally. Completely ignored my directly reply (the topic was inflammation and clots caused by damaged ACE2 receptors.)

Maybe you can’t? It’s okay. Just see one link form VAERS, and it invalidates the other 48 legitimate studies I post, right? I’m not here to convince you, just to provide those reading who haven’t stumbled on this information before. People are allowed to have hesitations. Click the links and read the studies. Make your own conclusions.
 
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Acceptable Reasons for Vaccine Hesitance w/ 50 Published Medical Journal Sources.


I have no issues with those who chose to take the vaccine. I do have a problem with forcing the vaccine on others.

The current Covid19 vaccines have 10 main problems:

  1. The spike protein is cytotoxic.
  2. The emergence of immune escape variants.
  3. The potential for antibody dependent enhancement.
  4. The potential for autoimmune disorders.
  5. The narrow design focus of the vaccines.
  6. There are alternative treatments to both prevent and treat covid.
  7. They are trying to jab everyone, even people who don't need it.
  8. There are serious adverse reactions to the vaccines.
  9. There is no liability for vaccine producers.
  10. There is potential for long term unknown side effects.
I will present a brief overview of each issue and then provide scientific data below for support. Some of these are potential issues and some of the evidence is gathered using small study sizes. This means that some of these issues are only associated with the vaccines and have not been concretely causally linked with the vaccines yet. However, we are in the beginning of the scientific process of discovery and are unfortunately being pressed to take the vaccines immediately. We must therefore make decisions based on what little data is available to us. Given the seriousness of the decision to be vaccinated with an experimental medical intervention, we must not ignore any signals, as they may mean the difference between life and death. Small signals may also indicate important areas of further study. We must take a Gestalt view and consider all the signals together, for only by putting all the evidence together can we hope to achieve a clearer understanding of what may be going on. All of the following information is subject to change as research over time teaches us the truth and nothing contained within should be considered legal or medical advice. This is all my opinion based on my interpretation of the available scientific data.

0. First a Brief Explanation of How the New Covid19 Vaccines are Supposed to Work

There are two types vaccines, the moderna/Pfizer and the Johnson & Johnson/AstraZeneca. Both types use the same core principles to elicit an immune response. The MP type use a lipid nanoparticle and mRNA, whereas the J&JAZ type use an adenovirus and DNA. With the J&JAZ they took an existing virus, removed its normal genetic material and replaced it with a strand of modified DNA. They pump your body full of these adenovirus particles which infect your cells with the modified DNA. This DNA travels from the cytoplasm of your cell into the nucleus of your cell, which houses the rest of your cell's DNA. The modified DNA is then unzipped to produce two strands of mRNA. These messenger RNA strands carry a message, like a work order. They tell your cell what to build and where to put it. The mRNA strands leave the nucleus and are read by the ribosomes which translate the work order. It tells them to construct spike proteins and to anchor them on the membrane of the cell. Once those spike proteins are on the outside of your cells your body's immune cells, the macrophages come along and encounter them. They identify the spike proteins as foreign matter and kill your spike protein expressing cells. They gobble up and analyze the pieces of your newly killed cells and may call in other macrophages and dendritic cells for back up. Once the dendritic cells arrive, they will also destroy the spike expressing cells, believing them to be foreign invaders. They will analyze the pieces of your cells and take them to where the T-cells and B-cells are stored. They show all the parts of the dead cells (including the human parts) to these T- and B-cells, which will create antibodies that will attach to those parts. They're not supposed to create antibodies for your own parts, just for the S-protein. This way, when covid enters your body for real, the immune system already has antibodies to the spike protein and your body can move quickly to combat the virus. The moderna and Pfizer vaccines work in much the same way, except there are fewer steps. The MP vaxxes use lipid nanoparticles that are little bubbles of fat with a strand of mRNA in them. Once these nanoparticles are injected into the body, they get gobbled up by your cells and the nanoparticles release the mrna strands into the cytoplasm of your cell. Your ribosomes then read the mrna, just the same as with the J&JAZ vax and get to work producing spike proteins to display on the membrane of your cell. The rest is identical. (This is a very simplistic explanation of a very complex process, some steps have been skipped over and some processes have been simplified for the sake of brevity but the general gist of the process is accurate).

1. The Dangers of the Spike Protein

The spike protein of the virus, that is also being utilized in the vaccines, is damaging to our cells through 3 mechanisms. The first is that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor it causes the ACE2 to send signals to the mitochondria within the cell which destroys the mitochondria, eventually killing the cell. The second is that when the spike protein binds to our ACE2 receptors it causes the ACE2 to send signals to other cells which increases the amount of pro-inflammatory agents in the blood. This inflammation damages the tissues. The third way is that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 of the platelets in our blood, it causes them to clot. Now, the vaccine manufacturers did take steps to make the spike protein more safe. The spike protein has two parts an S1 subunit and an S2 subunit. The S1 is the part that connects to the ACE2, and the S2 is the part that opens up like a knife stabbing the membrane and facilitates fusion between the membrane of the cell and the envelope of the virus. With the vaccines, they modified the S2 subunit so that it could not open up and jab into the cell membranes if it connects with any ACE2 receptors. They thought this would make the spike protein safe, but this assumption is false and if they had taken the time to do more research before rushing to production they would have found that out. It may seem like the jabby bit is what damages the cells, but actually the major damage is caused by the S1 connecting to the ACE2 receptor. Just the S1, by itself without the S2, causes the ACE2 receptor to start the cell signaling processes that cause the mitochondrial damage, the pro-inflammatory response, and the blood clots. OK, but the spike proteins are supposed to be anchored to the membranes of our cells, so how can they do all this damage if they remain planted on the outside of our cells? The spikes are supposed to stay anchored to our cell membranes, and on paper that should be what happens, but in practice they don't seem to remain anchored. There is evidence that in some people the spikes get dislodged and can end up circulating in our system. Once they are in circulation, they are free to connect with the ace2 receptors on our hearts, lungs, brains, etc, and are free to cause the aforementioned inflammation, blood clots, and cell death. Another issue is that the spikes can cause damage without ever being dislodged. The biodistribution data for Pfizer shows that a significant amount of it does make its way throughout the body. When the vaccine seeps into the bloodstream, the adenovirus/nanoparticles will encounter the walls of your veins. They will then transfect the DNA/mRNA into the endothelial cells that line the veins. These cells are supposed to be silky smooth to allow for efficient blood flow. Once the mRNA is read and the spike proteins are displayed on the surface of our endothelial cell membranes, those tubes will no longer be smooth. They'll have tiny little spike proteins sticking out of them. In big veins this will have little to no effect. But in the capillary networks where the tubes narrow considerably and the blood flow slows way down, these spikes will connect with the platelets in the blood. That will cause the blood clotting, even if the spikes themselves never get dislodged from the cell membranes. This will lead to millions of tiny blood clots in the capillaries, which will likely do little harm if they occur in a non-critical location or if they can be cleared out quickly enough (it takes 3 to 6 months to clear a clot). But if these clots occur in critical junctions or if constant boosters ensure that our bodies have ever larger numbers of clots to remove, then our bodies make be overwhelmed and suffer serious harm.

How the virus uses the spike protein to enter human cells: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02039-y

Journal article with evidence that the spike protein by itself can damage cells by binding to ACE2, causing the cells mitochondria to lose their shape and break apart: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

Article on how the Covid19 spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor of our platelets to cause blood clots: https://jhoonline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13045-020-00954-7

Article explaining that blood clots from the spike protein interacting with our platelets are associated with both COVID-19 infection and vaccination: https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003648

Article explains that just the S1 subunit of the spike protein can cause platelets to clot: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1

Article with evidence that spike proteins do end up circulating in the blood, when they're not supposed to, they're supposed to be anchored on the cell membranes: https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075

More evidence that spike proteins do not stay on the cell membranes but end up circulating in the blood. This study aims to explain the blood clots caused by the J&J and AstraZeneca adenovector vaccines, they claim that the DNA isn't properly spliced and the spike proteins end up in the blood causing thrombosis when the spikes attach to the ACE2 receptors of the endothelial cells: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-558954/v1

Article on how the spike protein can cause neurodegeneration: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X2100499X?via=ihub

Article on how the Covid19 spike protein crosses the blood-brain barrier: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096999612030406X?via=ihub

Japanese article on how the Pfizer vax is associated with brain hemorrhaging: https://joppp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40545-021-00326-7

Article on how AstraZeneca is associated with blood clots in the brain: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104840

Article on how the spike protein in vaccines can cause cell damage via cell signaling: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/

Article that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor it causes the release of soluble IL-6R which acts as a extracellular signal which causes inflammation (see the first paper for evidence that the spike causes the release of IL-6R and see the second paper for an explanation of how soluble IL-6R causes pro-inflammatory transcellular signaling: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33284859/ And https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491447/

Another article that Spike protein from covid or the vaccine causes inflammation through cell signaling, this time there is evidence that the spike protein causes senescence (premature aging) signals in the cell which attracts leukocytes that cause inflammation of the cell: https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JVI.00794-21

Spike protein by itself causes cell damage by eliciting a pro-inflammatory response: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41375-021-01332-z

Vaccine causes heart inflammation if it seeps into the veins. They could help prevent this to some extent by following the standard practice of aspirating the needle (pulling back to see if they're injecting to a vein). But they're not following standard procedure: https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab707/6353927

Pfizer animal testing document that was obtained by Dr. Byram Bridle through a FOI request to the Japanese government which shows the biodistribution of the lipid-nano particles throughout the bodies and organs of the test subjects. This is evidence that the lipid nanoparticles do not stay in the injection site, but instead travel all throughout the body (go to pg 16/23 for the charts showing biodistribution over the course of 48hrs): https://files.catbox.moe/0vwcmj.pdf

Addendum to the above link. This blog post provides easy to understand information (with pictures) on the make-up of the lipid nanoparticles used in the Covid19 vaccines. It shows that the pharmaceutical companies could have designed them to have targeting ligands on the outside, so that the nanoparticles would only transfect the muscle cells. But instead the vax was designed with PEG polymers on the outside, so that the immune system will not be able to pick them up and put them in the trash. The PEG is what Byram Bridle says is the reason the vaccine travels throughout the body and since it does not have targeting ligands, it can transfect any type of cell: https://www.cas.org/resource/blog/understanding-nanotechnology-covid-19-vaccines

Article explaining how they stabilized the S-protein in the vaccines to stop it from opening up. Unfortunately, it still leaves the S1 subunit intact, which is what causes the mitochondrial damage, blood clots, and inflammation by binding with the ACE2: https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/tiny-tweak-behind-COVID-19/98/i38

2. Vaccine Enhanced Immune Escape

Vaccine enhanced immune escape occurs when a poorly designed or weak vaccine helps create new variants. This happens in the exact same way as antibiotic resistance and regular old evolution. In the case of evolution, if you want to make an organism stronger, you put it under evolutionarily unfavorable conditions. This way you kill all the weak examples of the organism and leave just the strong ones. If you want heat resistant bacteria, put a petri dish full of bacteria under moderately high heat to kill 99% of the bacteria. Save the 1% that were able to survive, allow them to grow, and repeat the process over and over again while turning up the heat a little each time. Do this until you have a population of bacteria that are all extremely heat resistant. The same process occurs with antibiotic resistance. When you only take half your meds, you kill 99% of the bacteria and leave only the 1% that were more resistant to the drugs. Before they were a small part of the population but you've changed the conditions of their environment, so that they have an advantage. You've killed all the normal bacteria that the mutant variants had to compete with so the antibiotic resistant bacteria are the only strain. So they surge in population to take over your body and now the antibiotics don't work very well either. The principles apply to viruses and vaccines. If you produce a vaccine that elicits a weak immune response, you are creating an unfavorable environment for the virus. You'll kill the weak 99%, and leave the 1% mutant virus particles that are not hindered by the vaccine's antibodies. Whereas before these mutants were only a tiny part of the population and would have been unlikely to gain significantly in population. Now the environment is in their favor and these mutant virus particles surge in number because they no longer have to compete with the other virus particles and your bodies defenses do not work against them. They are now highly likely to transmit to the next person, whereas before they would likely not have been able to leave the host in which the mutation occurred. The current covid vaccines are good at creating variants for three reasons. First, some vaccine manufacturers require two shots and now also boosters because the first shot produces a very weak immune response. Second, the vaccines are very leaky. Even after you have gotten a full immune response from both shots, you can still get and transmit the virus onto others. Well, which virus particles are likely to get passed on by a fully vaccinated person? Clearly they will be those virus particles that have the ability to multiply quickly while avoiding the antibodies produced by the vaccines. This will create very virulent and antibody resistant variants. Watch for these variants in the news as time goes on, we're already seeing things like Delta, Lambda, Epsilon, etc. As we implement boosters, they will start to come at faster and faster rates, and over time data scientists will start to see timed correlations between the implementation of mass boosters and the emergence of new strains. Third, the vaccines do seem to help reduce the severity of the disease when people are infected (although this may change as new variants emerge). Why would this be a concern? Well, because of the leakiness of the vaccines we just spoke about. If you have very low symptoms but you can still get and transmit the virus, then you won't even realize that you're sick and you'll be spreading the virus to even more people as an asymptomatic carrier. So, these vaccines will only increase transmission by creating more and more asymptomatic carriers (although this may not be a bad thing, if everyone in the world gets the virus and everyone is asymptomatic, then there's really no need to care about covid anymore. But this is an unrealistic idealization that is unlikely to occur, some people will still get sick and die or suffer long haul covid). One additional point to address here is the claim that the unvaccinated are causing the emergence of new vaccine resistant variants. Let me be clear, the unvaccinated absolutely have the ability to facilitate the creation of new variants. However, it would require a statistically enormous number of people to get the virus before they could produce a new variant by chance. This is because a mutant virus particle will only make up a small portion of the virus population inside a person's body. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that this particular particle will be able to spread to a new person. Whereas, in the vaccinated, their weak immune response specifically selects for the mutant variants. It is highly likely that if a vaccinated person passes on the virus to another person, the particles they pass on will be those that have the ability to escape from the immune response elicited by the vaccines. An analogy would be if you did an experiment with 500 room temperature petri dishes filled with bacteria and 500 heated petri dishes with bacteria, then found a heat resistant variant but didn't know which dish it came from. It would be absurd to think that the heat resistant strain of bacteria came from the room temperature petri dishes. It would possible, sure, but completely improbable that the heat resistant strain had suddenly appeared in a room temp petri dish. There would be no reason for it to become a dominant strain in that environment. Logically, statistically, and evolutionarily, it must have come from the heated petri dishes. This is a very basic and obvious conclusion, but the media and government bureaucrats in lab coats are trying to tell you that the absurd thing is true. They're trying to say that the unvaccinated (the room temperature petri dishes) are where the vaccine resistant strains are coming from.

Geert Vanden Bossche is a virologist who has been sounding the alarm on this issue, you can visit his website or see a full collection of his videos down below: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

Evidence of cov2 immune escape: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/06/30/science.abi7994

Article from 2015 that explains how imperfect vaccination (like the Pfizer and moderna that require at least two shots to be effective) can create immune escape variants: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

Article from 2021 explains that unless vaccination is done quickly, there will be a high probability of escape mutants: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95025-3

CDC warns COVID-19 may be a few mutations away from evading vaccines. The virus isn't mutating to avoid the vaccines because of unvaccinated people, it's because the vaccines are putting evolutionary pressure on the virus: https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/cdc-covid-19-may-be-a-few-mutations-away-from-evading-vaccines/

3. Antibody Dependent Enhancement

There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: https://www.nature.com/articles/news050110-3#ref-CR1

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32920233/

Article explaining the potential risks of ADE in Sar-cov2: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.22.432407v1

Paper explains that the delta variant is extremely close to developing the ADE, only a few mutations will allow it to use our own antibodies to enter our cells: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1

4. The Potential for Autoimmune Disorders

There is a potential for an autoimmune response from the vaccines. The vaccines that were developed for Sars-Cov-1 used the spike protein, just like the vaccines for Sars-Cov-2. Unfortunately, the old vaccines caused the animals to develop serious autoimmune disorders and causing severe organ damage. There is a question about whether these new vaccines, which also focus on the spike protein, will also cause autoimmune disorders. Since both the old vaccines and the new vaccines utilize the spike protein to elicit an immune response, there is a danger that the new vaccines will have the same issues. The problem is that autoimmune disorders take a long time to develop and to be detectable. It may take a long time before doctors and scientists can link the sudden rise in certain kinds of autoimmune disorders with these vaccines. Usually, in a vaccine trial you closely monitor your trial group for years and years. This allows you to identify the signals. With the current program of injecting millions of people, there will be no clear way to link causation to the vaccines and an increase in autoimmune disorders may just fly under the radar. We may not know for a very long time or we may never know. Another concern is that because of the way the mRNA vaccines work, they cause your own cells to present as foreign entities. Your immune system comes over and starts killing your own cells. This has never been done before in human history. We have no idea if there will be long term consequences for teaching your immune system to treat its own cells as foreign material. We will have to wait and see whether this will lead to autoimmune disorders. This means that caution, at the very least, is justified and rational.

Journal article from 2004 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2004/12/sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study

Journal article from 2005 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15755610/

Journal article from 2012 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

Journal article from 2020 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov vaccine (can't figure out if they're talking about cov1 or 2): https://jvi.asm.org/content/78/22/12672.abstract

Journal article from 2020 explains why immune disorders happen with covid vax, because human and Covid19 proteins are similar: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589909020300186

5. The Narrow Design Focus of the Vaccines and Lack of Efficacy

The mRNA vaccines are narrowly focused on just the spike protein when they could have been designed to target more proteins. The Covid19 coronavirus has 4 main proteins. There are 3 on its outside and 1 on the inside. The S-protein, the M-protein, and the E-protein, are on the outside, while the N-protein is on the inside. When you get a natural infection your body will likely produce antibodies for all or most of these proteins (depending on the function of your own unique immune system). We knew from studying Sars-Cov-1 that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are both neutralizing. In fact, they used exactly that knowledge when they designed the current vaccines. So, they could have tried to make vaccines that utilize the M-protein to avoid the potential for autoimmune disorders discussed above. But they didn't, they instead focused only on the S-protein. They could have designed the vaccines so that they present both the S-protein and the M-protein. This would have made the vaccines much more effective and less leaky since any mutated virus particles would have to have mutated both the S-protein and the M-protein to avoid the antibodies. Whereas, the current vaccines are narrowly focused on just the S-protein, meaning that the virus only has to mutate the one protein. It is exponentially harder for an organism to mutate two beneficial traits vs just mutating one beneficial trait. So, these vaccines are worse than they could have been. We are seeing the results of these mediocre medications in the data coming from highly vaccinated countries.

Article explains how vaccine manufacturers have used relative risk reduction to determine that vaccine efficacy is ~90+%, however they should have used absolute risk reduction which would tell us that the vaccines will only reduce total covid cases by ~1%: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

Addendum to the above information. This video from 2013 explains the difference between relative and absolute risk reduction in a very simple way:

Article from 2005 explains that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are effective in neutralizing the sars-cov1 virus. However, the sars-cov2 vaccines only target the S-protein. This is evidence that the vaccine manufacturers could have chosen to make a superior mrna vax that produced two types of antibodies, but chose to focus narrowly on just the S-protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16544518/

Antibodies from vaccines start to drop within 6 months, get ready for endless boosters: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

Iceland covid data shows majority of covid cases are fully vaccinated: https://www.covid.is/data

UK data for August 2021 shows 183,000 unvaccinated cases with 390 deaths, and 73,000 vaccinated cases but with 679 deaths. So, it seems that getting vaccinated reduces your chances of getting covid, but increases your chances of dying from it if you do get it: https://assets.publishing.service.g...t_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf

Vaccinated healthcare works who experienced a vaccine failure still had huge viral loads: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

Pfizer intentionally destroyed the control groups in their trials for the covid vaccine, which means we'll never know how effective the vaccine actually is: https://www.npr.org/sections/health...nes-hurt-by-placebo-recipients-getting-immuni

Moderna has never been able to get a drug or vaccine approved by the FDA, they were chosen by Trump because the CEO said they could get their experimental gene therapy vaccine made in the fastest time, no animal trials were done: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/us/coronavirus-moderna-vaccine-invs/index.html

Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel explains that they designed the vaccine in just two days: https://v.redd.it/p83r1m7zzgd71

Even CNN agrees the rushed vaccine is a stupid idea (but only while Trump was president): https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccine-history/index.html

6. There are Alternatives to Vaccination

There are alternative treatments that are effective against Covid19 but they are being suppressed. Why? Because the vaccines are not approved by the FDA but instead they are emergency use authorized only. The emergency use authorization can only be granted if "there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". Well, a growing body of scientific research is showing that both Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine (among other drugs) are adequate alternatives for early treatment of Covid19, and both of these drugs have been FDA approved for years. Unfortunately, that means they are now off patent and no one can make any money off of them. So, for the vaccines to continue to receive their EUA, the existence of these treatments must be suppressed. We have seen a huge amount of censorship of doctors who have been speaking out about these drugs.

Ivermectin

Emergency use authorization for the vaccines cannot be granted if there are effective alternative approved treatments for Covid19. So, if the pharmaceutical industry is going to make any money off covid, they must suppress the existence of any existing off patent drugs that may be effective in treating or preventing covid: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

Meta-analysis on the efficacy of Ivermectin in treating Covid19: https://journals.lww.com/americanth...in_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.aspx

A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial shows that Ivermectin is able to significantly reduce viral load within 6 days for most people: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

More evidence that Ivermectin treatment leads to much faster recovery from Covid19: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26880

A study reveals that a five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Ivermectin stops replication of covid: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3888155/

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties against covid: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-

Ivermectin binds to Covid19 proteins to block the virus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/

Evidence that Ivermectin can be effective as a prophylaxis, Argentinian frontline healthcare workers were given Ivermectin as a preventative and zero got sick with covid, whereas 58.2% of the control group who did not take Ivermectin got covid: https://www.buongiornosuedtirol.it/...-Efficacy-Iota-Carrageenan-and-Ivermectin.pdf

Ivermectin safe to give 12mg per day for 5 days: https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32506-6/fulltext

Ivermectin safely administered 60mg per day for 6 months: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559

Fluvoxamine

Fluvoxamine helps in covid treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33180097/

Covid leads to long term inflammation, useful for long haul Covid19 treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33391730/

Fluvoxamine has anti-inflammatory properties that can help treat covid: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.652688/full

Fluvoxamine targets sigma-1 to stop covid replication: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33403480/

7. They are Pushing the Vaccine on People Who Clearly Don't Need It

We've known for decades that once you are infected with a virus or disease, your body creates a robust immune response, including memory T cells and B cells. These cells stick around so that you can quickly respond to a new infection. However, this fact is being completely ignored by vaccine pushers. They want a needle in every arm, even in the arms of those who do not need it, like the covid recovered. We might say, well covid is new and different, and perhaps immunity wanes after a time. This assumption was prudent in the beginning of the pandemic but now we have lots of evidence that the covid recovered have a near zero chance of getting sick again. Your body takes a few weeks and months to build up its antibodies after an infection. During this time your body is susceptible to a second infection. Most of the time when a second infection takes place, it occurs during this time of antibody build-up. There is no reason to force every covid recovered patient to take an invasive experimental drug, especially after that initial 3 month period after they have built up a sufficient immune response. If you still think that the miniscule chance that their immune system has failed makes them a danger, then why are these people not asked for proof of antibodies? It's because they don't actually care if you have antibodies. The vaccinated, without knowing whether they have antibodies or not, can walk around freely touching vegetables and sharing drinks, but a covid recovered patient, with proof of antibodies is still considered a biohazard. This is backass wards and it is evidence that vax pushers don't actually care about immunity. It is just about getting a needle into every arm. The reason why they are doing this, I do not know. I leave it up to you to speculate. But it doesn't make sense and I make a point of not going along with things that don't make sense.

No benefit from vaccination for previously infected individuals: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

Covid19 infection produces long lasting immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

Second article that covid19 infection produces life long immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

More evidence that covid19 infection produces long term immunity: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.19.21255739v1

Study of 600,000 covid recovered patients finds less than 1% reinfection rate over 10 months and an almost 0% risk in the first 7 months: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209951/pdf/RMV-9999-e2260.pdf

8. The Growing Evidence of Adverse Reactions to the Vaccines and the Censorship of this Evidence

There is a growing amount of data that people are having severe reactions to the vaccines. It gets little to no coverage in the press, in some cases people who talk about their reactions on social media are being censored and called anti-vaxxers (I mean, how asinine to call someone who took the jab an anti-vaxxer) or fakers (I am sure some are faking for money/attention, but I highly doubt it's many of them given the social consequences for lying). Some senators have done press conferences with these vaccine harmed people so they can tell their stories. Some doctors have spoke out, although many are being censored and threatened with losing their licenses. Some internet platforms are still allowing people to tell their stories. But many communities are being deleted or shutdown. I remember when journalists, data scientists, and doctors were sounding the alarm on covid in January 2020 while all the authorites and big shot scientists were saying "no, no, everything is fine, it's just the flu bro, go hug a Chinese person, or are you a racist". What if those people had been censored then? Many of the same people who alerted us to covid are sounding the alarm on these vaccines now. We were lucky then that they were not censored. We are lucky now that there are publicly accessible government databases which contain reports of people who have had adverse reactions to the vaccines. These systems were put in place in the 90's to act as an early warning system and to give transparency to the public after previous botched vaccine rollouts, like the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. You can go and read these reports of adverse reactions to the vaccines for yourself. There are websites that download the reports and present them to the public in a very readable manner (the government website from the 90's is not very good). There are concerns that these reports are being made in error or by bad actors. However, research has been done into these systems and it was found that 86% of the adverse reactions had seemingly no other cause or explanation aside from the covid vaccine. In the past, if a vaccine hit 50 deaths or a few hundred adverse reactions on these reporting systems, they would shutdown the vaccination program. As of writing this, for the covid vaccines, the deaths in the US are above ten thousand and the serious adverse reactions are into the hundreds of thousands. Yet they just keep rolling with the shots and are even forcibly mandating them.

Analysis on the VAERS death data shows that in 86% of reports the vaccine cannot be ruled out as a causal factor in the death of the patient: https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_VAERS_Database_Interim_Results_and_Analysis

Addendum to the above link. OpenVAERS is a site that allows you to easily read VAERS reports and breaks down the numbers. The reports seem to be a lot of people who have comorbidities or are old, but there are also some really eye opening cases where young people experience horrible side effects. Read for yourself and make up your own mind about what the vax is doing to your fellow Americans: https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers


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Acceptable Reasons for Vaccine Hesitance w/ 50 Published Medical Journal Sources.


I have no issues with those who chose to take the vaccine. I do have a problem with forcing the vaccine on others.
The current Covid19 vaccines have several problems. I would say that there are 9 main areas of interest:



1) the spike protein appears to be cytotoxic.

2) the emergence of immune escape variants.

3) the potential for antibody dependent enhancement.

4) the potential for autoimmune disorders.

5) the narrow design focus of the vaccines.

6) the fact that alternative treatments are available to both prevent and treat covid.

7) they are trying to jab everyone, even people who have recovered from covid and do not need the jab.

8 ) there are a growing number of severe reactions to the vaccines but this fact gets very little coverage in the press and sometimes it even gets outright censorship.

9) the potential for long term unknown side effects and the potential impact of this on national security.

I will present a brief overview of each issue and then provide scientific data below for support (except for 9. which is more a discussion based on a logical assessment of future risk).

1. The spike protein of the virus, that is also being utilized in the vaccines, is damaging to our cells through 3 mechanisms. The first is that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor it causes the ACE2 to send signals to the mitochondria within the cell which destroys the mitochondria, eventually killing the cell. The second is that when the spike protein binds to our ACE2 receptors it causes the ACE2 to send signals to other cells which increases the amount of pro-inflammatory agents in the blood. This inflammation damages the tissues. The third way is that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 of the platelets in our blood, it causes them to clot. Now, the vaccine manufacturers did take steps to make the spike protein more safe. The spike protein has two parts an S1 subunit and an S2 subunit. The S1 is the part that connects to the ACE2, and the S2 is the part that opens up like a knife stabbing the membrane and facilitates fusion between the membrane of the cell and the envelope of the virus. With the vaccines, they modified the S2 subnit so that it could not open up and jab into the cell membranes if it connects with any ACE2 receptors. They thought this would make the spike protein safe, but this assumption is false and if they had taken the time to do more research before rushing to production they would have found that out. It may seem like the jabby bit is what damages the cells, but actually the major damage is caused by the S1 connecting to the ACE2 receptor. Just the S1, by itself without the S2, causes the ACE2 receptor to start the cell signaling processes that cause the mitochondrial damage, the pro-inflammatory response, and the blood clots.

Studies on the spike protein:-

How the virus uses the spike protein to enter human cells: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02039-y

Article on how the Covid19 spike protein crosses the blood-brain barrier: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096999612030406X?via=ihub

Japanese article on how the Pfizer vax is associated with brain hemorrhaging (lending credence to the hypothesis that the spike proteins are crossing the blood brain barrier in some people): https://joppp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40545-021-00326-7

Article on how AstraZeneca is associated with blood clots in the brain (lending more credence to the hypothesis that the spike proteins are crossing the blood brain barrier in some people): https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104840

Article on how the Covid19 spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor of our platelets to cause bloodclots: https://jhoonline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13045-020-00954-7

Article explaining that blood clots from the spike protein interacting with our platelets are associated with both COVID-19 infection and vaccination: https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003648

Article explains that just the S1 subunit of the spike protein can cause platelets to clot: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1

Article with evidence that spike proteins do end up circulating in the blood, when they're not supposed to, they're supposed to be anchored on the cell membranes: https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075

More evidence that spike proteins do not stay on the cell membranes but end up circulating in the blood. This study aims to explain the blood clots caused by the J&J and AstraZeneca adenovector vaccines, they claim that the DNA isn't properly spliced and the spike proteins end up in the blood causing thrombosis when the spikes attach to the ACE2 receptors of the endothelial cells: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-558954/v1

Article on how the spike protein can cause neurodegeneration: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X2100499X?via=ihub

Journal article with evidence that the spike protein by itself can damage cells by binding to ACE2, causing the cells mitochondria to lose their shape and break apart: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

Article on how the spike protein in vaccines can cause cell damage via cell signaling: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/

Article that when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor it causes the release of soluble IL-6R which acts as a extracellular signal which causes inflammation (see the first paper for evidence that the spike causes the release of IL-6R and see the second paper for an explanation of how soluble IL-6R causes pro-inflamatory extracellular signaling: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33284859/ And https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491447/

Another article that Spike protein from covid or the vaccine causes inflammation through cell signaling, this time there is evidence that the spike protein causes senescence (premature aging) signals in the cell which attracts leukocytes that cause inflammation of the cell: https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JVI.00794-21

Spike protein by itself causes cell damage by eliciting a pro-inflammatory response: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41375-021-01332-z

Biodistribution data:-

Pfizer animal testing document that was obtained by Dr. Byram Bridle through a FOI request to the Japanese government which shows the biodistribution of the lipid-nano particles throughout the bodies and organs of the test subjects. This is evidence that the lipid nanoparticles do not stay in the injecton site, but instead travel all throughout the body (go to pg 16/23 for the charts showing biodistribution over the course of 48hrs): https://files.catbox.moe/0vwcmj.pdf

Addendum to the above link. This blog post provides easy to understand information (with pictures) on the make-up of the lipid nanoparticles used in the Covid19 vaccines. It shows that the pharmaceutical companies could have designed them to have targeting ligands on the outside, so that the nanoparticles would only transfect the muscle cells. But instead the vax was designed with PEG polymers on the outside, so that the immune system will not be able to pick them up and put them in the trash. The PEG is what Byram Bridle says is the reason the vaccine travels throughout the body and since it does not have targeting ligands, it can transfect any type of cell: https://www.cas.org/resource/blog/understanding-nanotechnology-covid-19-vaccines

2. Vaccine enhanced immune escape occurs when a poorly designed or weak vaccine helps create new variants. This happens in the exact same way as antibiotic resistance and regular old evolution. In the case of evolution, if you want to make an organism stronger, you put it under evolutionarily unfavorable conditions. This way you kill all the weak examples of the organism and just leave the strong ones. If you want to create heat resistant bacteria, put a petri dish full of the bacteria under moderately high heat that kills 99% of the bacteria. Save the 1% that were able to survive the heat, allow them to grow, and repeat the process over and over again while turning up the heat just a little each time. Do this until you have a population of bacteria that are all extremely heat resistant. The same process occurs with antibiotic resistance. When you only take half your meds, you kill 99% of the bacteria and you leave only the 1% that were slightly more resistant to the drugs and now they flourish. Before they were a small part of the population but you changed the conditions of their environment so that they have the advantage. You've killed all the normal bacteria that the mutant variants had to compete with so that now the antibiotic resistant bacteria are the alpha strain that have unlimited resources and so surge in population to take over your body. Well, the same thing happens with viruses and vaccines.

If you produce a vaccine that elicits a weak immune response, you are creating an unfavorable environment for the virus. This will kill the weak 99%, and leave those 1% of mutant virus particles that are not as hindered by the antibodies produced by the vaccine. Whereas before these mutants were only a tiny part of the population and would have been unlikely to transmit on to the next person. Now these mutant virus particles surge in number because they no longer have to compete with the other virus particles and your bodies defenses do not work. They are now highly likely to transmit on to the next person, whereas before they would not have been able to leave the host in which the mutation occured. In terms of creating variants, the current covid vaccines are very bad for three reasons. First, some vaccine manufacturers require two shots and now also boosters because the first shot produces a very weak immune response. Second, the vaccines are very leaky. Even after you have gotten a full immune response from both shots, you can still get and transmit the virus onto others. Well, which virus particles are likely to get passed on by a fully vaccinated person? Clearly they will be those virus particles that have the ability to multiply quickly while avoiding the antibodies produced by the vaccines. This will create very virulent and antibody resistant variants. Watch for these variants in the news as time goes on, we're already seeing things like Delta, Lambda, Eplsion, etc.

As we implement boosters, they will start to come at faster and faster rates, and over time data scientists will start to see timed correlations between the implementation of mass boosters and the emergence of new strains. Third, the vaccines do seem to help reduce the severity of the disease when people are infected (although this may change as new variants emerge). Why would this be a concern? Well, because of the leakiness of the vaccines we just spoke about. If you have very low symptoms but you can still get and transmit the virus, then you won't even realize that you're sick and you'll be spreading the virus to even more people as an asymptomatic carrier. So, these vaccines will only increase transmission by creating more and more asymptomatic carriers (although this may not be a bad thing, if everyone in the world gets the virus and everyone is asymptomatic, then there's really no need to care about covid anymore. But this is an unrealistic idealization that is unlikely to occur, some people will still get sick and die or suffer long haul covid). One additional point to address here is the claim that the unvaccinated are causing the emergence of new vaccine resistant variants. Let me be clear, the unvaccinated absolutely have the ability to facilitate the creation of new variants. However, it would require a statistically enormous number of people to get the virus before they could produce a new variant by chance. This is because a mutant virus particle will only make up a small portion of the virus population inside a person's body.

Therefore, it is highly unlikely that this particular particle will be able to spread to a new person. Whereas, in the vaccinated, their weak immune response specifically selects for the mutant variants. It is highly likely that if a vaccinated person passes on the virus to another person, the particles they pass on will be those that have the ability to escape from the immune response elicited by the vaccines. An analogy would be if you did an experiment with 500 room temperature petri dishes filled with bacteria and 500 heated petri dishes with bacteria, then found a heat resistant variant but didn't know which dish it came from. It would be absurd to think that the heat resistant strain of bacteria came from the room temperature petri dishes. It would possible, sure, but completely improbable that the heat resistant strain had suddenly appeared in a room temp petri dish. There would be no reason for it to become a dominant strain in that environment. Logically, statistically, and evolutionarily, it must have come from the heated petri dishes. This is a very basic and obvious conclusion, but the media and government bureaucrats in lab coats are trying to tell you that the absurd thing is true. They're trying to say that the unvaccinated (the room temperature petri dishes) are where the vaccine resistant strains are coming from.

Vaccine Enhanced Immune Escape:-

Evidence of cov2 immune escape: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/06/30/science.abi7994

Article from 2015 that explains how imperfect vaccination (like the Pfizer and moderna that require at least two shots to be effective) can create immune escape variants: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

Article from 2021 explains that unless vaccination is done quickly, there will be a high probability of escape mutants: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95025-3

3. There is a potential for ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. This is when the virus mutates so that the antibodies no longer neutralize the virus but the antibodies still try to attach to it. This can actually help the virus get into your immune cells because when the virus is covered with antibodies it will draw macrophages to the virus that will try to eat it. However, when your macrophages come to eat the virus particle that they think has been neutralized, the virus gets inside them and starts replicating because the antibodies actually didn't neutralize the virus. Your own antibodies act like a kind of Trojan Horse. Another way that ADE can happen is your own antibodies connect to the receptors of your cells and actually help the virus get in directly. This was a huge problem with the Dengue vaccine and we need to do a lot of testing to make sure this isn't a possibility. Clearly with these rushed vaccines we haven't eliminated this possibility and with the virus mutating, ADE may pop up with a later variant. We must stay vigilant and keep an eye out for this signal. It will manifest as people with high antibody levels being more likely to get sick and die.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement:-

Journal article from 2005 shows evidence that sars-cov1 vaccine, that also focused on the spike protein, caused ADE when subjects were challenged with different strain: https://www.nature.com/articles/news050110-3#ref-CR1

Article explaining how ADE works in Sar-cov1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Article explaining the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Another article that speculates on the potential for ADE in Covid19: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32920233/

Article from 2021 explains that there is evidence that covid19 is able to kill macrophages by using antibody dependent mechanisms: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.22.432407v1

4. There is a potential for an autoimmune response from the vaccines. The vaccines that were developed for Sars-Cov-1 used the spike protein, just like the vaccines for Sars-Cov-2. Unfortunately, those vaccines caused the animals to develop serious autoimmune disorders and they ended up causing severe organ damage. There is a question about whether these new vaccines, which also focus on the spike protein, will also cause autoimmune disorders. The problem is that autoimmune disorders take time to develop and to show up. It may also take a long time before doctors and scientists can link the sudden rise in autoimmune disorders with these vaccines. Usually, in a vaccine trial you closely monitor your trial group for years and years. This allows you to identify the signals. With the current program of injecting millions of people, there will be no clear way to link causation to the vaccines and an increase in autoimmune disorders may just fly under the radar. We may not know for a very long time or never. Another concern is that because of the way the mRNA vaccines work, they cause your own cells to present as foreign entities. Your immune system comes over and starts killing your own cells. This has never been done before in human history. We have no idea if there will be long term consequences for this and whether this will lead to autoimmune disorders.

Research results of past vaccines for sars-cov1 that used the spike protein:-

Journal article from 2004 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2004/12/sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study

Journal article from 2005 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15755610/

Journal article from 2012 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov1 vaccine that also focused on the spike protein: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

Journal article from 2020 on autoimmune disorders from Sars-cov vaccine (can't figure out if they're talking about cov1 or 2): https://jvi.asm.org/content/78/22/12672.abstract

Journal article from 2020 explains why immune disorders happen with covid vax, because human and Covid19 proteins are similar: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589909020300186

5. The mRNA vaccines are narrowly focused on just the spike protein when they could have been designed to target more proteins. The Covid19 coronavirus has 4 main proteins. There are 3 on its outside and 1 on the inside. The S-protein, the M-protein, and the E-protein, are on the outside, while the N-protein is on the inside. When you get a natural infection your body will likely produce antibodies for all or most of these proteins (depending on the function of your own unique immune system). We knew from studying Sars-Cov-1 that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are both neutralizing. In fact, they used exactly that knowledge when they designed the current vaccines. So, they could have tried to make vaccines that utilize the M-protein to avoid the potential for autoimmune disorders discussed above. But they didn't, they instead focused only on the S-protein. They could have designed the vaccines so that they present both the S-protein and the M-protein. This would have made the vaccines much more effective and less leaky since any mutated virus particles would have to have mutated both the S-protein and the M-protein to avoid the antibodies. Whereas, the current vaccines are narrowly focused on just the S-protein, meaning that the virus only has to mutate the one protein. It is exponentially harder for an organism to mutate two beneficial traits vs just mutating one beneficial trait. So, these vaccines are worse than they could have been.

Vaccine efficacy:-

Article explains how vaccine manufacturers have used relative risk reduction to determine that vaccine efficacy is ~90+%, however they should have used absolute risk reduction which would tell us that the vaccines will only reduce total covid cases by ~1%: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

Addendum to the above information. This video from 2013 explains the difference between relative and absolute risk reduction in a very simple way:

Article from 2005 explains that antibodies to the S-protein and the M-protein are effective in neutralizing the sars-cov1 virus. However, the sars-cov2 vaccines only target the S-protein. This is evidence that the vaccine manufacturers could have chosen to make a superior mrna vax that produced two types of antibodies, but chose to focus narrowly on just the S-protein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16544518/

Antibodies from vaccines start to drop within 6 months, get ready for endless boosters: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

6. There are alternative treatments that are effective against Covid19 but they are being suppressed. Why? Because the vaccines are not approved by the FDA but instead they are emergency use authorized only. The emergency use authorization can only be granted if "there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". Well, a growing body of scientific research is showing that both Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine (among other drugs) are adequate alternatives for early treatment of Covid19, and both of these drugs have been FDA approved for years. Unfortunately, that means they are now off patent and no one can make any money off of them. So, for the vaccines to continue to receive their EUA, the existence of these treatments must be suppressed. We have seen a huge amount of censorship of doctors who have been speaking out about these drugs.

Ivermectin:-

Emergency use authorization for the vaccines cannot be granted if there are effective alternative approved treatments for Covid19. So, if the pharmaceutical industry is going to make any money off covid, they must suppress the existence of any existing off patent drugs that may be effective in treating or preventing covid: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

Meta-analysis on the efficacy of Ivermectin in treating Covid19: https://journals.lww.com/americanth...in_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.aspx

A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial shows that Ivermectin is able to cure covid within 6 days for most people: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

More evidence that Ivermectin treatment leads to much faster recovery from Covid19: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26880

An NIH study reveals that a five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Ivermectin stops replication of covid: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3888155/

Ivermectin has anti-viral properties against covid: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-

Ivermectin binds to Covid19 proteins to block the virus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/

Evidence that Ivermectin can be effective as a prophylaxis, Argentinian frontline healthcare workers were given Ivermectin as a preventative and zero got sick with covid, whereas 58.2% of the control group who did not take Ivermectin got covid: https://www.buongiornosuedtirol.it/...-Efficacy-Iota-Carrageenan-and-Ivermectin.pdf

Ivermectin safe to give 12mg per day for 5 days: https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32506-6/fulltext

Ivermectin safely administered 60mg per day for 6 months: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559

Fluvoxamine:-

Fluvoxamine helps in covid treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33180097/

Covid leads to long term inflammation, useful for long haul Covid19 treatment: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33391730/

Fluvoxamine has anti-inflammatory properties that can help treat covid: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.652688/full

Fluvoxamine targets sigma-1 to stop covid replication: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33403480/

7. We've known for decades that once you are infected with a virus or disease, your body creates a robust immune response, including memory T cells and B cells. These cells stick around so that you can quickly respond to a new infection. However, this fact is being completely ignored by vaccine pushers, they want a needle in every arm, even in the arms of those who do not need it, like the covid recovered. We might say, well covid is new and different, and perhaps immunity wanes after a time. This assumption was prudent in the beginning of the pandemic but now we have lots of evidence that the covid recovered have a near zero chance of getting sick again. Your body takes a few weeks and months to build up its antibodies after an infection. Most of the time the second infection takes place during this time frame. There is no reason to force every covid recovered patient to take an experimental drug, especially after that initial 3 month period after they have build up a sufficient immune response. If you still think that the miniscule chance that their immune system has failed makes them a danger, then why are these people not asked for proof of antibodies. It's because they don't actually care if you have antibodies. The vaccinated, without knowing whether they have antibodies or not, can walk around free, but a covid recovered patient, with proof of antibodies is still considered a danger. It's ass backwards and it is evidence that vax pushers don't actually care about immunity. It is just about getting a needle into every arm. The reason why they are doing this, I do not know I leave it up to you, but it doesn't make sense and I make a point of not going along with things that don't make sense.

Studies on covid recovered:-

No benefit from vaccination of previously infected individuals: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

Covid19 infection produces long lasting immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

Second article that covid19 infection produces life long immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

More evidence that covid19 infection produces long term immunity: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.19.21255739v1

Study of 600,000 covid recovered patients finds less than 1% reinfection rate over 10 months and an almost 0% risk in the first 7 months: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209951/pdf/RMV-9999-e2260.pdf

8. There is a growing amount of data that people are having severe reactions to the vaccines. It gets little to no coverage in the press, in some cases people who talk about their reactions on social media are being censored and called anti-vaxxers (I mean, how asinine to call someone who took the jab an anti-vaxxer) or fakers (I am sure some are faking for money/attention, but I highly doubt it's many of them given the social consequences for lying). Some senators have done press conferences with these people so they can tell their stories. There are publicly accessible government databases which contain reports of people who have had adverse reactions to the vaccines. These systems were put in place in the 90's to act as a sort of early warning system and to give transparency to the public after previous botched vaccine rollouts like the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. You can go and read these reports for yourself. There are websites that download the reports and present them to the public in a very readable manner (the government website from the 90's is not very good). There are concerns that these reports are being made in error or by bad actors. However, research has been done into these systems and it was found that more than 80% of the adverse reactions had seemingly no other cause or explaination aside from the vaccine. In the past, if a vaccine hit 50 deaths or a few hundred adverse reactions on these reporting systems, they would shutdown the vaccination program. As of writing this, for the covid vaccines the deaths are into the thousands and the serious adverse reactions are into the hundreds of thousands. Yet they just keep rolling with the shots and now are even forcibly manadating the shot.

VAERS:-

Analysis on the VAERS death data shows that in 86% of reports the vaccine cannot be ruled out as a causal factor in the death of the patient: https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_VAERS_Database_Interim_Results_and_Analysis

Addendum to the above link. OpenVAERS is a site that allows you to easily read VAERS reports and breaks down the numbers. The reports seem to be a lot of people who have comorbidities or are old, but there are also some really eye opening cases where young people experience horrible side effects. Read for yourself and make up your own mind about what the vax is doing to your fellow Americans: https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers

9. Criminals are innocent until proven guilty, but medical drugs are not like criminals, medical drugs are guilty until proven innocent. Pharmaceutical companies must prove the innocence of their medications through long term testing. Doctors, bureaucrats, and the public seem to have forgotten this fact when they mandate a new technology to be injected into us without long term testing to prove the innocence of the drug. The vaccine may have completely unknown and serious side effects that manifest in a majority of the people only in the long term. So, the vax may appear to be safe in the short term, but in the long run it causes severe harm or even death. It is extremely risky to innoculate the entire population if we don't know what the long term effects may be. It is especially risky to vax our critical workers with an experimental drug about which we know nothing in the long term. If it turns out that within 2 years of taking it, the vaccine causes the debilitation of a large portion of the people who took it and we had forced all our healthcare professionals to take it, then our countries will lose a large portion of their healthcare professionals. This would devastate our society's ability to treat the sick and cause massive death and suffering. Same goes for the military. If we vax all our fighters, and the vax turns out to greatly physically or mentally weaken most of the people who took it, there goes our ability to defend ourselves. We won't be able to fight off any aggressors and will lose years of military experience as we will have to re-train a whole new set of recruits without the previous military leaders. If most of the laborers are vaxxed and the vax causes bodily weakness, then they won't be able to go to work and our production falls to zero. Without domestic production, we would have to rely on foreign imports but the economy would also grind to a halt so the nation would have no money to pay for these imports. This would probably be a death stroke for whatever nation was victim to it. So, force vaccinating critical workers, or even a large portion of the menial labor force, is a massive national security risk. We also have no way of calculating how large the percentage of risk is since we know nothing at all about the long term effects of innoculation with this type of technology. This could utterly destroy any highly vaxxed nations. This outcome would be so bad (total collapse of a society's infrastructure) that only a massive amount of safety data could justify innoculating the entire population with any treatment. But we just don't have that safety data for these experimental drugs right now, and will probably not have it for decades to come. By then, it will be too late to do anything about it. You can fry an egg, but you can't unfry it. Just the same, you won't be able to unvax the population, there's no way to get the vax out of the body once it's in. The solution is to only vax the old and vulnerable at risk populations and not vax everyone. This issue worries me deeply since there must be risk responsive people at high levels of government who must understand and be sensitive to this type of national security risk. Yet, these people are either being completely ignored or they are allowing the government to proceed with the risky mass vaccination programs anyway.

Separately, these 9 issues would be a concern. But put together, they are incredibly alarming. To me, something feels very wrong here. You too may have already felt it in your gut or in the back of your mind or when reading this. That feeling that something is wrong is instinct, it is the product of millions of years of evolution. A gift from our ancestors who also saw something that was wrong in their environment and had this weird bad feeling. They acted on it and it saved them. So they were able to pass on that instinct to their off-spring from generation to generation. Now, after millions of years, it finds its way to you. If you feel what I feel, that something is very wrong here, I implore you:

Do not ignore it.
Why are you posting the same wall of text you previously posted, yet again? Do you think just reposting the same speculative stuff with unrelated citations multiple times makes it more persuasive somehow? Especially after I utterly dismantled your previous claims and you just ignored all of it and came out with this stuff?
 
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Mandate. Easy. Don’t like the policy, find another job.
Do you really think Apple wants to deal with thousands of wrongful termination lawsuits? That's why they are waiting to see if there's a state or federal vaccine mandate to get them off the hook.
 
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Am I getting it right that putting others in danger is American? I wonder what a court would say if a non vaccinated and infected person willfully went to work and as a result effected others resulting in death or side effects like loss of smell and fatigue.
A court would surely prosecute them but it would never go to court because it's nearly impossible to prove such intent so nothing would happen. On the other hand, if Apple (and other major companies) force vaccination, they face wrongful termination lawsuits out the wazoo.
 
Do you really think Apple ants to deal with thousands of wrongful termination lawsuits? That's why they are waiting to see if there's a state or federal vaccine mandate to get them off the hook.
While I'm not a lawyer, considering the increasingly large number of employers who are mandating their workers get vaccinated, I'm not really sure they'd have to worry about lawsuits as an issue here.

 
This is actually kinda hilarious, that after directly responding to your reply, you ignored my response.

In my direct reply to you (which you ignored), I explained cleanly what the ‘S1 only’ designed vaccines causes damage to the ACE2 receptor. Thus can cause clotting, thus can cause inflammation. The studies were linked.

Instead, all you did was attack me personally. Completely ignored my directly reply (the topic was inflammation and clots caused by damaged ACE2 receptors.)

Maybe you can’t? It’s okay. Just see one link form VAERS, and it invalidates the other 48 legitimate studies I post, right? I’m not here to convince you, just to provide those reading who haven’t stumbled on this information before. People are allowed to have hesitations. Click the links and read the studies. Make your own conclusions.
Ah, missed this one sorry.

I went through the studies and assertions you made point-by-point. You quoted my post, but didn't actually respond to me challenging your previous claims, instead you just moved on to making even more speculative claims.

Could you show me where I "attacked [you] personally"?

As I said before, I haven't gone through your latest batch of claims because it seems like a waste of time to do so when you aren't willing to engage with someone challenging the points you've made.
 
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