Why do you think the 16" is (Huge size)bigger, pretty positive it fits into the 15" if it has much smaller bezels
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Apple Expected to Adopt Keyboard With Scissor Mechanism for Upcoming 16-inch MacBook Pro
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Why do you think the 16" is (Huge size)bigger, pretty positive it fits into the 15" if it has much smaller bezels
As if those departments were in a position to say no to Mr Ive and still keep their jobs even if they knew the design will be fraught with issues?
I'd guess: 15" will shrink footprint to have a greater physical size difference, the 16" will use near desktop class i9/ Xeon processors with rDNA graphics, the display might be XDR (MacBook Pro XDR has a nice ring to it), and of course it'll cost an arm, a leg, another arm, and several more legs. Sort of the 'iMac Pro' of MacBooks if you will.
A no bezel( just a few mm) would mean the 16" would be as big as the 15", the 15 incher will be fazed out slowly.
This rumor does seem to be coming up a lot.
I could be wrong, but I think one “different” thing Kuo is now saying is that there’s only going to be a 16” released this year. The other day, there was the possibility of another 13” Air—and maybe another 13” Pro—refresh in October, though I don’t think that info came from Kuo. Earlier this year he had noted the possibility of a 13” Pro with 32gb of RAM. Now he seems to have revised it all to say only the 16” will get the scissor mechanism keyboard in 2019, with others following in the future.
Yup, no way it'll cost $3K.. more like $4K base.
The butterfly keyboard is actually better, just that Apple made it too thin, should of stuck with the current rubber contact and used the butterfly, instead they got too cleaver and went with metal domes to get even thinner bad mistake, these fail on less key press than rubber type why they never used for keyboards guess Apple knows now why that is.
Yes! Three USB-C ports. Plus USB-A, Blu-ray drive, HDMI, Ethernet, audio in and out, K slot, SD slot, FireWire 800, mini display port, MagSafe.
All in a thin and light aluminum enclosure.
I there really room in the market for 13” and 15” models? What will be the differentiation other than the screen size?
If the 16" comes to fruition we will probably end up with 14" and 16" as the new 13/15. They are basically just packing more screen into the same body.
I don't think anyone is suggesting we ditch USB-C. What we're saying is, we all have tons of devices that use other ports, and we need those ports to have a useful, dare I say, "Pro", computer. I have yet to even see a USB-C device IRL, but I plug in USB3.1 and DisplayPort every day, and quite regularly use my HDMI port and SD card reader.
My thoughts too. If they can come up with something that's in between the old scissors and the butterflies for a laptop it'd be ideal (to me).
It's not just the mechanism of actuation that matters. There are scissor keyboards I like, but the MBP's chiclet versions of the scissors weren't one of them. They either wobbled too much or had too much resistance. A lower travel version could help on both fronts.
There's a wide range of experiences that you can get out of the same mechanism and actually a butterfly mechanism is really just a variation on the scissor keyboard. They're cousins. They're both actually rubber dome keyboards that rely on collapsing scaffolding for stability and/or tactility.
Really? You think Dan Riccio, Jeff Williams and Phil Schiller would be fired if they didn’t implement this keyboard?
My guess is it will be something like that. I’m not sure how Apple will announce/market it but my guess is they’ll do it in a way that doesn’t look like a complete ereversal of the butterfly design.
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I like the curved edges from an aesthetic standpoint, but I get your point.
Any intrusion into the screen is unnecessary and or undesirable. I feel the notch is the worse offender, tho.
It would be strange if they release the updated switches for the 16-inch but keep the old version / butterfly on any other product they update or release between now and 2020 (unless early 2020 releases). The 16-inch laptop itself is not a 100% guarantee either.
This is hilrious! The article implies that it was the consumer who demanded that Apple reduce the thickness of their keyboard...you know, literally everyone was demanding a 1-2mm reduction in thickness! We remember how we were all up in arms over the excessive thickness of the older MPBs, right? We all definitely remember that!
But then there is the other part, where it says that the consumer likely won't notice the increased thickness? (But I'm sure someone on here has a micrometer, and by God they're gonna use it!)
I rather prefer arguments that work both forward and backward...but in this case the argument was: make it thinner at any cost, because the people demand it. And when it utterly failed, we get: make it a little thicker, because nobody is going to notice.
If we won't notice it being 1 mm thicker, why would we have noticed or cared about it being 1mm thinner in the first place?
I feel it is a win that I have successfully avoided buying a butterfly machine, but should I continue to wait for the touchbar to go away? Is that asking too much?
But then there is the other part, where it says that the consumer likely won't notice the increased thickness? (But I'm sure someone on here has a micrometer, and by God they're gonna use it!)
I rather prefer arguments that work both forward and backward...but in this case the argument was: make it thinner at any cost, because the people demand it. And when it utterly failed, we get: make it a little thicker, because nobody is going to notice.
If we won't notice it being 1 mm thicker, why would we have noticed or cared about it being 1mm thinner in the first place?
I feel it is a win that I have successfully avoided buying a butterfly machine, but should I continue to wait for the touchbar to go away? Is that asking too much?
Many of us grew up watching movies on TV’s that had curved corners. It’s fine.
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I could see them sticking with butterfly on Air’s, since thinness has always been part of the marketing.
Aside from a few horror stories, the butterfly keyboards are fine. A 4 year warranty on a keyboard is pretty awesome, especially since if anything happens you also get a new battery. When I had a 2016 MBP, I was hoping the keyboard would die on me so I could get new battery because the battery was crapping out ahead of schedule. I even neglected all precautions it in hopes that it would die and get me a new battery. It didnt, but it turns out that AppleCare covered that so I got a new battery anyway.
I think it has a great, almost throwback feel to it. I hope they do come with curved edges like that. I love the way they look on the iPad Pros. Mix that with a rainbow logo, and a slightly more textured body and I think it would be an awesome aesthetic.