Good. And make the bloody emoji bar optional please. And bring back MagSafe. And the chime! It's just not a Mac without the chime.
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Apple Expected to Adopt Keyboard With Scissor Mechanism for Upcoming 16-inch MacBook Pro
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I doubt Apple will do a full revamp of the MacBook in such a short time.
Although it is great news they will fix the keyboard, Still where is the innovation switching a failure keyboard for an older one is that suppose to be great news?
There are many things still to be fixed for it to be worth the update.
1- Fixed the All soldering components. Apple claims to use all recyclable materials, which is great, though soldering components are more prone to failure and generate more trash.
2- Remove the useless touchbar. The touchbar is a gimmick for prosummers and an excuse for Apple to upcharge $400. Implement full touchscreen instead. When Microsoft is creating a Surface Pro that you can remove from the keyboard and use it as a Pad, that is innovation. Do I like windows, No. Do I think Surface Pro is a better-designed idea. The only reason Apple does not do this is because it will cannibalize their iPad sales.
3- Ram and SSD that are user upgradable.
4- Bring the Mag-safe back
5- Put function over design. We do not care how thin any more the Macbook is if we cannot type.
Although it is great news they will fix the keyboard, Still where is the innovation switching a failure keyboard for an older one is that suppose to be great news?
There are many things still to be fixed for it to be worth the update.
1- Fixed the All soldering components. Apple claims to use all recyclable materials, which is great, though soldering components are more prone to failure and generate more trash.
2- Remove the useless touchbar. The touchbar is a gimmick for prosummers and an excuse for Apple to upcharge $400. Implement full touchscreen instead. When Microsoft is creating a Surface Pro that you can remove from the keyboard and use it as a Pad, that is innovation. Do I like windows, No. Do I think Surface Pro is a better-designed idea. The only reason Apple does not do this is because it will cannibalize their iPad sales.
3- Ram and SSD that are user upgradable.
4- Bring the Mag-safe back
5- Put function over design. We do not care how thin any more the Macbook is if we cannot type.
Which Apple will promptly use to (further) increase the price of the machine by $50-$80.
You know ThinkPad's nailed laptop keyboards a long time ago. I can also replace mine in a few minutes should the need ever arise... Push a card into the slot, release the keyboard, disconnect the cable; reverse to install the replacement.
Just because saying scissor design doesn’t mean back to 2015 version. I would guess trying to test limits of that as well.
TB is trash and MagSafe is one of the best inventions in portable computing. Are you trolling?
Darth Tulhu
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I have a 2011 17" too, that I can connect to everything today, no new adapters required. And with the Expresscard slot, I've been able to connect to everything it didn't have.
If Apple had updated those machines with modern CPU, GPU, and ports I would have been a happy camper. It's Apple that controls the update cycle.
All that said, I concede that USB-C is the future. It's bandwidth makes everything we wanted back then possible. The right dongle or USB-C to X cable resolves any issues and is a relatively inexpensive "fix".
So while I dislike Apple's too-soon-forward jumps, I appreciate them trying to skate to where the puck is going to be. Deal is, they're not always right (2013 MacPro, these awful keyboards on ALL Macs).
I preferred it when they hedged their bets a bit.
Agreed. Screens are measured corner to corner....so rounding off the corners would be counter productive for the specs.
And yeah, most programs (i.e. "apps" for the kids...) use the edges of the screen. The OS for example shows status info on top, and the dock on the bottom. Any "notch" or rounded corners would disrupt this layout.
Question: If the top corners are round, and if a window is full screen, how do you close the window? The handy little red dot we have grown accustomed to clicking on will be off the screen....
I think it is safe to say that we will not get rounded corners.
More powerful GPU hardware would be nice. Something to at least compete with Nvidia and something with more than 4 GB vram.
Yes - much too much to ask; the Pro line is 100% touchbar now; and I don't expect that to regress.
I feel the same luck about avoiding the butterflies; now maybe I'll consider buying once Apple includes at least 16GB RAM for any machine over $1000, rather than the ridiculous 8GB.
Interesting, thanks for that. I do always wonder how bad the horror stories are. We get to hear about the bad things, but not the ones that are fine.
Darth Tulhu
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You had me until the rainbow logo.
I hate rainbows as a design (not real rainbows; they're beautiful).
And before anyone calls me a bigot or homophobe, it has nothing to do with its appropriation by the LGBTQ community.
To answer your question, full screen apps come in two varieties, and neither would have the issue you describe. Maximizing a window still has the menu bar at the top, and if you go full screen with it, the entire top goes away, and when you bring it back by moving your mouse to the top of the screen, the menu bar still is at the top.
Secondly, take a closer look at the menu bar, there is already enough space there to account for a rounded corner on both sides. As for the bottom of the screen, there would be nothing hidden on a dock that went all the way across. (if you can even do that? I'll have to test when I get home from work...)
I think there is plenty there to say they absolutely COULD do it.
If it is something new, there's an old, old Mac paradigm to remember: Wait for Revision B.
I appreciate the internal 3.5” disc drive, but I also need a 5 1/4” one, I’m a serious professional
Why stop there, you could fit an 8" one at the very bottom
I haven’t upgraded since people started reporting faulty keyboards. I won’t upgrade until Apple gets their quality together.
People complain about Samsung and their foldable phone that isn’t even in the market, but they don’t mind garbage keyboards that have been out for 4 years!
I remember first trying them out and being like... wow is it loud!
Does anyone know if people got refunds for those who had to pay the crazy amount to repair the current crappy keyboard?
People complain about Samsung and their foldable phone that isn’t even in the market, but they don’t mind garbage keyboards that have been out for 4 years!
I remember first trying them out and being like... wow is it loud!
Does anyone know if people got refunds for those who had to pay the crazy amount to repair the current crappy keyboard?
Silently acknowledging the mistake and going back on their steps: that’d be real courage
Fair point. They should be improving things. Nothing stands still.
I think it is important and necessary to understand that they were developing this new keyboard in parallel with the revisions to the butterfly keyboard. This new design being rumored didn't happen overnight.
Why release a brand new version of the butteffly keyboard so close to the release of the "next gen" keyboard? Because Apple is defending their keyboard! They are saying it is good; they are saying they have the confidence to stand behind the product. And it may be an impressive technical achievement, but the bad press is hard to overcome...
Good. Now just get rid of the touchbar, add some more useful ports, don't sacrifice a fraction of a millimeter if it means thermal throttling, and offer for a reasonable price. Then we're talking.