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You do know there is a spending cap since 2021 now right?
I miss the 1980's with gigantic turbos and rocket fuel mixes that were so toxic that hazmat suits and respirators were needed. The V10 era being close second. No caps on the greed of the owners of F1 today.
 
I miss the 1980's with gigantic turbos and rocket fuel mixes that were so toxic that hazmat suits and respirators were needed. The V10 era being close second. No caps on the greed of the owners of F1 today.
I have the chance to get to a classics event on a track near me yearly. The first time they fired up a V8 Williams FW07 next to me, I cried. Half due to sound, half due to smell hahaha
 
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I am a subscriber of the F1 TV service, so I get to enjoy the coverage they do. Also Brits, but waaaaaaaay more level headed. I particularly enjoy DC’s commentary, but I love the whole team
Yeah if DC is commentating, they clearly use the British Channel 4 feed for F1 TV. I watch highlights only now, dumped Sky a few years ago and to be honest, highlights suit my lifestyle as they don't waste 3 hours of my Sunday.
 
That's why they have something called cost cap....
PS. you cheeky dude haha
Introduced recently and not compensating for past tech advantage, not covering some crucial expenses, plausibly bypassed by some loopholes, not reached by all, which means money still matters a lot.
But I'll be honest, I'd dislike the craziest literal-turbo-capitalist sport anyway.
And I'll take the "cheeky dude" as a compliment 😁
 
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F1 TV does their own coverage, they don’t use DC in every race.
Fair enough. It is something I have toyed with the idea of subscribing to, you just can't watch live in the UK due to Sky monopolising, so its delayed full live races here. Hence why I have realised its probably best just to watch the highlights as I tend to prefer watching in the evening anyway.
 
"Disgusting" is an interesting description. Humans by nature are competitive. Competition pushes us to achieve bigger things. Not just in sport, but in life. Is that "disgusting" too?
Well, I said "mostly" but... it can definitely be.
I'll object that
- You are assuming that, since I don't like this kind of competition, I don't like any kind of competition. That logic doesn't seem to work. There are many forms of competitions that do not involve sponsoring very bad companies. I think they're better.
- "Natural" means almost nothing and doesn't qualify things, like... ever. It just means that we observe it to happen. And it's even less useful when used to describe human activities, since its alternative is "artificial". But thinking something is good because it's "natural" is a pretty common fallacy. Food poisoning is natural.
- Our competitive "nature" can surely have terrible consequences. War is one of them, there are others. To me, risking your life for money and glory is also not good.
- There are pretty good alternative drives to do good things to competition. Like the will to do something good which isn't "impress others" for the sake of it that many people seem to show. We should take as an example one of those people instead.
- Calling sport victories a "big thing" is debatable at best. Especially if that sport is mainly driven by really bad interests.

I'm against all aura of holiness the world commonly puts around sports, which allows them to thrive in spite of all ethics. Except for the farce of "sports ethics" that makes people say "wow, such a fair player" to an millionaire football player who gives the ball back to another millionaire in a stadium built by slaves. Like... this literally happens and people think it's fine and not laughable.
 
Fair enough. It is something I have toyed with the idea of subscribing to, you just can't watch live in the UK due to Sky monopolising, so its delayed full live races here. Hence why I have realised its probably best just to watch the highlights as I tend to prefer watching in the evening anyway.
In Spain it’s also forbidden due to DAZN, but I cheat the system by having a second residence in Portugal, which allows F1 TV haha
 
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Introduced recently and not compensating for past tech advantage, not covering some crucial expenses, plausibly bypassed by some loopholes, not reached by all, which means money still matters a lot.
But I'll be honest, I'd dislike the craziest literal-turbo-capitalist sport anyway.
And I'll take the "cheeky dude" as a compliment 😁
Yeah, in all fairness what would f1 be without loopholes am I right?
 
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I suppose it depends on what the Apple service offers. I am on the highest tier with F1TV so I get 4K HDR for all F1 events as well as the support series (F2, F3, Porsche SuperCup), in-car from all the drivers, plus the lead-up and after-report shows for Free Practice, Qualifying and the Race. So Apple would need to match all that for me to switch.

Same.
 
So been hearing skepticism about this deal going to Apple for while they are offering twice as much money as ESPN, ESPN is broadcast to around 75 million households via cable providers and ESPN+ has another 25 million subscribers (and then there is the upcoming ESPN streaming service). Apple TV+ is speculated to have about half this and that presumes F1 would be on the standard service and not a supplemental subscription like MLS.

So does FOM trade half the viewership for twice the money? I admit I find it a bit skeptical, as well.

One caveat is could Apple leverage this to eventually become the global broadcaster for F1? Apple TV+ is said to be available in 230 countries and if it offers the breadth of content that F1TV does, it could easily replace it. SKY has the UK and Ireland rights through 2029 and Germany, Switzerland and Italy through 2027, but Apple could take over those markets as SKY's contracts expire, which would give them the largest EU markets as well as the UK.
 
So been hearing skepticism about this deal going to Apple for while they are offering twice as much money as ESPN, ESPN is broadcast to around 75 million households via cable providers and ESPN+ has another 25 million subscribers (and then there is the upcoming ESPN streaming service). Apple TV+ is speculated to have about half this and that presumes F1 would be on the standard service and not a supplemental subscription like MLS.

So does FOM trade half the viewership for twice the money? I admit I find it a bit skeptical, as well.

One caveat is could Apple leverage this to eventually become the global broadcaster for F1? Apple TV+ is said to be available in 230 countries and if it offers the breadth of content that F1TV does, it could easily replace it. SKY has the UK and Ireland rights through 2029 and Germany, Switzerland and Italy through 2027, but Apple could take over those markets as SKY's contracts expire, which would give them the largest EU markets as well as the UK.
Spain expires after 2026. I am a subscriber of F1 TV Premium, but I would consider changing to  TV if offered the same perks
 
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