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You are not the arbiter of what is essential and what is not. For many people, the Apple Store is far more essential than many so-called essential operations that never shut down. If the Apple Store is open, folks can choose if it's essential on their own. That's the great thing about freedom.

I will go further and say that Apple is in fact essential to many of us. I rely on Apple products on a daily basis to do my job from my home and earn my living. Being able to visit Apple retail store for service, repair and checking out their products is quite essential to me.
 
I will go further and say that Apple is in fact essential to many of us. I rely on Apple products on a daily basis to do my job from my home and earn my living. Being able to visit Apple retail store for service, repair and checking out their products is quite essential to me.

You make some valid points, and technology does help advance our careers and work progress. But even if Apple stores reopen in my region, I’d still rather purchase online then visit an Apple Store as things stand currently. Mainly because there are such ‘close quarters’ in the stores with other individuals, but I imagine Apple will have restrictions with occupancy and of course ‘social distancing‘ will be maintained. But fortunately we have the convenience of making purchases right in the comfort of our homes. Technology Is an amazing thing that gives us advantages with then push of a button.
 
When the quarantine started I thought it would feel horrible being trapped at home with nowhere to go. But there are PLENTY of businesses still open in some fashion.

Here are some of the businesses and organizations that are deemed essential in North Carolina:
  • Healthcare and public health operations: This includes hospitals, clinics, dental offices, pharmacies, laboratories and veterinarian offices.
  • Human services operations: Child care facilities, nursing homes and shelters.
  • Essential infrastructure operations: Food and beverage producers, distributors, fulfillment centers and storage centers.
  • Essential government operations
  • Stores that sell groceries and medicine
  • Food and beverage production and agriculture
  • Charitable organizations and social services
  • Religious centers
  • Media
  • Transportation businesses: Gas stations, auto sales, supply and service centers and roadside assistance services. Airlines, Lyft and Uber, train services.
  • Financial and insurance institutions: Banks, lenders, insurance providers
  • Home improvement, hardware and supply stores
  • Critical trades: Construction, plumbers, electricians, exterminators, cleaning and janitorial services
  • Mail services
  • Laundry services
  • Restaurants (for consumption off-premises)
  • Businesses that provide supplies to work from home
  • Home-based care and services
  • Professional services: Legal services, accounting, insurance, engineering and architectural, land surveying, real estate and tax preparation.
  • Manufacturers, distributors and supply chain for critical industries
  • Defense and military contractors
  • Hotels and motels
  • Funeral services
  • Beer, wine and liquor stores
  • Book stores that sell educational materials
  • Pet and feed stores
It's a pretty big list, right?

It's not as "locked down" as the name suggests. :p
 
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Not in New Jersey. Stay at home extended indefinitely.
The whole nation can't do this and stay solvent.
I have a feeling a lot of places are going to reopen next month...hopefully they still continue to implement social distancing and limit how many people inside the store at any given time.
This is reasonable.
Why does this concern you? You have the choice to not enter any Apple Store. You are free to stay isolated in your bunker for as long as you want, peaking out of your window from time to time to see if people are still alive. So why would you care who enters the stores or how many do so? As long as you stay isolated you’re safe, right?
Everybody gets to choose what they want to do. But we can't stay closed for much longer. The damage being done to the fabric of the economy and nation is too great.
Nice to see more stores reopening. Apple is absolutely a critical product supplier, their phones, notebooks, and tablets run the country. We NEED Apple to be productive as a country, can't wait to see my local store open up again.
I agree.
So what business, if any, are more critical that should be opened? Maybe none?
It's funny. Walmart is open, but the guy making custom suits is forced to stay closed.
The number of new COVID cases will continue to increase no matter what we do, until we either have a vaccine or develop herd immunity. Would you propose we all live in bunkers for next ~2 years?

As long the curve remains flat and the medical services can handle the case load - we should be able to re-open our key businesses with some precautions and reasonable amount of social distancing. Life needs to go on.

I for one would go to the Apple Store, as long as all the reasonable precautions are in place. It's no more risky than going to a grocery store or a pharmacy.
Life DOES need to go on. And I think you're right. Everybody is allowed to go to the grocery store and the hardware store. But some states have actually disallowed people from driving to their summer homes...in places where there are FEWER people. How is this helping us with social distancing? It's not, and I'm starting to think that's because it never was intended to help with social distancing.
You are not the arbiter of what is essential and what is not. For many people, the Apple Store is far more essential than many so-called essential operations that never shut down. If the Apple Store is open, folks can choose if it's essential on their own. That's the great thing about freedom.
Well put. Although I think closing the car dealerships just might help cut down on fraud and graft, hehe. I just might buy my next new car through internet sales, just to avoid the sales games they try to play.
 
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I am sorry but I think many posts here missed the point of these measures. The goal was to “flatten the curve” so that ICUs are not overwhelmed. The goal was never to eliminate infections. The final total number of infections was not going to change much. If the curve has been flattened then it is time to move forward.
 
"Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee, for example, are letting stay at home orders expire"

Of course they are :mad:
And your solution is what, stay Inside forever and allow millions to eventually be homeless because they can’t work? Texas isn’t forcing any business to open and the ones that do will operate at 25%.

It’s time for people to start facing reality and move toward a new normal. Wear masks, operate at lower occupancy, clean more, keep more distance, whatever...but we cant hide in our houses forever.
 
I don’t think most places will go back to normal until June.

Covid-19 is here to stay and we just need to figure out how we are going to operate going forward.
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I am sorry but I think many posts here missed the point of these measures. The goal was to “flatten the curve” so that ICUs are not overwhelmed. The goal was never to eliminate infections. The final total number of infections was not going to change much. If the curve has been flattened then it is time to move forward.

The initial goal was to not overwhelm the healthcare system but now people want to continue the lockdown until Covid-19 is no longer present.

That's an unattainable goal and I agree with you that it's time to move forward.

I would leave the decision up to the states and localities.
 
You are not the arbiter of what is essential and what is not. For many people, the Apple Store is far more essential than many so-called essential operations that never shut down. If the Apple Store is open, folks can choose if it's essential on their own. That's the great thing about freedom.
The person you're replying to isn't the arbiter, but some people are, and they've decided stores are closed now in certain places. Personally I think such emergency measures should only last a month at most, and that time is over.

About the freedom thing, it's hard to justify letting people spread the virus just because they don't care. Like, I'm young and healthy enough not to worry about myself, but everyone's actions have a big impact on more at-risk people.
 
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I am sorry but I think many posts here missed the point of these measures. The goal was to “flatten the curve” so that ICUs are not overwhelmed. The goal was never to eliminate infections. The final total number of infections was not going to change much. If the curve has been flattened then it is time to move forward.
Actually, that was only one goal. The second goal was to reduce the number of total infections by delaying them long enough that a vaccine becomes available, or, in the more likely alternative, to reduce the total number of deaths by delaying infections long enough that most of them occur when therapeutics become available.

The ”it’s just to avoid overwhelming the ICUs” thing is a thing spread by people with certain agendas, but each of the other two points have been repeated endlessly by experts in the field as well.
 
I just might buy my next new car through internet sales, just to avoid the sales games they try to play.

I would never buy a new car over the internet.

A car is one of the items where I think that most people would like to examine and test drive the actual car they are buying.

I use the internet to get a guaranteed price on the car before going to the dealership so there are no sales games.
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Actually, that was only one goal. The second goal was to reduce the number of total infections by delaying them long enough that a vaccine becomes available, or, in the more likely alternative, to reduce the total number of deaths by delaying infections long enough that most of them occur when therapeutics become available.

A vaccine is currently just a pipe dream and is at least two years away even if it's possible.
 
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Apple Stores have a LOT of employees. Especially in NYC. Fifth Avenue has 900+ employees and at any given time you might have 100+ working throughout.

I wonder if hours and positions will be cut considering there won’t be a lot of people allowed in the stores and people in general won’t want to be in crowded places.

I believe Apple Stores are essential (IMO) and very necessary for people to see and experiences products/services.
 
Apple Stores have a LOT of employees. Especially in NYC. Fifth Avenue has 900+ employees and at any given time you might have 100+ working throughout.

I wonder if hours and positions will be cut considering there won’t be a lot of people allowed in the stores and people in general won’t want to be in crowded places.

I believe Apple Stores are essential (IMO) and very necessary for people to see and experiences products/services.

We have a ‘local’ mall that employees over 3500 people [Which are all furloughed at the moment until May 1], and obviously Apple is a part of that. There’s Community discussion in terms of how all these different retailers are going to manage occupancy in their stores given the amount of foot traffic This mall see on a daily basis. I think the challenge this poses, how do you efficiently/effectively manage so many people confined in a shopping center that are walking in and out of a store, which pose of the difficulty of giving one employee the Responsibility of coordinating to ensure the store only has XYZ amount of customers in it. This will be a very challenging time for retailers in general to somehow create social distancing with a restricted amount of customer flow in A store.

What I’m really trying to convey in a condensed form, retailers will be facing challenges they’ve never seen before and the only thing that they can do moving forward, is improvise, as this is a very fluid situation.
 
Many Apple Premium Resellers are open now in Italy, but retail shops inside malls are closed so I guess Apple Store won't open anytime soon, maybe in June. Some carriers are opened too, so if you iPhone stops working and new need a new one asap you can buy it there.
 
I think the challenge this poses, how do you efficiently/effectively manage so many people confined in a shopping center that are walking in and out of a store, which pose of the difficulty of giving one employee the Responsibility of coordinating to ensure the store only has XYZ amount of customers in it.
Malls and larger retailers often have such systems in place already for market research.
If not, here's a solution: https://www.synology.com/products/DVA3219
Or just put someone at the entrance with a 2 way hand counter. Less than 10 bucks on Amazon.
And those stores which can't afford that, are likely so small that the single employee in there can just shout through the store if people don't follow the rules.
 
I really don’t understand why...nothing has changed so why are more places becoming open. Just going to get another wave again.
 
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Because social distancing is pointless on an individual level. Individuals can’t stay isolated forever but communities can reduce risk for everyone.

Stay home till the vaccine is out, sorry but the world doesn’t need to end because you’re scared
 
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Here in Germany, shops that have reopened have to limit number of customers inside (1 person per 20 square metres / 215 square feet) and everyone has to wear masks. I don't see why this can't be done everywhere else.
 
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no need thankfully we’ve not been hit hard, I’m not scared.
The world will end for a lot of people with your attitude though.

Tell me why the economy must come to a complete stop when only one or 2% of the population are being affected by this?
 
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The number of new COVID cases will continue to increase no matter what we do, until we either have a vaccine or develop herd immunity. Would you propose we all live in bunkers for next ~2 years?

As long the curve remains flat and the medical services can handle the case load - we should be able to re-open our key businesses with some precautions and reasonable amount of social distancing. Life needs to go on.

I for one would go to the Apple Store, as long as all the reasonable precautions are in place. It's no more risky than going to a grocery store or a pharmacy.

What would I propose we do? Wait until cases are MUCH lower (not thousands dead each month), testing capacity is much higher, and contact tracing teams trained and in place. Many other places (NZ, Taiwan, HK, etc.) have managed to achieve some combination of these with fewer resources and in shorter time. It’s mind blowing to me that the US is still stumbling in the dark with the body count only growing higher and so many are perfectly fine with reopening for business.
 
Awesome to hear! Time to start reopening everything or let businesses decide if they wish to reopen. For people living in fear, it is your right to choose if you we wish to go to those businesses or you can also choose to stay home.

This is the USA and we have the freedom to choose. We are not a socialistic company! And some of us, like me will not be living in fear!
 


Deidre O'Brien, Apple's vice president of retail and people, today told Apple employees that "many more" Apple Stores are set to start reopening in May.

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O'Brien made the comments during a weekly video update shared with staff, according to Bloomberg. "We are continuing to analyze this health situation in every location, and I do expect we will reopen up many more stores in May," O'Brien told staff. Apple did not specify which stores would be reopened, or the regions where the stores would reopen first.

In March, Apple's retail chief Deirdre O'Brien said that Apple planned to begin opening some stores worldwide in the first half of April, and one lone store in South Korea was indeed opened again on April 18 for repairs and purchase pickups. No other stores have reopened at this time, and a separate retail source said told MacRumors that Apple is aiming to open stores in North America by mid-June.

When stores start reopening, Apple will take into account local conditions and recommendations. Some states in the U.S. have already begun relaxing their social distancing guidelines and allowing businesses to reopen, while others have extended shelter-in-place orders.

Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee, for example, are letting stay at home orders expire, while the Bay Area, where Apple is located, has extended its shelter-in-place order through the end of May. Apple will need to follow state restrictions and guidelines as stores begin to reopen.

All Apple Stores outside of Greater China (and the reopened South Korea location) have been closed since March 14. Over the course of the last few weeks, retail employees have been returning to work through training and meetings at home, while others have been handling online and phone support technical requests.

Article Link: Apple Expecting to Reopen 'Many More' Stores in May
While the Tennessee order will expire, the counties where Apple stores are located do not follow the state schedule, they will open when the county or city mayors are ready to open. The relaxed state orders are only going to apply for now to the smaller counties with less cases reported. So, dont expect stores to be open just yet.
 
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