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The cool kids have all moved to Rednote/Xiaohongshu already 😎

Will that get banned someday too? The cat and mouse game continues. 👌

I was going to say that. They’re on those apps, actually speaking to Chinese people, and unintentionally undoing decades of propaganda. Of course those apps will be next on the chopping block…
 
I was going to say that. They’re on those apps, actually speaking to Chinese people, and unintentionally undoing decades of propaganda. Of course those apps will be next on the chopping block…

More accurately, when will the CCP filter foreign users out of their social apps. They don't want us freedom folk infecting their regime.

Nothing to see here, just some kiddies throwing temper tantrums. Well, that one is a bit older.

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US Government not happy for not being able to control certain group.

There is a risk of China controlling the propaganda but it's not like social media here in the States is free from it.

Look at Mainstream Media (all-time low in trust), Hollywood (I don't have to mention), Reddit (Popular topics filled with propped-up posts against Trump), Twitter (giving direct access to FBI/CIA), Facebook (censoring journalists posts), Instagram (algorithm that messes with your mental health)...

We have X. Elon Musk says he is a "free-speech absolutist" but shadow-banning posts he does not agree with.


So back to TikTok, It's good to have that garbage blocked but it's not like social media is any better.
 
This is just ridiculous to see in America.
This is exactly how dictatorship established in russia — first they ban or restrict something that seems so insignificant. A bunch of people complain online but no one takes a real action.
This is how those who handle the power realize they can do basically anything. And they might do that. It might not. But do you really wanna check out where they would draw the line that won’t affect you personally? I am as a citizen of the country that allowed all of that **** to happen and then just invaded the other country. This crap escalates because these old men are this hungry.
Yeah, some of you might say it’s just an app, no big deal, there are more serious issues within the country than a ban of TikTok and you might be right. But this is how they take away your power to address the issues.
Please, take care and keep your eyes wide open!

I totally disagree. This is not about stifling free speech or taking away our power. We are free to discuss any controversial issue we wish on any other social media platform except for the one that is essentially directly controlled by a geopolitical adversary. The US government does not directly control the algorithms on X or Facebook or tell us what we can and can’t talk about or learn about. Period. That is a huge difference. The CCP censors dissent and there is no concept of freedom of speech for their own citizens - you think they’re hands off (or will be hands-off forever) with something as powerful as TikTok for their geopolitical adversaries?

ByteDance is controlled by the CCP and giving them the power to tweak algorithms that apply to the information consumption of more than 100m Americans is a power that is unacceptable to hand over to a foreign government. We can buy their manufactured goods and they can buy our soybeans. Allowing them the power to determine the nature of our political and social discourse is reckless.

If you don’t believe that ByteDance is directly controlled by the CCP you can check out their AI they’ve tampered with (willingly or by force) that they put in an ereader.


If you think the extent of the CCP’s power is influencing an AI put in a niche ereader and not the social media network that has a generation of American teens hooked I have a bridge to sell you.
 
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I’m not comparing the countries, I’m just saying that this is how it began. Trump already has the senate and the Supreme Court.
But this guys is on your watch.

Hey not my problem. I’m in the UK. Just getting the popcorn out.

This started a long long time ago. Killing TikTok is a step away from it.
 
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Because we're supposed to be a free country.
All major media outlets in the US are already censored in what they ultimately deliver to the citizens. Social media is no different. The US doesn’t want a foreign entity running a major US media platform. When TikTok was allowing lots of posts about a certain country in the Middle East that cannot be criticized, that was the tipping point.
 
More accurately, when will the CCP filter foreign users out of their social apps. They don't want us freedom folk infecting their regime.

More like the “freedom country” got upset that the reality of the genocide they actively support was being shown too much on a platform they can’t control. 🤷‍♂️
 
I totally disagree. This is not about stifling free speech or taking away our power. We are free to discuss any controversial issue we wish on any other social media platform except for the one that is essentially directly controlled by a geopolitical adversary. The US government does not directly control the algorithms on X or Facebook or tell us what we can and can’t talk about or learn about. Period. That is a huge difference. The CCP censors dissent and there is no concept of freedom of speech for their own citizens - you think they’re hands off (or will be hands-off forever) with something as powerful as TikTok for their geopolitical adversaries?

ByteDance is controlled by the CCP and giving them the power to tweak algorithms that apply to the information consumption of more than 100m Americans is a power that is unacceptable to hand over to a foreign government. We can buy their manufactured goods and they can buy our soybeans. Allowing them the power to determine the nature of our political and social discourse is reckless.
When the government tries to control business is always an alert. But I’m not gonna argue with you on that.
Unfortunately, you guys will see soon what this orange man will do with a free speech that you yet have.
 
The cool kids have all moved to Rednote/Xiaohongshu already 😎

Will that get banned someday too? The cat and mouse game continues. 👌
If people are that dim that they don’t care about themselves or their data to the foreign adversary, let them have at it I guess.
 
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All major media outlets in the US are already censored in what they ultimately deliver to the citizens. Social media is no different. The US doesn’t want a foreign entity running a major US media platform. When TikTok was allowing lots of posts about a certain country in the Middle East that cannot be criticized, that was the tipping point.

100%. Amazing that so many cannot see this for what it is.
 
More accurately, when will the CCP filter foreign users out of their social apps. They don't want us freedom folk infecting their regime.

Nothing to see here, just some kiddies throwing temper tantrums. Well, that one is a bit older.

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I can't wait for lefties to constantly self implode over orange man second term and nonsensical things they can't remember the following day but cared so much about because they were told to by the tv and their comrade peers. What we've seen before will pale in comparison to the level of loser like crap we will see for the next 4 years. Compounded with the fact that the average working class person has extreme 2nd hand TDS exhaustion.

Democrats (and RINOs) will never be electable ever again.
 
So the American government cannot take action to prevent a foreign adversary from conducting a honeypot operation on American citizens and then using that data to conduct psychological warfare?

TikTok is the online version of a white van with free candy painted on the outside. Free candy sounds great and people like free candy but then don't like what actually comes next.

China does not have the military dominance to take on the US 1v1. They can and are very good at the new type of warfare that is emerging. Its psychological and its going to be very bad.

China is actively preparing to take Taiwan in the next 2-4 years. Their preparations for this are very transparent for anyone paying attention.

When this eventually happens, they are going to have to wage an information warfare too.

The fact that they have a direct connection to a big portion of the American youth is very frightening.

LOL good grief. I feel like I was just transported to the 50’s. Will McCarthy rise from the grave to reform his committee on un-American activities? Perhaps we can bring back the lavender scare? :rolleyes:
 
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I can't wait for lefties to constantly self implode over orange man second term. What we've seen before will pale in comparison to the level of loser like crap we will see for the next 4 years.

Democrats (and RINOs) will never be electable ever again.

It’s very odd that all you seem to want is others to be unhappy and a one-party country. Just remember Trump barely scraped out a popular win, and didn’t even break 50%.
 
It’s very odd that all you seem to want is others to be unhappy and a one-party country. Just remember Trump barely scraped out a popular win, and didn’t even break 50%.

Others perpetuate their own misery. I am merely a spectator. Ideally, they'd act like grown adults and take some responsibility for actions in their own life and move on. But if they're going to waffle about hopelessly and wear it on their sleeve with every interaction, and because they are, I will unfold my lawn chair and watch with utter amazement while eating popcorn to absorb the depths by which people will pluck out their own feathers and try to convince every one else that that is the moral high ground. Call me compassionate.

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Legally, these laws have been in place for decades and have applied to newspapers and other media.

Politics made this bigger than it really is.
 
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Yes, Meta and all the rest do the same and it is for that reason that I don't use anything under the Meta umbrella, but it is silly not to acknowledge the difference between a US company doing it for profit and a foreign adversary using it to bury us.
TikTok is a for-profit company just like Meta.

What do you mean by a "foreign adversary using it to bury us"?
Sounds like despite not using Meta products, you've been influenced by American propaganda.
So the American government cannot take action to prevent a foreign adversary from conducting a honeypot operation on American citizens and then using that data to conduct psychological warfare?
TikTok is a video content platform.
Most videos on it are harmless from what I can see.
Maybe not healthy from psychologically - but far away from "warfare".
China is actively preparing to take Taiwan in the next 2-4 years
...as is Trump preparing to take Greenland and the Panama Canal?
The fact that they have a direct connection to a big portion of the American youth is very frightening.
What's frightening is the American youth believing anything and everything they're served on social media.
 
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