Apple Exploring Two-Step Touch ID and Facial Recognition System for iPhone 8

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Noted KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo released a research report today in which he outlined further expectations for Apple's 2017 iPhone, including new biometric identification technology as well as the necessity of a new design to provide better structural support for a flexible OLED display with 3D Touch capability.
Apple may switch to a film sensor from the current FPCB sensor in order to provide better 3D Touch user experience, as a film sensor offers higher sensitivity. Also, we expect the new OLED iPhone will come with a flexible OLED panel. To avoid deforming the form factor of the flexible OLED panel from touch operation pressure, a metal structural part will be placed under the film sensor to provide more robust structural support.
Kuo also believes Apple is developing a new Touch ID technology for its next iPhone "to complement its full-screen (zero bezel) form factor design and to enhance transactions security". According to Kuo, the existing "under glass" design of fingerprint recognition doesn't meet the requirements of full-screen form factor designs, therefore an "under panel" placement is required.

As a result, Kuo says Apple aims to switch from the current capacitive-type to an optical-type system. Despite the technology still being in the early stages of development and the fact that OLED panel makers will have to provide bespoke designs for the system to work, Kuo believes Apple has the bargaining power to request the customizations.


Notably, Kuo believes the fingerprint recognition system will "ultimately be replaced by a facial recognition system" for enhanced security. "However, if the technical challenges cannot be overcome, we believe a combination of fingerprint and facial recognition is another possible solution."
Judging by the bio-recognition patents that Apple has applied for, we believe it is leaning toward facial recognition technology rather than iris recognition. However, we note that the technical challenges of facial recognition include: (1) algorithms; (2) hardware design; and (3) the build-out of a database for verification and authentication, which could be time consuming. As such, before Apple can fully replace the fingerprint system with facial recognition, a combination of the two steps of bio-recognition could be a valid solution for enhancing transactions security.
Assuming the technological challenges are not too great and adoption this year isn't too soon, Kuo suggests Apple's new system will usher in a "paradigm shift" for the application of biometric identification in smartphones.

Kuo's latest report builds on previous predictions regarding this year's "10th anniversary" iPhone, which is expected to feature a radical redesign with an embedded home button in an edge-to-edge display, a glass body, and potentially wireless charging. Previous rumors suggesting the iPhone 8 could include advanced biometric features like facial recognition or iris scanning have pointed to the possibility that they could also power augmented reality camera functions.

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Money says if wireless charging will only work in close proximity. Any TED demos to feature wireless charging required a charger the size of a small car and a tiny target area for the device. Mainstream real wireless charging hasn't arrived yet because it's not ready yet. Still a few years away, at least—in my opinion.
 
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The best feature will be the built-in yearly disappointment for the babies around here.
Disappointment, no. Left unenthusiastic, yes. The problem is we are encouraged to upgrade annually but tech doesn't move that fast. So of course the "next year's" model is only going to be incremental and unexceptional.

Also it's not surprising that MR readers have imaginations bigger than reality can provide so expectations are larger than that of the general consumer. Certainly tech makers and retailers share in the blame of people being disappointed, if they are. How many times has TC crowed about an exciting product pipeline only to not have shown much at year's end?
 

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Money says if wireless charging will only work in close proximity. Any TED demos to feature wireless charging required a charger the size of a small car and a tiny target area for the device. Mainstream real wireless charging hasn't arrived yet because it's not ready yet. Still a few years away, at least—in my opinion.
To be practical.. The wireless chargers only needs to be able to reach the distance of a current standard lightening cord
 

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Sounds like to me, after reading about the possible new technologies they can use, that the next iPhone will be very late. It sounds like most of the technologies are still in development and/or haven't been used before and need extensive testing. Can you say "iPhone 8 in LATE TWO OH ONE EIGHT"!!! :)
 
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Disappointment, no. Left unenthusiastic, yes. The problem is we are encouraged to upgrade annually but tech doesn't move that fast. So of course the "next year's" model is only going to be incremental and unexceptional.

Also it's not surprising that MR readers have imaginations bigger than reality can provide so expectations are larger than that of the general consumer. Certainly tech makers and retailers share in the blame of people being disappointed, if they are. How many times has TC crowed about an exciting product pipeline only to not have shown much at year's end?
Yes. If the new gear doesn't wow you there's a simple solution: wait one more year. Every second year changes are quite dramatic.

This said, I expect nothing less than a marvel from the iPhone 10th Anniversary.
 

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How will you authenticate purchases using iris scan? ... it can automatically make a purchase while you are reading the details and need some time to decide... it will require 2-steps to make a purchase.
 
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Noted KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo released a research report today in which he outlined further expectations for Apple's 2017 iPhone, including new biometric identification technology as well as the necessity of a new design to provide better structural support for a flexible OLED display with 3D Touch capability.
Kuo also believes Apple is developing a new Touch ID technology for its next iPhone "to complement its full-screen (zero bezel) form factor design and to enhance transactions security". According to Kuo, the existing "under glass" design of fingerprint recognition doesn't meet the requirements of full-screen form factor designs, therefore an "under panel" placement is required.

As a result, Kuo says Apple aims to switch from the current capacitive-type to an optical-type system. Despite the technology still being in the early stages of development and the fact that OLED panel makers will have to provide bespoke designs for the system to work, Kuo believes Apple has the bargaining power to request the customizations.


Notably, Kuo believes the fingerprint recognition system will "ultimately be replaced by a facial recognition system" for enhanced security. "However, if the technical challenges cannot be overcome, we believe a combination of fingerprint and facial recognition is another possible solution."
Assuming the technological challenges are not too great and adoption this year isn't too soon, Kuo suggests Apple's new system will usher in a "paradigm shift" for the application of biometric identification in smartphones.

Kuo's latest report builds on previous predictions regarding this year's "10th anniversary" iPhone, which is expected to feature a radical redesign with an embedded home button in an edge-to-edge display, a glass body, and potentially wireless charging. Previous rumors suggesting the iPhone 8 could include advanced biometric features like facial recognition or iris scanning have pointed to the possibility that they could also power augmented reality camera functions.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 

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How will you authenticate purchases using iris scan? ... it can automatically make a purchase while you are reading the details and need some time to decide... it will require 2-steps to make a purchase.
0-click purchase process is the future. Combined with delivery drones, every day will be like Xmas.
 

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If the touchID tech is currently where the paper describes it now, it will be nowhere near ready for millions of produced iphones i october. So forget about this bezelfree edge-to-edge OLED phone. It's not happening (for now). The 10th anniversary phone will be a LOT less advanced and dreamy compared to all these rumours. It may be more than our usual incremental S upgrades, but it's surely not going to be any sort of "major leap forward" type release.

Settle down and adjust your expectations. That way you will spare yourself from a lot of disapointment come october :)
 
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