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Interesting approach. I dug deeper into this. Other models are trained with 16-bit weights, and then shrunk (quantized) by throwing data away to reduce the weights to 8-bit, or 4-bit, or 2-bit, etc. Once you get below 4-bit, most models hallucinate and make mistakes to the point of being unreliable or even unusable. PrismML flips this and trains the model to 1-bit weights from the start, which does yield much better results. PrismML is due to release their 27B model shortly, which supposedly can run on an iPhone 17 Pro (I would read between the lines and assume that means it was still too big to run on an iPhone 15 Pro/iPhone 16). We will have to wait and see how good this new model is. If they can prove that their training methodology scales with larger models, this would be great news.

Running a model on your phone requires more than just the core model weights - it also needs a KV cache that tracks what questions/information you sent to the model. For a long conversation, the KV cache may require as much memory as the model weights themselves. Fortunately, companies like Google have developed algorithms (TurboQuant) to compress the KV cache. So PrismML + TurboQuant drastically reduce the memory required to run a model.

However, to make a proper comparison, you must realize that frontier models (ChatGPT, Claude) are absolutely massive, using over 1T parameters (estimated, as they don't actually publish this info). Current open source models with 35B to 120B parameters are comparable, but definitely not as good.

So the real question that hasn't been answered yet is that even with all of these improvements in memory usage, will the model that you can run on your phone be good enough? My honest guess is "no" until phones start shipping with 16 to 32 GB of RAM.
I’ll be curious to see preliminary results for their 27B model and if their approach scales to larger models. It would be great to get a 1-bit gpt-oss-120b that works as well as the 8-bit version. That currently requires a 128GB, but if I could run it on my 64GB with comparable results, I won’t feel so bad about not maxing out my MBP memory. I think my previous post ends with a similar wait-and-see as your post except that I didn’t include an honest guess. That said I lean towards agreeing with you. So far the “math is mathing” but at a certain point I’m not sure math and aggressive compression can overcome insufficient memory. Interesting times ahead either way.
 
This is a pretty big deal. I've been using their Ternary Bonsai 8B model on my iPhone 16 PM since April and I am quite impressed with just how well it actually works. I have yet to blow out the RAM on my phone using it. Whereas with Qwen 3.5 4B I frequently have iOS dump the Locally AI app after about 2-3 questions in a conversation.

I'm glad to see that Apple is paying attention to what they have managed to pull off. All I could think about during WWDC is that if they adopted PrismML's tech Apple could get their most advanced models to work even on the iPhone 15 Pro. Hopefully this pays off in a year or two.

There have been papers about binary and ternary models for a few years now but PrismML seems like they have been able to beat most (everyone?) and actually created something that is usable right now.

 
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Prism ML is just in the seeding stage of their company. It will be many years away until they can actually do anything and they will need way more capital investment. 16 million is not going to cut cheese.
Astonishing, just astonishing.
I point out you can download the SW TODAY on your phone and try it out, and it just doesn't register, not even slightly. No curiosity, no update, no attempt to download the software.
The bot just continues with its pre-existing script, regardless of pesky details like actual facts.
 
👏 NOBODY 👏 WANTS 👏 THIS 👏 AI 👏 GARBAGE 👏
That’s your opinion. For me, Siri AI saved me a huge amount of time today.

I had 10 Excel files. I selected them all, right-clicked, and asked Siri AI to calculate the total of all the amounts across those files and extract a deduplicated list of all the addresses they contained. The result? In about 10 seconds, it gave me both the total and the complete list of unique addresses. Doing that manually would have taken me much longer.

If, to you, AI is only about editing photos, that’s your perspective. But in many other areas, it can be an incredibly useful tool. Obviously it’s not for everyone, as in your case, but for many people (including me) it absolutely is.
 
I'm not an expert but maybe increase RAM to 16 GB 🤣🤣
Good idea, but do you want to pay for the added RAM, of course, the battery has to supply power to the added RAM. What they are doing is making the model more efficient so that it runs with less resource consumption.

What is very surprising is that they have gotten to 1-bit.
 
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That’s your opinion. For me, Siri AI saved me a huge amount of time today.

I had 10 Excel files. I selected them all, right-clicked, and asked Siri AI to calculate the total of all the amounts across those files and extract a deduplicated list of all the addresses they contained. The result? In about 10 seconds, it gave me both the total and the complete list of unique addresses. Doing that manually would have taken me much longer.

If, to you, AI is only about editing photos, that’s your perspective. But in many other areas, it can be an incredibly useful tool. Obviously it’s not for everyone, as in your case, but for many people (including me) it absolutely is.
This is where some people are only aware of the political photos and people with 8 fingers. Those are the people that are getting lapped right now. It's not that the tools are perfect, but it's not all sloppy memes.
 
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I wan't more AI, as much as possible.

It helps a lot on my activities and helps me run my business much better.

People that are against Ai is just an advantage for me.
 
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