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The incessant whining about a lack of new products announced at this event is predictable and tiring.

More to the point. What is being EMPHASIZED there? What do most attendees find interesting there?

In case you guys missed it, after a product is announced, which only happens once, it has a product lifecycle, consumer feedback, bug fixes and a life of its own.

Rocketman
 
babyjenniferLB

Vodafone Hong Kong = Smartone

they are everywhere, you just don't know it
 
3G iphone...........???

You know what's scary?

3G iPhone is beginning to feel like it has the same potential future joke factor as "Powerbook G5".

You know, many operators are going to roll out 4G networks in a couple of years. 3GPP Release 8 (UMTS LTE) is due for finalization before the end of this year. And, supposedly, the technology will be more efficient in every sense than the awful Code Division Multiple Access based stuff most 3G used.

What that bit of jargon means is that if Apple wants to, they might feel they can (and should) wait and jump right to a 4G iPhone, skipping 3G completely.

You read it here first.
 
Well, really do not care if it is Paris, London, Berlin or St. Petersburg – but Apple's ignorance (yep - the word might be a little strong, but it's getting there) about it's European customers is getting to a point where it becomes annoying (and this is NOT any kind of an anti-US statement). Apple has much more growth potential in Europe and Asia than in the US and due to the decline of the USD it certainly makes good money overseas, as they sell the products for a lot more money here (much more than just adding VAT and shipping would justify - but others like Adobe are much worse). iPhone delay, iPod Touch availability, no movies and TV shows, absence of stores outside the UK, absence from Apple events... come on, just some glass pearls, like an Product RED iMac for Apple Expo Paris would have been appreciated. :mad:

When Europe accounts for the bulk of Apple's sales, then you will see more attention to Europe.
 
Paris

Je peut pas y aller, je suis dégoûter .... Fait chier...

L'année prochaine vais tous faire pour y aller, en plus avec le TGV c'est juste à 1h3o de chez moi mais ca coute quand meme chere le TGV ... voyait
je pensse pas que quelqu'un comprenne quelque chose a ceu que j'ecrit et moi non plus ca tombe bien....

De tout facon à par dire Mac je t'aime tu est l'amour de ma vie et aucun autre mec pourra te remplacer meme pas un certain raymond...:D
J'ai pas grand chose a dire, j'attend ce putain d'iphone qui viens pas et leopard .... Snif

@plus vous americain qui nous envoyé des pomme déjà croquer.... mais tellement bonne ;)
 
As usual Apple expo Paris....zzzzzzzzzzz.....
we don't care French people as we have the best cheese and wine and women and food and country in the world ;)
PS: i'm french of course !

Ahh those French women... perhaps the most beautiful I've seen. Cheese... yes I very much enjoy French cheeses, especially Rockefort (sp?). Wine? Hmm, the jury's out on that one. It's hard to beat a Rioja from Spain or a Sauvignon Blanc from NZ.

Now where's my new aluminium macbook? :)
 
You know what's scary?

3G iPhone is beginning to feel like it has the same potential future joke factor as "Powerbook G5".

You know, many operators are going to roll out 4G networks in a couple of years.

What that bit of jargon means is that if Apple wants to, they might feel they can (and should) wait and jump right to a 4G iPhone, skipping 3G completely.

You read it here first.

2010 before 4G is in any usable state, though, right? And three years is a lifetime in cellphone handsets.

I do see your point, though. Apple couldn't get the G5 chip in a PowerBook because of power and heat issues and the G4 machines were eventually outclassed (for the last year to 18 months of their life more or less).

There are similarities, but the G5 was a specific chip line from one manufacturer, whereas all cellphone manufacturers are clamoring for better power consumption in their high-end handsets.

With that in mind, you'd hope the development is a little bit faster than the glacial dev speed of the PowerPC "G" series (or whatever their official, non-Apple designation was...).
 
2010 before 4G is in any usable state, though, right? And three years is a lifetime in cellphone handsets.

I wouldn't be so sure. I've read at least one operator say that upgrading from 3G to 4G is going to be a picnic compared to 2G to 3G. As in one Japanese operator saying it'll cost around 10% of what it did to switch to 3G. Another factor to consider is that certain 4G standards more or less exist already, such as WiMAX, albeit with higher level services like voice not standardized yet. Indeed, WiMAX is considered the likely primary system for the 700MHz spectrum that's being auctioned off soon.

Another thing which is bothering me is that T-Mobile US has had UMTS spectrum covering the entire country now since late last year and put in their 2006 Annual Report that they'd already blanketed the New York area in UMTS service. It's now September, and they've yet to roll out a single 3G handset. I'm wondering if they're having second thoughts and considering waiting another year and using the spectrum for 4G instead. Same costs, superior network, in theory anyway.

3G is considered a white elephant by much of the industry. Nobody ever offered any compelling services over it. It was too slow, had too high latency, and had too poor capacity, to be a serious Internet service provision system. Few people were interested in streaming media services. 4G at least has the capability to be something better.

There are similarities, but the G5 was a specific chip line from one manufacturer, whereas all cellphone manufacturers are clamoring for better power consumption in their high-end handsets.

This is true, and generally my comments are a little tongue in cheek. I'm not sure I even believe the power consumption excuse, there are plenty of UMTS phones out there with acceptable power consumption (and plenty of 2G phones, like most Motorolas I've ever had, that have poor power consumption)

Over-all though, it'd be interesting to see how much of a difference 4G makes, whether any networks are up within the next 18 months and whether, if they are, Apple embraces 4G with more enthusiasm than it's showing for 3G.
 
... J'ai pas grand chose a dire, j'attend ce putain d'iphone qui viens pas et leopard .... Snif

Hmm. I love it. And it flies ok as long as one doesn't read much français.. ;)

Anyway as someone noted in a post elsewhere, apparently you can say "witch" in a MacRumors post, although of course that reference was intended to draw attention to what the poster had called the witch's, uh.. :rolleyes: elbows.
 
Re-pas

Hmm. I love it. And it flies ok as long as one doesn't read much français.. ;)

Anyway as someone noted in a post elsewhere, apparently you can say "witch" in a MacRumors post, although of course that reference was intended to draw attention to what the poster had called the witch's, uh.. :rolleyes: elbows.

Je comprend rien a ce que ta dit, mais je suis a fond avec toi.......
Si tu comprend juste ca... " j ai pas envie de faire partie des clients d 'ORANGE please" mais je "witch" un iphone ...
 
Je comprend rien a ce que ta dit, mais je suis a fond avec toi.......
Si tu comprend juste ca... " j ai pas envie de faire partie des clients d 'ORANGE please" mais je "witch" un iphone ...

Yes well then you are of course like us who "witch" the iPhone ;) that's a good one! -- but not an exclusive romance with ATT.

Mais au point de mon "post" précédente

:( what the h is the word for post

En un auture "post" que j'ai lu hier, en forum "Community Discussions", ce qui a discuté le climat où on avait lieu, quelqu'un a écrit "froid en tant que mamelon d'une sorcière"... pas chacun considérerait la cela comme étant langue polie.

No big deal mais c'était possible que le moderateur pourrait avoir réprimandé l'auteur. Mais non... rien... silence... Tellement puis, un autre membre de forum a simplement mentionné le mot "sorcière" en tant qu'étant "acceptable" et n'a pas écrit encore le mot auquel l'objection pourrait avoir été prise… et alors plus tard j'ai écrit des "coudes" au lieu de mentionner le domaine plus sensible de l'anatomie de la sorcière.

Ainsi, en conséquence, ici quand vous aviez écrit de l'argot pour se référer à l'iPhone, probablement une traduction de cet argot aurait soulevé le sourcil du modérateur. (ou peut-être pas !)

Je ne sais pas montrer la censure du mot "putain" de la manière que je pourrais dire quelque chose légèrement dérogatoire (ou plaisanterie) au sujet de l'iPhone, comme "the f'g iPhone" ou "le f#@*ing iPhone", get it?

I suppose our self-censorship is stupid because even a nine year old child today knows what is meant by f'g whether it is spelled fully or not.

Anyway we know you were just joking. And impatient for the iPhone! Or any other good news about delivery dates to come from the Expo.
 
So... Paris Expo finishes 29th - does this mean it runs tomorrow? or was today the last day???

How I was hoping for something :(

Oh well, you never know! - They may announce it soon :confused::(
 
Yes it does run tomorrow on Saturday.
Nothing interesting was revealed this year, whether hardware or software. We don't even have an official Leopard release date so it's been underwhelming. I hope we get something on the last day.

As for those of us who expected an iPhone announcement for France, well, complete silence on Apple's part. It turns out that our major carrier Orange is refusing to share more than 30% revenue with Apple and the iPhone's release is jeopardized.
 
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