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Apple Music/iTunes is the leading music store.

Apple TV is the newest subscription streaming service, but their movie store is the second biggest next to Amazon Prime. By pressing one switch Apple could add hundreds of movies to the subscription that would be a rotating selection changing every month.
Apple is never going to flick that switch. iTunes movie/tv is never going subscription.
 
As is typical MR fashion.....to condemn Apple's product before giving it a chance saying it will fail or remain niche. And people said the iPod would fail, the iPad would fail, the iPhone would fail, the Apple Watch would fail. At this point I'd say Apple knows what they are doing and the MR crowd against Apple doesn't have a clue.
Thanks for making a point. In typical MR fashion praise Apple at all costs.
 
Apple is never going to flick that switch. iTunes movie/tv is never going subscription.

It is likely, but not yet. One of the things Amazon does is to release a selection of movies as part of subscription for a month or two. After that customers who really liked the film and want to see it again either have to rent it or buy it because it isn’t going to appear in the free selection again for a long time or ever. It’s a very good way to convert free content into sales.

That strategy comes directly from studios. They let Amazon and Netflix pay them a small amount for a selection of films in the catalogs because they know it will increase sales of old titles later.
 
So you disliked less than 10% of content, therefore is sucks. Got it. You must hate all streaming services.
I watched 3. Gave up. I never said it sucks. That was you. Lol. I said I don’t like it. Jesus man Try not to take things personally.

It’s ok if others don’t like the same things you do.

I’m loving discovery+. So there goes you theory. Lol
 
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It is likely, but not yet. One of the things Amazon does is to release a selection of movies as part of subscription for a month or two. After that customers who really liked the film and want to see it again either have to rent it or buy it because it isn’t going to appear in the free selection again for a long time or ever. It’s a very good way to convert free content into sales.

That strategy comes directly from studios. They let Amazon and Netflix pay them a small amount for a selection of films in the catalogs because they know it will increase sales of old titles later.
I’ll believe it when Apple does it. I don’t use Amazon tv also. Use Netflix some as it free for me. I love discovery+
 
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I think it's worth going back to why (I think) Apple has its own streaming service. Ultimately, Apple seeks to establish a curated feed of storytelling for various members of the family. Apple is using its own content as a carrot to get people into the Apple TV app in order to watch content from other video bundles. In addition to earning revenue from Apple TV+, Apple earns a piece of the revenue streams generated from third-party video subscriptions created via the Apple TV app.

Remember in another article, Tim Cooks states that Apple focuses on products where they can integrate hardware, software and services. In the case of TV+, this dynamic probably takes the form of a show like "The Morning Show" being placed next to compelling content from third-party video bundles in order to create a comprehensive paid video platform powered by good storytelling, user privacy, and human curation.

Then, streaming tv isn't mutually exclusive the same way music streaming is. There is nothing stopping people from subscribing to multiple such services, and the reality is that many people likely already do, because each service has a couple of shows that are worth catching.

Next, I think where Apple is going is for compelling storytelling. It's been a while, but many of the shows on TV+ contain some deeper message or meaning. For example, The Morning Show focuses on the MeToo movement, See lets us view things from a different perspective, while Dickinson revisits an uglier aspect of US history. Movies like Tehran, Wolfwalkers and The Banker are also pretty thought-provoking as well.

I don't get the same takeaway from shows like House of Cards or Stranger things. Many of Netflix's shows make for a good 2 hours of mindless popcorn-munching, but they don't exactly leave me questioning aspects of society or culture.

However, I think the pandemic has resulted in Apple being unable to sustain the stream of high-quality shows coming.

But in all, I still think Apple is on to something with Apple TV+ and the Apple TV app, and I wouldn't be too quick to discount them yet.
 
I haven’t received yet, and my free year expires in February. I will watch a few documentaries and then cancel my subscription, as I’m not interested in their fiction.

Does anyone know about a good streaming service with documentaries? Thank you.

Curiosity Stream
 
Apple Music/iTunes is the leading music store.

Apple TV is the newest subscription streaming service, but their movie store is the second biggest next to Amazon Prime. By pressing one switch Apple could add hundreds of movies to the subscription that would be a rotating selection changing every month.

It wouldn't be "the flick of a switch." It would be lots of lengthy negotiations with the rights holders for that content about revenue sharing etc. Apple doesn't have the licence to just start making other people's content available for free.
 
It wouldn't be "the flick of a switch." It would be lots of lengthy negotiations with the rights holders for that content about revenue sharing etc. Apple doesn't have the licence to just start making other people's content available for free.

ya the flick comes after that. Those same rights holders (media corps) on the Music Store also own the majority of films.
 
By pressing one switch Apple could add hundreds of movies to the subscription that would be a rotating selection changing every month.

No, that is not how it works. They would need to create new licensing deals with studios/creators
 
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ya the flick comes after that. Those same rights holders (media corps) on the Music Store also own the majority of films.
Change films to content.

If AppleTV did what Netflix/Prime did with “renting” content, this will contradict Tim and the original strategy of AppleTV+. The fanatics here will redact how much they love Apple’s emphasis on originals and instead love how it’s a real competitor to Netflix.
 
Next, I think where Apple is going is for compelling storytelling. It's been a while, but many of the shows on TV+ contain some deeper message or meaning. For example, The Morning Show focuses on the MeToo movement, See lets us view things from a different perspective, while Dickinson revisits an uglier aspect of US history. Movies like Tehran, Wolfwalkers and The Banker are also pretty thought-provoking as well.

I don't get the same takeaway from shows like House of Cards or Stranger things. Many of Netflix's shows make for a good 2 hours of mindless popcorn-munching, but they don't exactly leave me questioning aspects of society or culture.

Perhaps you are part of the niche audiences that desire to only have Apple regurgitate and saturate real world issues into a “compelling” story. If Netflix/Disney/Universal/etc had done it, you wouldn’t have recognized it because it’s not Apple. I would think most people would want content that is at the very least watercooler material.
 
No worries 5 years from now the Apple TV Plus haters/naysayers will be quieted down when Apple's library will have top shelf content and AppleTV Plus will be the preferred streaming service. Nothing new here, the same trashed the iPad and now it has the highest marketshare and the preferred tablet by hospitals, corporations and standard consumers.
 
Change films to content.

If AppleTV did what Netflix/Prime did with “renting” content, this will contradict Tim and the original strategy of AppleTV+. The fanatics here will redact how much they love Apple’s emphasis on originals and instead love how it’s a real competitor to Netflix.
What did Tim want to do and what was the original strategy of AppleTV Plus?
 
To get paid subscribers.
Look man just because you and a few others here don't like the content doesn't mean Apple isn't getting paid subscribers. Where is your proof on this? Seems to be that Apple One is taking off very well. Furthermore Apple extended the AppleTV Plus free trial for over a year in good faith due to COVID since production had to be shut down. The problem with you a few others here is you seem to think Macrumors forum members are the majority of Apple's customers (which is hardly true) and if the people here here don't like Apple's stuff then nobody else does. News for you, people who frequent forums with opinions are the smallest of Apple's customer base.
 
Look man just because you and a few others here don't like the content doesn't mean Apple isn't getting paid subscribers. Where is your proof on this? Seems to be that Apple One is taking off very well. Furthermore Apple extended the AppleTV Plus free trial for over a year in good faith due to COVID since production had to be shut down. The problem with you a few others here is you seem to think Macrumors forum members are the majority of Apple's customers (which is hardly true) and if the people here here don't like Apple's stuff then nobody else does. News for you, people who frequent forums with opinions are the smallest of Apple's customer base.
Do you feel better now? The people here are the minority. I’d be willing to bet most people with iPhones have never even looked at tv+. Everyone I know who has a iPhone (maybe 25). No one has even looked at it.

No interest is what they say. They are fine with NF and Disney

you still ignored my last post. Apple want paid subs no free ones. Seems pretty clear they aren’t getting those numbers.

whatever I don’t use it. Doesn’t bother me. Why does it bother you
 
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Do you feel better now?
No need to be condescending. Tends to happen when people are losing an argument.
The people here are the minority. I’d be willing to bet most people with iPhones have never even looked at tv+.
Ha that's funny. Got a crystal ball? Once again, just because you don't care for the content or the service you think everyone else feels the same way. 🙄
Everyone I know who has a iPhone (maybe 25). No one has even looked at it.
LMAO. Wow 25 whole people is absolutely proof enough that nobody watches Apple TV Plus. You do realize Apple sells millions of iPhones per quarter? SMH.
Apple want paid subs no free ones. Seems pretty clear they aren’t getting those numbers.
A company can't get paid subs when they are extending free trials. Business 101. Sorry if that's hard to comprehend. Also Apple One (which you are conveniently ignoring) has gotten instant success.
whatever I don’t use it. Doesn’t bother me. Why does it bother you
Haha you seem to want others here to think like you do. If you don't care for it the rest should agree with you. That's been the majority of your posts. All you have to say is "It's a good service for others but just not for me". Instead your making unsubstantiated claims........based on 25 friends. 🙄
 
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ya the flick comes after that. Those same rights holders (media corps) on the Music Store also own the majority of films.
Nope. Only Sony Music is owned by the same company as a film studio with a significant library. Neither of the other two big 3 music companies owns movie or TV content.
 
Exact same premise (and critical result) as Major League, one of my favorite sports movies of all time.
Both great movies and have a common idea (owner does not want what is best for the team), different (and more interesting) motivations in Ted Lasso, but the idea of a football coach coaching soccer is silly but ends up working so well. I do love the darts speech. I have watched it quite a few times.

What makes both good is that they both like their characters. What makes Ted Lasso the best show of 2020 is that the writers and actors always take the hard choice, rather than the easy one. It makes it so one cannot predict everything that happens.
 
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Look man just because you and a few others here don't like the content doesn't mean Apple isn't getting paid subscribers. Where is your proof on this? Seems to be that Apple One is taking off very well. Furthermore Apple extended the AppleTV Plus free trial for over a year in good faith due to COVID since production had to be shut down. The problem with you a few others here is you seem to think Macrumors forum members are the majority of Apple's customers (which is hardly true) and if the people here here don't like Apple's stuff then nobody else does. News for you, people who frequent forums with opinions are the smallest of Apple's customer base.
Nobody needs proof, I guarantee you 85% of their subscribers are on a free trial still since Apple hands it out like water. Hell, go on the Apple TV+ Reddit site and people are handing out free trial codes if people ask but they are definitely not getting a bunch of paid subscribers right now They arent extending subs due to good will. They are extending them because its still better to have, appearance wise at least, a lot of subscribers then it would be to have everyone cancelling due to free trials running out.
 
As is typical MR fashion.....to condemn Apple's product before giving it a chance saying it will fail or remain niche. And people said the iPod would fail, the iPad would fail, the iPhone would fail, the Apple Watch would fail. At this point I'd say Apple knows what they are doing and the MR crowd against Apple doesn't have a clue.

Thanks for making a point. In typical MR fashion praise Apple at all costs.
Hmmm... @Td1970 I am not sure we are reading the same post of @Maconplasma’s. Where is he “praising Apple at all costs”? I see him responding to something that annoys many people who have actually tried TV+, and that is repeating false statements based on comments made before the service even launched.

So when someone says all the content is patriotic American shows and movies, it is clear they have not watch the service. I do not care at all if people gave it a real chance and did not like it, every show is not going to appeal to everyone. That is why I ask what shows someone has watched when they post that they do not like it. I want understand what they watched, so I and others can get a sense of what they expect.

You have made it clear that you primarily watch DIY shows. Not really surprising that you do not like any of the narrative content on TV+. What is interesting is that you keep repeating the ’I watched it and do not like it’ sentiment without repeating that your preferred content is not something that they produce.
 
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