While I don't agree with the lawsuit...Apple has been falling off in the Quality Control department. Lint was never a problem with older iPhones, and these things are meant to go inside of pockets full of...
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Apple Faces Class Action Lawsuit Over Erroneous 'This Accessory May Not Be Supported' Alerts
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Thats why apple will develop a phone without any ports. and then people will cry as they lose their ports
People here are calling this nonsensical, all over the use of 'cheap cables.' But the very same thing happened to me when docking an iPod into an iHome...a decidedly 'not cheap' item.
Except in the situation of a degraded battery this happened well under the suggested threshold. The battery peak could not be achieved during app ramp or doing nothing, thus power was reduced. Apple outlined reasons that performance may be hampered. Many of the reasons on the list don't constitute a full load on a battery unit.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387
If general iOS use outside of an app environment is so bad that it causes lag and micro-stuttering to a profound effect, and the general quality of the phone's basic properties to go down, then that isn't just an issue when pushing the battery to its load limit. That's a poorly designed system.
At least half of my MFi certified charging cables have stopped working because of this issue, but for me it happened with one of the mid/late 2018 iOS updates. Only my Apple and Anka cables are still able to charge our iOS devices.
I buy non-Apple but MFi certified/approved cables when I need extra long/short/tough cables.
I wrote to Amazon and they immediately gave me a no-questions-asked refund for the Amazon branded cable I had bought 2 years prior. So, I think Amazon are aware of this issue.
I buy non-Apple but MFi certified/approved cables when I need extra long/short/tough cables.
I wrote to Amazon and they immediately gave me a no-questions-asked refund for the Amazon branded cable I had bought 2 years prior. So, I think Amazon are aware of this issue.
Basically can't get away from the physics of li-ion batteries. Android justs shuts down when the battery can't support the load. At least Apple has an option.
Oh, you mean how iPhones also shut off due to bad battery during that period, too? What you're stating may have been true on older Android phones, but I can assure you any flagship phone will simply waste away their battery and then shut down at 5-10% when it becomes critical for the phone to undergo a complete and proper shutdown.
My original post was based on Apple's contempt to lie and the possibility of lying about more things. You rebutted, you were corrected, and now you make another sweeping non-sequitur statement. What the hell do Androids have to do with Apple's vehement lying for years and then admitting they lied? Apple's option was a garbage choice instead of responding to the problem head on. Android does that? Take it a repair center, you get a new OEM battery or if you can't afford it you can pick out a quality third party one. The repair for a sealed phone takes less than 2 hours. It doesn't cost as much as what Apple charges. I can't speak for other brands, but Samsung repair centers are a plenty here in California. They use genuine parts, trained professionals, etc.
Apple's move was garbage. You know it. Everyone knows it. Stop sugarcoating their mistake. They ****ed up. But hey, enjoy micro stutters on your XS Max in a year.
No, it was a good move, and one that should be copied by Android. Manage the power when the battery can't produce the juice that's needed.
As far as Apple "lying", they could have handled it better, but, imo, it was not to sell more phones. (There is always something, every company could handle better).
I'm basically ignoring the rant and discussing why such a functionality might be useful, which is what I did before. No correction necessary.
I frankly don't care, that apple "lied" to use your word. I care about other things in the digital life.
What the hell Androids have to do with it, is the commonality of using technology on two platforms that do the same thing. Buckle under age and cold conditions.
I got two batteries for free, one in an iphone 6s and one in an iphone 7. All I had to do was wait...so whatever Apple did...I'm a happy camper.
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I have all my original chargers and cables, some going back to 2010. I don't baby them, but I do treat them with care. I have never had an issue with the "non-supported" message.
I did buy one of those 18 non-certified cables. At some point I was getting the error message, but the phone charged anyway. At some point the error messages stopped completely. My spouse uses non-certified cables and her phone never gets an error message.
Phone OEMs can already do this by modifying Android. As far as I know, some of my old GS phones never shut down immediately, instead the battery drained and drained until they reached a critical point and required a shut down.
Google'ing around, the typical HTC and LG have not introduced this to their phones through software layer or hardware. Though that's typical. I'd look for the Chinese and see what they do with their toys.
So you complain about a rant with a rant that's going off on random tripe again. No wonder you were banished from another part of the site.
There was no complaint here. I was stating my opinion and discussing this (off-topic) topic. People react differently to different things. This was not a hot-button topic for me. YMMV.
As far as being "banished", the facts are incorrect. Full access prevails.
Apple has done a great job on cultizing its product. People will jump to their defense passionately.
For someone who has used everything from Silicon Graphics, Amigas, Windows 98 until now, I have zero loyalty to apple, microsoft, linux, unix.
Apple has been very naughty. And people are cultized to support them with raging words and electrified ignorance.
Apple is a company, a business, an empire. There are human beings running the company and some of them are unclean.
Plastic will outlive humans on this earth. There is absolutely no reason for someone to need to buy a new phone. Most pretend they are concerned about the environment and the plight of the poor, while desperately defending a corporation who rapes clean land to mine minerals to put into products. So everyone is duped into buying a new phone and new things thinking they need it. Good job Apple. Great sales job or better term is manipulation.
I have android through linux. I do not buy a new phone, computer, shoes. I care for the products I buy as if they are new.
I still run my 6 PowerPCs from 2006, it works perfectly, except Apple said screw you. I have 2 iphone 3G and Apple said screw you. I have 2 apple ipad minis and apple said screw you. Ok I can deal with 10's of thousands of dollars of equipment. I can still use it. Apple did not brick the PowerPC or the Iphone 3G,
but they did brick the iPad minis and now are going for my iphone 5-s and my iphone 6 iforgotthemodelbutitlookslikethe5sandiamnotbrainwashedintobrands.
I have a laptop running windows 7 from 2009 runs perfectly, still getting updates, it is not bricked
I have a tower running windows 7 from 2011 runs perfectly, still getting updates, it is not bricked.
I have a laptop running windows 10 from 2018 and runs great, and I gutted it from bloatware.
I have a workstation running windows 2017 and runs great, and I gutted that one too.
The 6 powerPC from 2006 apple said sorry.
People are duped. Imagine if a computer company told Airbus or Boeing I am sorry but if you plug that in with the cable we sold you you are going to have to buy a new one. They would go balistic and apple would replace the cables.
My AUTHENTIC 100% APPLE MANUFACTURED IPHONE-IPAD CABLES ARE FAILING.
So yes there should be a lawsuit. Yes their should.
There is no dust in the lightning connector.
Yes when you leave your mind open to manipulation you will support a CORPORATION to open your bank account because of your loyalty.
Big deal, its just 30 bucks right? For a new cable? Ummm...I spent HOW MUCH on the phone itself.
For someone who has used everything from Silicon Graphics, Amigas, Windows 98 until now, I have zero loyalty to apple, microsoft, linux, unix.
Apple has been very naughty. And people are cultized to support them with raging words and electrified ignorance.
Apple is a company, a business, an empire. There are human beings running the company and some of them are unclean.
Plastic will outlive humans on this earth. There is absolutely no reason for someone to need to buy a new phone. Most pretend they are concerned about the environment and the plight of the poor, while desperately defending a corporation who rapes clean land to mine minerals to put into products. So everyone is duped into buying a new phone and new things thinking they need it. Good job Apple. Great sales job or better term is manipulation.
I have android through linux. I do not buy a new phone, computer, shoes. I care for the products I buy as if they are new.
I still run my 6 PowerPCs from 2006, it works perfectly, except Apple said screw you. I have 2 iphone 3G and Apple said screw you. I have 2 apple ipad minis and apple said screw you. Ok I can deal with 10's of thousands of dollars of equipment. I can still use it. Apple did not brick the PowerPC or the Iphone 3G,
but they did brick the iPad minis and now are going for my iphone 5-s and my iphone 6 iforgotthemodelbutitlookslikethe5sandiamnotbrainwashedintobrands.
I have a laptop running windows 7 from 2009 runs perfectly, still getting updates, it is not bricked
I have a tower running windows 7 from 2011 runs perfectly, still getting updates, it is not bricked.
I have a laptop running windows 10 from 2018 and runs great, and I gutted it from bloatware.
I have a workstation running windows 2017 and runs great, and I gutted that one too.
The 6 powerPC from 2006 apple said sorry.
People are duped. Imagine if a computer company told Airbus or Boeing I am sorry but if you plug that in with the cable we sold you you are going to have to buy a new one. They would go balistic and apple would replace the cables.
My AUTHENTIC 100% APPLE MANUFACTURED IPHONE-IPAD CABLES ARE FAILING.
So yes there should be a lawsuit. Yes their should.
There is no dust in the lightning connector.
Yes when you leave your mind open to manipulation you will support a CORPORATION to open your bank account because of your loyalty.
Big deal, its just 30 bucks right? For a new cable? Ummm...I spent HOW MUCH on the phone itself.
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Yeah, tried all that. (As demonstrated to me once by an Apple Store employee, the iPhone SIM-card tool is perfectly sized for cleaning out the lightning port).
My chief suspect is actually the Anker USB-C adapter that I use. But of course, it works 100% reliably with every other device. And even every other iOS device except my X. And even on my X it works ~95% of the time.
If Apple didn't make the *********, most over-priced cables on the planet they'd probably get more sympathy from me. I have a greater risk of fire from their easily-frayed cables (after only several months of use) than the sturdier, better quality and more reasonably-priced 3rd party ones.
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I still have the original cables from our iphone 4 and ipad 2. I guess some people treat them more gently than other people.
Something tells me that this will go no where. After all they didn’t block non MFi products and they didn’t say it won’t work as a way to force folks to buy more expensive stuff. They just say ‘may not’ which is just covering their asses so folks don’t assume that something not working is a fault of the device and not potentially the cable.
If someone was confused about what MAY means that’s on them
If someone was confused about what MAY means that’s on them
Apple product development cycle; make product expensive so people take care of it so you can make the product thinner so you can raise the price so people take care of it so you can make it thinner so you can raise the price...
End result is $1k tablets that people can't even put in backpacks
My own litmus test is what I get for my money.
I wouldn’t have any issues with a tablet in my back pack as I recognize it’s an electronic device and should be treated with some care.
And some people have kids. Not everyone can be expected treat their cables like they’re made of gold, and generally speaking, Apple is the outlier in forcing that expectation on their end users.
And for those people who have kids I wouldn’t give them fine China to eat off either. Is Apple the outlier I can’t say as I have had Mfi cables stop working.