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Apple needs China more than China needs Apple. This is a FACT! There is no where else Apple can go where you have 500,000 employees, let me say that again, 500,000 employees, crammed up against one another sleeping, eating, working, sleeping, eating, working....all in one sardine can. Yes Apple, you will bow down to your own greed. China gives you the ability to maximize profits, this one is gonna cost you in the short run. But don't worry, you'll find a way to get that money back. And I know for sure you will not leave China. Guaranteed. You need China a whole lot more than they need you. Corporations are lined up to no end to get into China more than your customers are lined up to get your iproducts. Anyone who honestly thinks Apple can push for their own way in China are sadly mistaken. The Chinese Govt runs China and it's corporations. They are the type of govt that will kick you in the face and then tell you to your bleeding face that they didn't just kick you and demand you to believe it. Good luck Apple.
 
Of all the nerve. I say pull the plug on selling anything to the chinese. The name iPad was Apple's first and always will be.:mad:
Yeah sure. Go ahead Apple. I dare you. I ****ing triple dare you to pull the plug on selling any apple related products to China.

Unless those apple investors and board of directors want to go mental, go ahead. Eh? Go ahead.
 
Then millions of Chinese are at risk of starving. Because like it or not, China needs tech companies hiring places like Foxconn. If they try to put the screws on Apple over this, it could fall back on them hard and ripple to every US tech company that hires Foxconn etc to do their assembly.

This could be just the thing to get Apple etc to pay the price to move their business to another country. Either by staying with Foxconn's not Chinese factories or moving to something else. Perhaps banning together to build their own. Heck a combined tech lobby could perhaps get the US to drop all kinds of taxes etc in return for a group of factories that would hire welfare receivers to so this piece work for 8 hours a day. Given that welfare reformers want to make getting a job of any kind a requirement to stay on welfare for anything more than a few months, even that lobby could jump in. There could also be movements to allow temp visas for immigrant workers to come for a few months to also work (especially before big launches) etc.

China simply can't risk that. They need these jobs for their people too much

I hate to say it but Apple needs Foxconn more than Foxconn needs Apple.

Foxconn supply a lot of the crap that we all (and I include non Apple users) buy
 
Call it the app pad or something. Maybe even a symbol of an eye and pad beside it.


I really hope this company does not end up getting 1.6 billion out of Apple, simply because they have a dodgy judicial system.


Its a huge shame Apple could not send all their manufacturing to Taiwan.
 
I see whole bunch of apple defense force needs to learn what exactly is happening in the business world.

Apple needs Foxconn like rats need scraps of food to survive. There is a reason why apple was so hyped to set up shops all over china. It's because they are cheap. CHEAP. No countries around the world will work for how much those poor chinese are getting paid.
 
Maybe the Apple legal team should have paid more attention to this instead of filing all the trivial lawsuits. Or maybe Steve should have paid more attention to this than worrying about destroying Android. Apple is a shell of it's current self without lots of Chinese cooperation.
 
Oh the irony. Apple goes to China to take full advantage of China's lack of adherence to labor laws and devastating track record of human rights violations. And not to mention taking full advantage of the sub $1/hr wages. They know full well China doesn't care about it's people. Apple know full well they can tell the press how much they emphasize how they demand their supply chain to treat their workers fairly all the while knowing full well what kind of Government runs China. Now China comes back and demands over a billion dollars to use the iPad name. Poetic justice.

Let's get one thing straight. Apple didn't go to China with all those jobs for the betterment of the people of China. They went their for one thing and one thing only, fattening their own pockets. Karma's a Beezatch.

I see whole bunch of apple defense force needs to learn what exactly is happening in the business world.

Apple needs Foxconn like rats need scraps of food to survive. There is a reason why apple was so hyped to set up shops all over china. It's because they are cheap. CHEAP. No countries around the world will work for how much those poor chinese are getting paid.

Cheap labors wasn't the primary reason for the move of production to China.

Lack of skilled workers and engineers in sufficient quantities need for the high volume demand for Apples products.

Also easy access to the supply chain as most parts are already located in Asia/China.
 
Cheap labors wasn't the primary reason for the move of production to China.
It was one of the deciding factor. Don't deny it.

Also easy access to the supply chain as most parts are already located in Asia/China.
Exactly, they were already using cheap products made in china as a reliable parts for iphone/ipod/ipad.
 
It was one of the deciding factor. Don't deny it

Sorry, its my opinion. Don't really care if you agree with me or not.

Exactly, they were already using cheap products made in china as a reliable parts for iphone/ipod/ipad.

I said easy access. Shipping everything from China to America is more involved. It far easier to ship the final product. Any modifications or special orders have to be returned or reshipped back. Everything can be delivered interim between factories often within hours instead of days or weeks.
 
I just love how there is not a single blind loyalist that can even remotely believe that China needs Apple more than Apple needs China. You would have to be seriously OD'ing on the Kool Aid to honestly believe the opposite. Hey Apple, tread softly, because China owns you. This is true. So, Anyone here truly believe Apple can just pull out of China? NOPE! Not an effing chance. What goes around, comes around. Luv it!
 
China wants an apology? I'm in stitches..

No a company that is based in China wants an apology.

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Of all the nerve. I say pull the plug on selling anything to the chinese. The name iPad was Apple's first and always will be.:mad:

Actually it wasn't. Thats why apple bought it in the first place for 55,000.

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this is nothing more than extortion from the Chinese government.... this is how they treat foreigners in Asia...now as far as Apple needing China for manufacturing that remains to be seen... one plant in Brazil will not be able to carry the load alone...this amounts to a paid indulgence...probably retaliation for the US government taxing chinese shrimp or something

Why are you people so stupid. One government is NOT the chinese government or the chinese people. Please for the love of god stop making americans look stupid!

Enough of these bizarre xenophobic conspiracy theories. This company is a reflection of China just like McDonalds is a representation of America.
 
Apple should change the name in China of the iPad....

fuPad?

Changing the name wouldn't necessarily let them off the hook for fines associated with trademark violation. But it could allow Apple to continue selling the product in China.

They did something similar here in Japan. "Airport" is a registered trademark for wireless routers built by another company. (I had one of their routers several years ago.) So, in Japan, Apple calls its wireless technology "Air Mac."
 
Apple loves lawsuits game. They should embrace this kind of game from china, not hating it.
 
Apple needs China more than China needs Apple. This is a FACT! There is no where else Apple can go where you have 500,000 employees, let me say that again, 500,000 employees, crammed up against one another sleeping, eating, working, sleeping, eating, working....all in one sardine can. Yes Apple, you will bow down to your own greed. China gives you the ability to maximize profits, this one is gonna cost you in the short run. But don't worry, you'll find a way to get that money back. And I know for sure you will not leave China. Guaranteed. You need China a whole lot more than they need you. Corporations are lined up to no end to get into China more than your customers are lined up to get your iproducts. Anyone who honestly thinks Apple can push for their own way in China are sadly mistaken. The Chinese Govt runs China and it's corporations. They are the type of govt that will kick you in the face and then tell you to your bleeding face that they didn't just kick you and demand you to believe it. Good luck Apple.


There's always india. conditions there are no better. Labor is just as cheap.
 
There's always india. conditions there are no better. Labor is just as cheap.

Hmmm....how many things do you buy that have Made In India on the back? That's right ZERO. And there's a very good reason for that. If India was a good place for manufacturing, corporations would already be there. For as long as Apple stays as greedy as it is, China owns Apple, and nothing Apple can do about it. This is a fact.
 
Hmmm....how many things do you buy that have Made In India on the back? That's right ZERO. And there's a very good reason for that. If India was a good place for manufacturing, corporations would already be there. For as long as Apple stays as greedy as it is, China owns Apple, and nothing Apple can do about it. This is a fact.

If you want your iPad 3 or iPhone 5 on time, you have no reason to complain about corporate greed.

You make your posts on this forum from Apple gear, be it a Mac or iDevice, you support Apple and their "greed."
 
it's payback...

I guarantee you this is payback for Apple getting ready to shift production to Brazil. It will go away if they decide not to fire up the line in Brazil.
 
I think only disadvantage here is that the courts are notoriously corrupt in China. Proview can pay off the judge and share the profits. They've been known to put guilty sentences without trial. They aren't held accountable. Apple on the other hand can't twitch without the global press writing about it.

If Apple pulls the iPad out of China, the chinese will still get their hands on it just as they did years before the official launch. They was a case where a whole group of housewives were arrested for smuggling suitcases full of iPads into China. Downside would be that Apple isn't able to provide the purchasing experience they've been known for to the Chinese customers.

I understand if they got the name, then yeah settle, but 1.6billion? you couldn't pull a number that big out of your own ass if you tried. This is just stupidity and asking for a fight.

Yes I am chinese


I hate to say it but Apple needs Foxconn more than Foxconn needs Apple.

Foxconn supply a lot of the crap that we all (and I include non Apple users) buy

That's like saying Apple doesn't need us customers. our money > Apple > Foxconn. Yes Foxconn makes other stuff for other brands, how come they don't have $100 billion sitting in the bank? BTW I should add Foxconn is Taiwanese not Chinese.

"multibillion dollar supplier needed, raise hand if keen" Yeah I'm sure you'll hear crickets with a offer like that.
 
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