Exactly, This has been so blown out of proportion it's insane! I would argue that the throttling is actually improving the life of the phone since the phone can continue to operate at it's primary mission without shutdowns for a longer period before the battery absolutely needs to be swapped. Everything continues to work, but just gets a little slower. Replacing the battery fixes the issue until that battery reaches EOL. Batteries are consumable items, period. The only misstep I think Apple made was not being up front about the condition of the battery and the throttling. They should have had this monitoring from the beginning if throttling was being introduced. At a minimum, the store employees should have been trained for this situation. I can see how they would try to sell a new phone if the customer complains of slowness and they don't know the true cause. I mean, if you were the store employee and someone came in with an old computer and said it was too slow, and you didn't find anything wrong with it (since the throttling wasn't communicated), it really seems like getting a new phone that's faster is the best option. Now that the monitoring is there, there is no excuse to keep pushing this topic.
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Exactly, This has been so blown out of proportion it's insane! I would argue that the throttling is actually improving the life of the phone since the phone can continue to operate at it's primary mission without shutdowns for a longer period before the battery absolutely needs to be swapped. Everything continues to work, but just gets a little slower. Replacing the battery fixes the issue until that battery reaches EOL. Batteries are consumable items, period. The only misstep I think Apple made was not being up front about the condition of the battery and the throttling. They should have had this monitoring from the beginning if throttling was being introduced. At a minimum, the store employees should have been trained for this situation. I can see how they would try to sell a new phone if the customer complains of slowness and they don't know the true cause. I mean, if you were the store employee and someone came in with an old computer and said it was too slow, and you didn't find anything wrong with it (since the throttling wasn't communicated), it really seems like getting a new phone that's faster is the best option. Now that the monitoring is there, there is no excuse to keep pushing this topic.
Bad choice by Apple. It should have Been a warning that your battery was bad and needed to be replaced. In my experience even when offering to pay the full price for a battery replacement Apple would tell you with the batteries fine And refuse to replace it
buying a new iPhone as soon as one comes out is not being part of the elite it's being a sucker.
There is one additional reason, power draw from the CPU. One way to increase performance is to clock the CPU higher, which requires more power. Since people want faster phones, the newer CPU's have become more power hungry to keep being faster. Then they hit the threshold where an older still kind of OK battery wasn't able to sustain the voltage needed to keep the processor running at peak performance. Throttle the processor a little and then everything is fine and dandy again until the battery gets more worn down. At some point, the battery will need to be replaced anyhow if you want to keep using the device. But throttling helped extend that life at the cost of performance. There were only two options, either keep the CPU running at full tilt and have the phone shut off frequently when working hard, or throttle it a little bit and keep things running. Either case can result in someone going to the store and being told it's time to replace the battery or get a new phone. Between those two options, I think Apple made the right choice. They only should have notified the user that the battery was under performing and the phone should be serviced to maintain maximum performance.
This issue still has not been fully resolved by apple. The option to "disable" the power management feature doesn't help much. No matter what I do, it always enables itself for some reason or another.
When the feature underclocks my iPhone 6, the phone becomes completely useless. Its too slow to even do texting, every key press has major input lag, facebook wont even run. If I disable it, everything suddenly works perfect again for a while, until randomly a day or so later it enables itself again.
I would rather have random shutdowns than have to ever attempt to use the phone slowed down to this extent.
When the feature underclocks my iPhone 6, the phone becomes completely useless. Its too slow to even do texting, every key press has major input lag, facebook wont even run. If I disable it, everything suddenly works perfect again for a while, until randomly a day or so later it enables itself again.
I would rather have random shutdowns than have to ever attempt to use the phone slowed down to this extent.
Do you have personal experience with this? Or is this just an attempt at a clever rebuttal?
Whatever your answer, you seem to be saying that I, in order to protect my own ass, should favor the abridgment of the rights of all, to petition for redress of grievances? That seems a very selfish principle to live on.
Thomas Jefferson wrote, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." It doesn't matter who said it, actually, or what they did - what matters is whether it is true. And so far as I can tell, the truth is that we live in an imperfect world no matter what we choose - but we are far better off attending to an excess of liberty (whatever injuries and pitfalls that may bring), than submitting ourselves to the alternative.
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother writing these thoughtful replies. No one seems to give much regard to logic and debate anymore.
I forget what the name for it is, but there's a mental disorder that your attitude reminds me of. People afflicted with it, need "fresh" items regularly to satisfy their anxiety. They shop for things they never open, eat or wear. They instantly bore and replace things within days.
That is the presumed difference with the iPhone 6 - it had a faster, more power-hungry processor vs previous generation designs. I'm sure Apple was aware of the implications but based on the outcome they clearly didn't account for it fully and properly. They learned from their mistake in subsequent generations since the iPhone 7 and beyond didn't have the same systemic issue.
what's even more pathetic are the ones buying new models every year - going through them like candy, never satisfied
Do you have personal experience with this? Or is this just an attempt at a clever rebuttal?
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother writing these thoughtful replies. No one seems to give much regard to logic and debate anymore.
Yes, I do have personal experience. Frivolous lawsuits (and not all lawsuits are frivolous) are not an exercise in liberty or logic. FYI, I don't think these lawsuits against Apple are frivolous at all... they are holding the big corporate gorilla accountable to what was/is an act of deception. Maybe we can share some common sentiment on this?
no one is saying buy a new one every year.
If you’re currently rocking and iPhone 6 or 7 it’s time to upgrade. If your iPhone is older
Your comment demonstrates your disorder. Your assumption and assessment is completely wrong. Do not trust your gut instinct.
No because it is true for every device in the world. Battery lost power.
Apple just makes your device works anyway
You mean like the above.
There are 60 lawsuits and Apple has enough money to fight them all.
We will see if they win or lose and which ones. Although I’m sure Apple will appeal the lost law suits.
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The iPhone 7 will get iOS 13, so no need to upgrade for at least another year. If it is current enough for Apple, why not also for the customer?
Tesco, a UK Supermarket has its own MNVO called Tesco Mobile. They are offering the 6S on a 3 year contract for £14.99/month. This is a 32Gb device.https://www.tescomobile.com/shop/apple/iphone-6s
They are still selling the 5S on contract £10.99/month for 36 Months)
How many androids of that age are still being offered by the phone companies.
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Simple really. Use the same tools that were used to benchmark them in the first place.
If you've never understood why then I'll surmise that you're trying your hardest not to understand why. Post 4 will explain it for you.
Didn’t invent lithium batteries???? Honestly that statement is hilarious to me and I’m left wondering if it’s embarrassing to you.
They KNOW how often and how hard you use your phone. The diagnostic data tells them that.
The market has shown that people are using their phones more all the time.
They therefore WILL have predicted that a small battery would require more charge cycles and would wear out quicker.
They chose to see what they could get away with.
But failed.
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Apple was not honest. That’s the main issue, this would not have been such a PR circus if Apple would have made it clear that old batteries slow the phone down and a new battery will put performance back.
Apple is a business and it was in their best interest to keep it quite to spur upgrades. In my opinion.
Apple was not honest. That’s the main issue, this would not have been such a PR circus if Apple would have made it clear that old batteries slow the phone down and a new battery will put performance back.
Apple is a business and it was in their best interest to keep it quite to spur upgrades. In my opinion.