Better how? Weird camera button on the side? It’s effectively no faster than my 13 Pro tbh.What’s the point in getting an inferior phone ? iPhone 16 is a better product, even without AI.
I have both.
Better how? Weird camera button on the side? It’s effectively no faster than my 13 Pro tbh.What’s the point in getting an inferior phone ? iPhone 16 is a better product, even without AI.
This, or like I said people will get their $25 in 2035.My guess is that they'll take the Apple way out and offer 'X months free' to whatever subscription service they have.
It’s a broader symptom of a culture where personal responsibility takes a backseat to externalizing frustration through legal action or public outrage.This, or like I said people will get their $25 in 2035.
Either way, the people who assume they’re going to get full refunds or (a completely unserious thing I’ve seen here more than once) a free upgrade to the 17…
Yeah, keep dreaming.
You might get a $30 Apple gift card to buy yourself a nice AirTag.
In what ways that make a meaningful difference in life.What’s the point in getting an inferior phone ? iPhone 16 is a better product, even without AI.
This is a strawman argument, arguably a smart phone upgrade hasn’t made a meaningful difference in anyone’s life in at least the last decade, from any manufacturer.In what ways that make a meaningful difference in life.
Yes, me too. That’s why I want a refund.Just wait for it. The iPhone 16 series will work poorly or not at all with the new Siri. I already see it coming.
It’s a broader symptom of a culture where personal responsibility takes a backseat to externalizing frustration through legal action or public outrage.
Yes, me too. That’s why I want a refund.
Your response misrepresents what I said.False advertising has nothing to do with personal responsibility. Are you saying that companies should be able to claim/promise anything they want, whether or not it’s true? I’m really struggling to connect Apple promising and not delivering the improved Siri and other AI in iOS 18, after making it the main value proposition for the iPhone 16/Pro, and personal responsibility.
As someone else already said, it can be true to say that one shouldn’t purchase technology on the promise of something not yet available AND companies should not falsely promise or promote features that aren’t proven or guaranteed.
Your response misrepresents what I said.
Nowhere did I suggest that companies should be allowed to make false claims.
The discussion is about consumer expectations and decision-making. If someone purchases a product solely for a feature that is clearly stated as 'coming later,' that is a choice they made. Acknowledging that reality is not the same as excusing false advertising, those are separate issues.
If you have to twist my words to make your argument, that says more about your position than mine.
Especially when the actor is holding the phone and “using” the feature.If you show them to 12 normies it's hard to argue those ads don't set up expectation that those things will work more or less when you buy the phone
So you're saying the iPhone 16 doesn't have any meaningful upgrades over the iPhone 15. By now, if you had a real argument, you would've listed specific examples. Carry on.This is a strawman argument, arguably a smart phone upgrade hasn’t made a meaningful difference in anyone’s life in at least the last decade, from any manufacturer.
“Meaningful” is subjective.So you're saying the iPhone 16 doesn't have any meaningful upgrades over the iPhone 15. By now, if you had a real argument, you would've listed specific examples. Carry on.
In that case you shouldn’t be here commenting anyway… an iPhone 11 is still ok “in life”.In what ways that make a meaningful difference in life.
IT IS faster and it has a better camera (and bigger screen). The fact it doesn’t matter to you doesn’t change the fact it is a better product.Better how? Weird camera button on the side? It’s effectively no faster than my 13 Pro tbh.
I have both.
If anyone is serious about smartphones, those aren't meaningful changes.“Meaningful” is subjective.
It *does* have an extra 2 GB of RAM, a slightly faster chip, a 48 MP ultra-wide, 25W MagSafe charging instead of 15W, a bigger battery, better microphones, and the camera button.
If any of that is “meaningful” or not is completely up to the buyer.
I didn’t think so, that’s why I didn’t purchase one.
But also, if you are seriously trying to find “meaning” from a smartphone upgrade, or tablet upgrade, or computer upgrade, or anything like that, you’re probably looking in the wrong place.
These are tools to get things done, not objects of some higher importance.
I’d assume at least 95% of people who purchased the 16 did so because they had a 2+ year old phone and either it was feeling slow or broken and or their carrier is offering some deal.
The point being, what meaningful improvement(s) does the 16 offer over the 15?In that case you shouldn’t be here commenting anyway… an iPhone 11 is still ok “in life”.
This is just completely false. The vast majority of Apple Intelligence features are available and working as they should. Here is a list:I upgraded from a 14 Pro Max to a 16 Pro Max largely due to the Apple intelligence features that were being pushed about it. How amazing, how grande, etc everything would be if you upgraded. And here I am all this time later with a phone that’s really not much different at all as compared to my 14 Pro Max. I don’t like seeing Apple get beat up so often, the EU does a great job of that already, but Apple really does need to answer what’s going on here with all the advertising and hype, but absolutely nothing delivered.