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So what changes could Apple do without losing a single dollar?
So only the app developers should make money from running their digital assets on an iPhone? (Edit: you are saying apple should provide a totally no cost environment) That does not track.
Then let the free market reign and vote with their $$$.
Are you familiar with concept of "monopoly" and "extortion"?
Are you aware that AppStore is virtually nothing without, well, apps?
Apple needs developers and developers need Apple (in a way) but the relationship is very unbalanced...
I am. Neither or those two things are relevant here. At least according to the law and to the courts.
Have you called the police on Apple, because extortion?
In which context are you making some not so subtle opinion.
Are you aware that apple gave devs a low cost way to distribute their wares?
No it really isn’t.
Likely was never on the platform to begin with. MacRumors is a magnet for haters who comprise a substantial percentage of users here.
I wonder how long it will take for people to realize that the reason Apple is legally allowed to do all the things it does is because of intellectual property, and picking a fight with Apple isn't going to solve that fundamental issue...
It's amazing to me that Apple is still willing to allow Epic into their App store.
Excepting protected classes, I have the right to refuse service to anyone in my business.
Excepting protected classes, I have the right to refuse service to anyone in my business.
I have no objection to Apple charging 30% or whatever they wish to charge for their Appstore. I do object to however Apple not allowing users to download and install Apps from other platforms or directly from developers website. This restriction, call it a monopoly or whatever you wish to call, exist only in the world of IOS and nowhere else, be it in MacOS, Windows or Android.
So at this point why does Epic still want to be in Apple’s App Store? Epic was banned because it violated terms. Apple’s policies have been in place for over a decade. So name some other major developers who were in the App Store but left because of the terms and no longer support iOS.
So, you think Apple should be free to run their business how they see fit, but also not free to run their business how they see fit?
Right, and the millions of their customers who use an iPhone would be S.O.L. and they would lose untold millions of dollars in revenue. To quote a Klingon proverb “Revenge is a dish best served cold”. Daydreams are nice but never come true.
How many of those 300 million users do you think would remain on the platform if overnight they find only stock apple software is available on iOS?
It’s in the best interest of both apple and developers to find a compromise. Apple could make a better effort at that.
Tim Sweeny please shut the hell up already. I'm an iOS dev, I know the cost of running the App Store isn't remotely free. I'm fine with Apples cut because I get a lot for the money.
You are aware of this as a user. If you don't like it, you should move to another platform where it's possible. That's how a free market works.
Also most gaming platforms control who can install software even if you don't necessarily have to get it from one place.
Took the words out of my mouth. My customers pay external from Apple. They subscribe to a service and then simply use a username/password (and obviously other auth methods) on their phone to access. I pay Apple nothing but my fee per year as I sell nothing in the app. If I plan to allow customers to pay for my subscriptions within the app, then I expect anyone hosting to want a piece of that. An example used many times on these forums has been Costco. I can sell items on my website at retail, but I can't expect Costco to just provide my items. They buy and I have to sell to them at wholesale, so they can charge the same retail that I charge elsewhere, and make their own profit. It's the whole "capitalism" thing where we are all in this to make money. What we are seeing is a pi**ing match of who can make a few percent more than the other. I'm just thankful I have a safe and secure environment where people can trust my app and I can make a few $ out of it while enjoying my passion of development.
Apple inc. have to bring European Union features (iOS sideloading, third-party payments, or third-party browser) to United States of America with iOS 17.4 release OR remove commission fee from Its App Store sales. This can help Apple inc. comply with USA's App Store Court Order.
Epic themselves proved that a simple bare bones store (that didn’t even have a wish list function at the start) is not sustainable at 12%. Apple’s App Store is more than just a storefront.
Apple is also under legal pressure from the shareholders to do everything they legally can to protect and increase revenue. Shareholders would not be happy if their App Store revenue dropped by 25% overnight without even trying to protect it. This is why I despise public companies. The expectation of infinite growth and required legally to maximize every little penny you can get from customers is just ridiculous.
Apple is also under legal pressure from the shareholders to do everything they legally can to protect and increase revenue. Shareholders would not be happy if their App Store revenue dropped by 25% overnight without even trying to protect it. This is why I despise public companies. The expectation of infinite growth and required legally to maximize every little penny you can get from customers is just ridiculous.
Yes it really is. Apple can change the terms of the developer agreement at-will, anytime they want, without input from anyone. Developers have no such right. They can't even negotiate with Apple, unless they are a top-10 in the world App.
It's the same reason that EULAs are garbage. The end-user has no rights other than to accept/deny.
I'm not sure I follow...Apple does all sorts of things for less-than-cost: as I understand it, 85% of apps pay nothing to be hosted on the App store. Is that Apple squeezing every last cent from customers? Apple doesn't charge me for OS updates. Are they squeezing me?
Sweeney makes me laugh talking about a “scarescreen.” Apple has a legal imperative to distance itself from items bought outside their in-app payment ecosystem. The disclaimer is well within their rights.
Except that meddling thing called the market.