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Apple Failed to Release a Classical Music App in 2022
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Exactly!
Build a MUCH better Music App Apple. It feels generally old and messy, with or without the classical music.
I hope they have realized that, and that is what they are working on.
I'm trying it, but it's nowhere near what Primephonic could do.
And Apple killed it.
For instance, looked today for Giordano's Fedora - a rather obscure opera just being revived. Going to see it shortly but want to hear it prior. A straightforward search will only show you 3 of about 6 recordings. You have to otherwise know what to look for by researching first. And I'm still not confident I found all of them.
It's a shame, as sonically, AM is now very good.
By the way, I completely agree with people complaining about AM in general. But this does not negate the need for a separate classical app.
For this sick of the Apple Music app, Marvis Pro is amazing. And the iPad version works on the Mac.
But this is for general music. It does not solve the classical music issue.
For this sick of the Apple Music app, Marvis Pro is amazing. And the iPad version works on the Mac.
But this is for general music. It does not solve the classical music issue.
I think I couldn’t care less if Apple does a classical app for music. I haven’t useed the Apple music ecosystem in years now. I have Roon with Qobuz integration and that serves all my digital classical needs just fine. Not to mention my hifi’s digital network streamer works both as a Roon end point and Airplay 2 client. Guess which is higher quality (by a not so small margin)?
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The problem is you think the solution is a standalone application, it’s not. It’s fixing the existing data and adapting the existing applications, not spinning it off into another broken application that will be discontinued in 2 years because only 4 of you use it. If your metadata is borked then odds are the data set across other types of music are in a similar state. You need to fix the bigger problem and not the symptoms of it. I’ve seen plenty of similar situations in other music over the years. I’ve also seen albums that do not match the music in the original CD release. They just attached the songs and not the specific mix for that particular album.
The issues here are bigger than classical.
and a ceo that cares about users more than stockholders
Indeed, you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the challenges of offering music in a digital streaming format for this genre. The challenges are nothing new, and have been around for a long time. I didn't try Primephonic when it was around.
Apple may be struggling with the dichotomy of the problem. In other words, they want to provide a one-stop portal to enjoy streaming and downloading music, but they also have to come to terms with the complexity of what we call "classical" music, how to properly catalog it and make it searchable so that users can actually find the music they want without undue stress.
iTunes used to be basically an interface, a bridge between the Mac and the iPods of the time. Now it's a full-fledged app and service in its own right, valiantly trying to deliver digital music to the world synched between multiple devices and OS platforms, while somehow acting as a mechanism for maintaining personal music catalogs. Apple may have a lot of people working on this, but I think they are all struggling with the dichotomy, and even the contradictions present in trying to provide a unified music platform while still making it useful and searchable for enthusiasts of particular genres.
We'll see in the upcoming months how successful Apple is at tackling these issues...
The problem with metadata is that it's generally not up to Apple—it's up to the record companies, isn't it?
Ahhh, thank you. I was wondering why classical had to be a separate app.
Twenty years of experience in trying to make classical music fit Apple’s one-size-fits-all apps says the opposite. Fortissimo.
Buddy, believe me, I’ve tried.
Apple Music doesn't have the number of and types of ID3/Metadata tags classical music fans want. Apple Music doesn't have the kind of detailed search engine that classical music fans want.
So Apple would need to make changes to the Music app, or release a dedicated app.
Who knows where the disconnect is. Is it that side or is Apple ignoring extended information/ merging fields to make things easier? When you get to that scale all sorts of strange intermediaries show up to the process. Like they can get the rights to the music on a multi artist album and just use the matching originals to make the album instead of seeking the actual tracks. Things get real strange at scale. So who knows.
I think it will be released in the next couple of months.
I am curious to see why a classical app would be relevant when an integration to Apple Music would be more adequate
As a consumer, I don't particularly care if classical music is set up as its own app, or integrated more effectively into the current Apple Music app.
i just want it to be done, better than it is now.
At least Apple Music is lossless, according to what I've read. That is important.
i just want it to be done, better than it is now.
At least Apple Music is lossless, according to what I've read. That is important.
It's playing at the Met Saturday night, I might go as I'll be in NYC this weekend. I don't know much of Umberto Giordano's music but Giordano is my last name.. but no relation as far as I know. My dad came here from Italy in 1960, his dad was born in 1895 and killed by nazis in 1945. I know the movie Philadelphia featured Giordano's aria from another opera.
A dedicated app for 1 genre of music is idiotic for Apple and I'm not surprised this never got off the ground.
If anything, the Apple Music app making no significant improvements for another year is the more alarming milestone considering it's a branch of Apple's software suite that actually generates a lot of revenue.
If anything, the Apple Music app making no significant improvements for another year is the more alarming milestone considering it's a branch of Apple's software suite that actually generates a lot of revenue.